Barton Posted July 16, 2005 Author Share Posted July 16, 2005 Not just based on last nights start, but the Yankees should really inquire about the Mets TOM GLAVINE. This guy he just knows how to pitch, he can potentially give us a solid 6-7 innings each time he takes the mound. I wouldnt know what the Mets would want but I doubt they would really have the other team by the balls in negotiations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted July 16, 2005 Share Posted July 16, 2005 Not just based on last nights start, but the Yankees should really inquire about the Mets TOM GLAVINE. This guy he just knows how to pitch, he can potentially give us a solid 6-7 innings each time he takes the mound. I wouldnt know what the Mets would want but I doubt they would really have the other team by the balls in negotiations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted July 16, 2005 Share Posted July 16, 2005 Signing Leiter shows that every GM does have Cashman by the balls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted July 16, 2005 Share Posted July 16, 2005 Signing Leiter shows that every GM does have Cashman by the balls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted July 16, 2005 Share Posted July 16, 2005 Eric Duncan and a marginal pitching prospect. Comes down to whether Michael, Cashman and Tampa DUncan think projects as a superstar or just an average corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted July 16, 2005 Share Posted July 16, 2005 Eric Duncan and a marginal pitching prospect. Comes down to whether Michael, Cashman and Tampa DUncan think projects as a superstar or just an average corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted July 16, 2005 Share Posted July 16, 2005 Signing Leiter shows that every GM does have Cashman by the balls. or that Redding and May arent going to cut it desperate times call for desperate measures, I by no means have been pleased with Ca$hman over the last 5 years but he has no other choice than just acquire anybody who can start right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted July 16, 2005 Share Posted July 16, 2005 Signing Leiter shows that every GM does have Cashman by the balls. or that Redding and May arent going to cut it desperate times call for desperate measures, I by no means have been pleased with Ca$hman over the last 5 years but he has no other choice than just acquire anybody who can start right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted July 16, 2005 Author Share Posted July 16, 2005 Signing Leiter shows that every GM does have Cashman by the balls. ???? Getting Leiter was a gift from the baseball gods Bugg: No way do I give up eric duncan for glavine. that would be insane, I would flip out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted July 16, 2005 Author Share Posted July 16, 2005 Signing Leiter shows that every GM does have Cashman by the balls. ???? Getting Leiter was a gift from the baseball gods Bugg: No way do I give up eric duncan for glavine. that would be insane, I would flip out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomShane Posted July 16, 2005 Share Posted July 16, 2005 Signing Leiter is the ultimate desperation move. You Yankee fans have no idea how bad he is about to destroy your bullpen. No idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomShane Posted July 16, 2005 Share Posted July 16, 2005 Signing Leiter is the ultimate desperation move. You Yankee fans have no idea how bad he is about to destroy your bullpen. No idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted July 16, 2005 Author Share Posted July 16, 2005 Signing Leiter is the ultimate desperation move. You Yankee fans have no idea how bad he is about to destroy your bullpen. No idea. cmon. Leither gives us, at least a better chance to win than frickin darrell may and tim redding, who have thrown like 5 innings in 2 starts combined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted July 16, 2005 Author Share Posted July 16, 2005 Signing Leiter is the ultimate desperation move. You Yankee fans have no idea how bad he is about to destroy your bullpen. No idea. cmon. Leither gives us, at least a better chance to win than frickin darrell may and tim redding, who have thrown like 5 innings in 2 starts combined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted July 16, 2005 Share Posted July 16, 2005 or that Redding and May arent going to cut it desperate times call for desperate measures, I by no means have been pleased with Ca$hman over the last 5 years but he has no other choice than just acquire anybody who can start right now Agree. The hope was that the Yanks catch lightening in a bottle with one of these guys. May was strike one. Redding strike two. Leiter is the next "take a chance" guy as Cashman puts it. There are better pitchers available but everyone is holding the Yanks over the barrel in negotiations. Leiter is a low risk deal depending on who the player they give up is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted July 16, 2005 Share Posted July 16, 2005 or that Redding and May arent going to cut it desperate times call for desperate measures, I by no means have been pleased with Ca$hman over the last 5 years but he has no other choice than just acquire anybody who can start right now Agree. The hope was that the Yanks catch lightening in a bottle with one of these guys. May was strike one. Redding strike two. Leiter is the next "take a chance" guy as Cashman puts it. There are better pitchers available but everyone is holding the Yanks over the barrel in negotiations. Leiter is a low risk deal depending on who the player they give up is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetfanmack Posted July 16, 2005 Share Posted July 16, 2005 Signing Leiter is the ultimate desperation move. You Yankee fans have no idea how bad he is about to destroy your bullpen. No idea. How is it desperation when we're giving up virtually nothing to get him? Leiter costs a ton less than any other alternative. Of course, he's not as good, and he only throws 5-6 innings usually, but he's had success in his career every year except this year. All that matters is he's more trustworthy than May and Redding combined. If he throws 5 innings, that's more than May and Redding combined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetfanmack Posted July 16, 2005 Share Posted July 16, 2005 Signing Leiter is the ultimate desperation move. You Yankee fans have no idea how bad he is about to destroy your bullpen. No idea. How is it desperation when we're giving up virtually nothing to get him? Leiter costs a ton less than any other alternative. Of course, he's not as good, and he only throws 5-6 innings usually, but he's had success in his career every year except this year. All that matters is he's more trustworthy than May and Redding combined. If he throws 5 innings, that's more than May and Redding combined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted July 16, 2005 Share Posted July 16, 2005 Newsday said 400 grand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Jets & Ham Posted July 16, 2005 Share Posted July 16, 2005 Signing Leiter is the ultimate desperation move. You Yankee fans have no idea how bad he is about to destroy your bullpen. No idea. TS, Al Leiter or Tom Redding? Al Leiter or Darrell May? Al Leiter or Sean Henn? NUFF SAID Compared with these three jokers Al Leiter is Sandy Koufax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted July 16, 2005 Share Posted July 16, 2005 Signing Leiter is the ultimate desperation move. You Yankee fans have no idea how bad he is about to destroy your bullpen. No idea. Worse than the guy who took a shower during the first inning last night? I don't love Leiter, either, but, as others have noted, it's desperation time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomShane Posted July 16, 2005 Share Posted July 16, 2005 I agree, Leiter is better than May, Redding or Henn, but what you're missing is this: Leiter is good enough to stay in the rotation all year, but will only get you 5 innings. That is not a good thing. Redding, May and Henn were not going to get 10-15 starts to ruin the middle relief. Leiter will. Good luck with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted July 16, 2005 Share Posted July 16, 2005 If Brown, Pavano and Wang make it back, Mr. Leiter will become a long reliever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Jets & Ham Posted July 16, 2005 Share Posted July 16, 2005 If Brown, Pavano and Wang make it back, Mr. Leiter will become a long reliever. Forget Wang, Bob ... Wang is done for the season Leiter will be in the rotation the rest of the way BTW, don't be surprised if he does well ... he should get a ton of run support and he is not effected by NY Kevin Kennedy said his control has been a problem, but his velocity has been fine ... that's a good sign because it means he is not throwing like an old man ... can still crank it up there Kennedy really liked this addition for the Yankees ... I feel the same way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted July 16, 2005 Share Posted July 16, 2005 I just feel it should be mentioned that Leiter's ERA is 6.64 (And that's in the National League, you know, the "inferior one"). He has allowed 148 baserunners in 80 innings pitched. How exactly is he better than May or Redding? Because his name is Al Leiter and he USED to be good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted July 16, 2005 Share Posted July 16, 2005 I think Redding's ERA is infinity. The Yanks can beat 6.64 a good deal of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Jets & Ham Posted July 16, 2005 Share Posted July 16, 2005 I just feel it should be mentioned that Leiter's ERA is 6.64 (And that's in the National League, you know, the "inferior one"). He has allowed 148 baserunners in 80 innings pitched. How exactly is he better than May or Redding? Because his name is Al Leiter and he USED to be good? Redding's ERA was over 9 ... in the N.L. {Padres} And after last night his ERA is in the double digits Besides, Leiter is also a Pros Pro who is not effected by the spotlight ... THAT MATTERS when you pitch for the Yankees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted July 16, 2005 Share Posted July 16, 2005 Redding's ERA was over 9 ... in the N.L. {Padres} And after last night his ERA is in the double digits Besides, Leiter is also a Pros Pro who is not effected by the spotlight ... THAT MATTERS when you pitch for the Yankees But how well will Leiter react to pitching in a Yankee playoff game, rather than announcing it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Jets & Ham Posted July 16, 2005 Share Posted July 16, 2005 But how well will Leiter react to pitching in a Yankee playoff game, rather than announcing it? Won't faze him in the least .. he's pitched in a WS in NY, and pitched well .. also pitched in the WS for Toronto and Florida .. and I believe he's been a WS MVP? From that respect he's a GREAT FIT for the Yankees .. better than most .. that's why I like the move Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomShane Posted July 16, 2005 Share Posted July 16, 2005 Besides, Leiter is also a Pros Pro who is not effected by the spotlight ... THAT MATTERS when you pitch for the Yankees A pros pro? Leiter us gutty and isn't afraid of the NY media or spotlight AT ALL, so I agree from that standpoint, but he is also a divisive clubhouse lawyer and 'anonymous source' whiner when things don't go his way. If Cano boots one ground ball on him, expect to see him ripped by 'a team source' in every paper the next day. I hate this signing for you guys. I really do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted July 16, 2005 Share Posted July 16, 2005 The Yanks can beat 6.64 a good deal of the time. You sure about that? I seem to recall about 30 times this season when the Yankees couldn't beat 3.00. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted July 16, 2005 Author Share Posted July 16, 2005 Leiter was a gift from the baseball gods. He's a perfect fit for the Yankees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Jets & Ham Posted July 16, 2005 Share Posted July 16, 2005 You sure about that? I seem to recall about 30 times this season when the Yankees couldn't beat 3.00. That's true Troll, but since the Yankees turned it around they have been scoring more runs ... they've probably been averaging close to 7 runs a game over the past few weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Jets & Ham Posted July 16, 2005 Share Posted July 16, 2005 Leiter was a gift from the baseball gods. He's a perfect fit for the Yankees. I AGREE I have a GOOD FEELING about this move ... I think he will EXCEED expectations with the Yankees, and maybe by a wide margin I Just think it's a GREAT FIT ... and I also see this really lighting a fire in his belly ... if Al Leiter is anything, he's a ham ... he is going to love being back on the NY stage with a contender If I was a betting man, I would bet his ERA will be in the 4's with the Yankees ... two runs lower than his current ERA ... at least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted July 16, 2005 Share Posted July 16, 2005 That's true Troll, but since the Yankees turned it around they have been scoring more runs ... they've probably been averaging close to 7 runs a game over the past few weeks I agree with you on how the New York spotlight won't phase Leiter. My comment there was more of a crack on the Mets than it was on Leiter's ability to handle pressure. However, that WHIP of nearly 2 would scare the bejesus out of me if I were a Yankee fan. It just sounds like you guys are hoping that he comes back to New York and regains the old magic from his past, but this is a very different Al Leiter than he was in 1997. This is an Al Leiter that is in the later Kevin Brown stages of his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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