124 Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 Seriously? http://coldhardfootballfacts.com/Articles/11_2286_The_most_underrated_quarterbacks.html The 5 Most Underrated Quarterbacks Ever 5. Chad Pennington (2000-present) Can we give a little love to Herbie the Dentist? Jets fans have certainly never been sold on him. And a spate of injuries hasn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJ667 Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 based on his arguement i completely agree. look when he's healthy and the team around is quality the jets win. yeah ok he's not as good as he used to be. but he's a winner. and that's the name of the game that's the thing that gives you job security. WINNING. (last year not included) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 Is this the same ******* who wrote the 5 most overated? Pennington is not underated, he could have been a great QB and has one of the smartest football minds I've ever seen, but guess what he's had 2 major shoulder surgeries and he just doesn't have the arm strength to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 based on his arguement i completely agree. look when he's healthy and the team around is quality the jets win. yeah ok he's not as good as he used to be. but he's a winner. and that's the name of the game that's the thing that gives you job security. WINNING. (last year not included) Chad may be able to get the Jets 10 wins in the regular season but what does he do in the playoffs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-Mart28 Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 The guy makes it sound like Mangini was an idiot for benching him, like Penny had won every game up to that point, where fact is he was 1 and 6 when he was benched, many of those loses you can put right on the fact that Penny was the QB of the team. Guy needs a head check between this and the overrated list he made Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 This man obviously not watching the same game we're watching. That list is absolutely pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 Head coach Eric Mangini was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 Chad's a bit of a dodgy choice but like the other picks. Whoever compiled these lists has clearly done their research. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 Chad's a bit of a dodgy choice but like the other picks. Whoever compiled these lists has clearly done their research. Anyone can do what he did if they want to waist enough time on www.pro-football-reference.com, this guy is a clown. He put John ****ing Elway on his list of most overrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 Anyone can do what he did if they want to waist enough time on www.pro-football-reference.com, this guy is a clown. He put John ****ing Elway on his list of most overrated. And he gave his reasons for the selection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 And he gave his reasons for the selection. There's a lot more to it then some stats geek punching numbers. To call Elway one of the most overrated QB's of all time takes any credibility away from the rest of his list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 There's a lot more to it then some stats geek punching numbers. To call Elway one of the most overrated QB's of all time takes any credibility away from the rest of his list. I disagree completely. He points out that Elway was a great QB, but he's treated almost God-like which IMO is far too much. Yes, all in all he was a great QB, but he wasn't so 'great' for the early part of his career like a lot of other great ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-Mart28 Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 I disagree completely. He points out that Elway was a great QB, but he's treated almost God-like which IMO is far too much. Yes, all in all he was a great QB, but he wasn't so 'great' for the early part of his career like a lot of other great ones. Okay, so he didnt come one until his third year, neither did Manning or Aikman for that matter, all Qb's dont come on first season like Marino or Roethlisberger (a fact many forget when judging Clemens, but thats not here), it takes time to develop like Steve Young or Phil Simms. He still managed to get his team to 5 Super Bowls, more than any QB in NFL history and 2 wins, tying him with Bart Starr and Bob Griese for 3rd all time, and out up decent numbers both in the post season as well as the regular season. Elway is one of the all time greats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 Pennington had a better career passer rating than Tom Brady heading into the 2007 season. If that doesn't tell how useless that stat is then I don't know what will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 If that doesn't tell how useless that stat is then I don't know what will. Chad > Brady Accept it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 If that doesn't tell how useless that stat is then I don't know what will. Thats the point I stopped reading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 I'm a Clemens guy. I truly hope Clemens wins this QB competition. But................. I got to agree with Irish here, to a point. I just don't understand how any Jets fan could HATE Pennington. I honestly think that if Pennington didn't get cursed with all those injuries, he would be in the same conversation as Brady, and Manning. He's not, he did get injured. Namath is considered overrated because of his injuries. He never really performed well the second half of his career. Injuries The fact of the matter is the article is correct. Pennington wins games. It's time to move on. Hopefully it's Clemens time. I'm not going to throw Pennington under the bus because he was always hurt. When he was healthy, and on the field, they won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFLs StepChild Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 I'm a Clemens guy. I truly hope Clemens wins this QB competition. But................. I got to agree with Irish here, to a point. I just don't understand how any Jets fan could HATE Pennington. I honestly think that if Pennington didn't get cursed with all those injuries, he would be in the same conversation as Brady, and Manning. He's not, he did get injured. Namath is considered overrated because of his injuries. He never really performed well the second half of his career. Injuries The fact of the matter is the article is correct. Pennington wins games. It's time to move on. Hopefully it's Clemens time. I'm not going to throw Pennington under the bus because he was always hurt. When he was healthy, and on the field, they won. I'd agree with you completely here. But I do get the anger towards Pennington. Guys who look more at the bigger picture get the fact that there is no future in Pennington. They want to move on ASAP and use the time in front of us developing a better option. They see Pennington as a go nowhere option that would keep us in a holding pattern. I am squarely in this camp as well. It's not hate towards the guy, its frustration over not making any progress. Yeah if he would have continued on the path he was headed in 2002 man we could have been having the conversation about who was better him, Manning or Brady. Hell maybe we would have kept the cheaters out of a SB or 2 along the way. Who knows? But the point is that didn't happen, the guy can not stay healthy and breaks don every time he takes a hard shot. So the frustration of seeing this team rely on this guy and watching us go nowhere, get built up around a systematic, short passing game and look like we might do something only to be let down again and again is beyond frustrating. I'm not looking to throw him under the bus necessarily, if things would have worked out differently I'd be praising him, but injuries are a BIG part of this game, and great QBs are also durable. This guy is battered, broken and beyond repair. It was time to turn the page the instant he retore his shoulder. It's now just pathetic how much this team is clinging to a guy who is just not going to be there when you need him. I'd rather take some lumps with Clemens and if he sucks go 4-12 again and take a shot at getting a real franchise QB rather than go 8-8, 10-6 and a be guaranteed a quick exit from the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 I just don't understand how any Jets fan could HATE Pennington. Because a lot of Jets fans are ****ing idiots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 Because a lot of Jets fans are ****ing idiots. Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 Because a lot of Jets fans are ****ing idiots. absolutely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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