BigOrangeJetFan Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Mangini basically admitted that in Monday's press conference. Dial up the blitz big time. Confuse Seneca Wallace. Limit Jenkins' plays and play Pouha/DeVito more. If he is not near 100% vs Miami, Brown/Williams/Pennington will dominate time of possession. Longtime Jet fan here. In the '86 season, when Klecko/Gastineau/Mehl and 1/2 the defense was hurt, Bud Carson blitzed often. Here's where Sutton/Mangini need to step up and get creative, or the season ends in Seattle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMaynard Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 They need to do that anyway. I thought Jenkins wasn't his self the last few weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Mangini basically admitted that in Monday's press conference. Dial up the blitz big time. Confuse Seneca Wallace. Limit Jenkins' plays and play Pouha/DeVito more. If he is not near 100% vs Miami, Brown/Williams/Pennington will dominate time of possession. Longtime Jet fan here. In the '86 season, when Klecko/Gastineau/Mehl and 1/2 the defense was hurt, Bud Carson blitzed often. Here's where Sutton/Mangini need to step up and get creative, or the season ends in Seattle. Bud Carson !! Brings back found memories. Man do I ever wish HE was our DC. Great defensive coach IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 They need to do that anyway. I thought Jenkins wasn't his self the last few weeks. 100 % in agreement here D. I'm getting so sick of that friggin 3 man rush. Look what happened in Buffalo when they blitzed Elam on the game winning play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMaynard Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 100 % in agreement here D. I'm getting so sick of that friggin 3 man rush. Look what happened in Buffalo when they blitzed Elam on the game winning play. And look at what happened in the first half of the Arizona game when they blitzed Warner and shut him out. Interceptions, fumbles. Then in the second half they lay off and the Cardinals score a bunch of point. Duh. It is not like we fans are calling for blitzes hoping it might help. It has when they have had the guts to do it. Which should not be a shock. Their OLBers are built for pass rushing, not pass defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 And look at what happened in the first half of the Arizona game when they blitzed Warner and shut him out. Interceptions, fumbles. Then in the second half they lay off and the Cardinals score a bunch of point. Duh. It is not like we fans are calling for blitzes hoping it might help. It has when they have had the guts to do it. Which should not be a shock. Their OLBers are built for pass rushing, not pass defense. What's scary is that not only do we (the fans) see it, but the facrt is it just isn't working when they don't blitz. they get torn to shreds every time. it's not rocket science. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMaynard Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 What's scary is that not only do we (the fans) see it, but the facrt is it just isn't working when they don't blitz. they get torn to shreds every time. it's not rocket science. Which is a shame. I'll bet Mangini has some great ideas on the latest propulsion theories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Which is a shame. I'll bet Mangini has some great ideas on the latest propulsion theories. But EM is Mumbles disciple!!!! Surely he knows how to gameplan?...or was he fetching mumbles coffee at midnite!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 I would actually consider resting Jenkins altogether vs Seattle which means yes, I would sit him out. We should be able to beat them regardless and there's no point in making the playoffs if Jenkins isn't 100%. He's our most important player BY FAR and we need him if we're going to make an impact in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 I would actually consider resting Jenkins altogether vs Seattle which means yes, I would sit him out. We should be able to beat them regardless and there's no point in making the playoffs if Jenkins isn't 100%. He's our most important player BY FAR and we need him if we're going to make an impact in January. I can't believe i'm reading this!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishooked Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 I would actually consider resting Jenkins altogether vs Seattle which means yes, I would sit him out. We should be able to beat them regardless and there's no point in making the playoffs if Jenkins isn't 100%. He's our most important player BY FAR and we need him if we're going to make an impact in January. No way! But I think he's earned the right to sit out practices from now on though. You know how you rest your players? Beat the crap out of a scrub team early so you can send in your subs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 No way! But I think he's earned the right to sit out practices from now on though. You know how you rest your players? Beat the crap out of a scrub team early so you can send in your subs. The guy has simply not been effective over the last few games. No penetration, nothing. He's not been himself whether it's injury, fatigue or whatever. I'm not saying that resting him IS teh right thing to do, I'd just consider it. Whatever the Hell it takes to get Jenkins back to the way he was we need to do it because like I said before if we're going to the playoffs with him playing the way he has over the last 3 games we're better off not going at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 The offense can get Jenkins the rest he needs if they have a good game. Ball control plus enough of a lead that he can stand on the sideline late in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 The offense can get Jenkins the rest he needs if they have a good game. Ball control plus enough of a lead that he can stand on the sideline late in the game. Yeah, we need a blowout BADLY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 The offense can get Jenkins the rest he needs if they have a good game. Ball control plus enough of a lead that he can stand on the sideline late in the game. Exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 The last time he looked great (and the last time our run D did its job) was vs Tennessee. And in that game I'm pretty sure he layed on the ground with an injury and missed a few plays. Coincidence that he hasnt been the same since? I dunno. The dailynews says he is playing with a hip injury..... http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/2008/12/15/2008-12-15_big_kris_jenkins_is_getting_run_down.html Jenkins also is playing with a hip injury, which could be slowing him down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boynton Beach Jets Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 What's scary is that not only do we (the fans) see it, but the facrt is it just isn't working when they don't blitz. they get torn to shreds every time. it's not rocket science. BP great posts this is exactly what we were talking about at the game last Sunday. I agree this game is not rocket science and how the hell we do not make adjustments is beyond me. How we do not plan to just stop the slant pattern and get beat by something else is beyond me. Chad Pennington will kill us with slant patterns unless we show we can stop it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnus Malax Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 100 % in agreement here D. I'm getting so sick of that friggin 3 man rush. Look what happened in Buffalo when they blitzed Elam on the game winning play. 3 man rush vs max protect = 3 guys on Jenkins, 2 on Coleman and Ellis. Need to bring the pain. The lack of a blitz in the situation of not getting pressure must speak volumes about the secondary's ability to cover (or lack thereof) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 His hip "injury" could be slowing him down some, but I don't think he's hurt. I really don't. At least not seriously hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMaynard Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 The last time he looked great (and the last time our run D did its job) was vs Tennessee. And in that game I'm pretty sure he layed on the ground with an injury and missed a few plays. Coincidence that he hasnt been the same since? I dunno. The dailynews says he is playing with a hip injury..... Good point. I don't think it is a coincidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Wasn't he injured the past season or two? I would say if he was that means he hasn't had a "full" season under his belt in a while and playing with some "stingers" added with fatigue could play into his condition right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steveg Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 BP great posts this is exactly what we were talking about at the game last Sunday. I agree this game is not rocket science and how the hell we do not make adjustments is beyond me. How we do not plan to just stop the slant pattern and get beat by something else is beyond me. Chad Pennington will kill us with slant patterns unless we show we can stop it. "Chad Pennington will kill us with slant patterns unless we show we can stop it" No, no, no..Chad doesn't have the arm strength to zip it in on a slant pass.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.