SMC Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 F*cking idiot CTM. You lost us this game.You played great this game 80 and you would've won this if not for CTM. The fact that CTM called to lynch Lizzie after WomLoki ninja hammer speaks volumes of his stupid. Ape, Barm, Pac and Alannna were the worst scum team ever but CTM is the worst town power role ever. He single handily lost the game for town. This is glorious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 OK, need some thoughts from everyone on the balance of this game. I thought it ended up very well balanced, but since the mechanic was entirely new it was a best-effort type of balance (how I thought it could play out) that the fact that it basically came down to endgame played out. But I want comments so I can adjust if necessary on the rerunThe game was very balanced until you modkilled me because then it showed how stupid CTM really was for a townie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 Wombat versus CTM, Nolder, Lizzie, Nae and JF80 was a monumental mismatch ... in favor of Wombat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 OK, need some thoughts from everyone on the balance of this game. I thought it ended up very well balanced, but since the mechanic was entirely new it was a best-effort type of balance (how I thought it could play out) that the fact that it basically came down to endgame played out. But I want comments so I can adjust if necessary on the rerun The balance was perfect. F*cking stupid scum team + f*cking stupid CTM = fun win for a 3rd party player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 CTM really does ruin everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 OK, need some thoughts from everyone on the balance of this game. I thought it ended up very well balanced, but since the mechanic was entirely new it was a best-effort type of balance (how I thought it could play out) that the fact that it basically came down to endgame played out. But I want comments so I can adjust if necessary on the rerun Balanced imo. The lack of role awareness forced us to run the game on pure logic. The 1-30 mechanic made the redirection just random enough that it didn't have a massive impact. My favorite game this year. Well done and thank you!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 LOL great game Wombat!!! CTM, you're the stupidest mother****er on the planet. You have no right to call me blockhead or even Pac a moron, because only an idiot would switch to Nae in that situation. Seriously, all you had to do was lynch Seph then Wombat in that order to win. JUST AS I SAID. Holy crap,I can't believe CTM blew this. Fantastic setup Doggin and I'm really glad I got to play. This is perfect. We get a whole football season to say how stupid CTM is. Amazing I didn't switch to Nae you block head , Lizzie did ANd I was voting wwwombat today, I said lizzie because I was trying to avoid the NK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 You played great this game 80 and you would've won this if not for CTM. The fact that CTM called to lynch Lizzie after WomLoki ninja hammer speaks volumes of his stupid. Ape, Barm, Pac and Alannna were the worst scum team ever but CTM is the worst town power role ever. He single handily lost the game for town. This is glorious God you are dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 LOKI's PM: Wombat did not know it, but those numbers randomized all actions other than the mafia kill (unless the kill targeted Wombat in which case it would have been randomized too). Random.org determined what order the actions would be each night (Watcher, Tracker, Roleblock, Cop, Doc, Investigator, Vigilante) and the numbers determined where the actions and results would go. Each non-wombat player in the roster was assigned numbers from 1-30, and the first number in each pair identified the target while the second identified who would get the results from the action (if there were any to get). Once all kills were removed from the game (no scum, no vigilante) - Wombat had the option of killing or sending numbers and remaining immune to night actions How did 2 people die last night? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 Gg rodent. Keys to game: Killed ape early. Gave town a chance to clear out the rest of the trash no problem. Logic prevailed Why wombat won: Role randomization Players that stayed low gave him enough cover Ctm Gg all!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 Admittedly, I should have realized I was a Watcher based on my character, I just saw Heimdall as being a "Protector of the Realm". Plus when I targeted CTM on Night 2, I didn't get any kind of "So and so visited so and so" on that night. On N1 I was sent by Doggin a PM saying Pac was not town, but didn't trust it at the time because I thought it might have been coming from Loki. It wasn't until N6 that I got a watcher-type result but by then I just assumed that it was a re-directed action. I targeted CTM last night but it was of course too late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 I didn't switch to Nae you block head , Lizzie did ANd I was voting wwwombat today, I said lizzie because I was trying to avoid the NK You could have hammered Wombat when I put him at L-1 yesterday you c*ock! He was so completely transparent as Loki by then. Even me, a total idiot, told you that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 Balanced imo. The lack of role awareness forced us to run the game on pure logic. The 1-30 mechanic made the redirection just random enough that it didn't have a massive impact. My favorite game this year. Well done and thank you!!You made the game fun Lizzie. You were handicapped by a "smart" player in CTM being incredibly stupid in the end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 Admittedly, I should have realized I was a Watcher based on my character, I just saw Heimdall as being a "Protector of the Realm". Plus when I targeted CTM on Night 2, I didn't get any kind of "So and so visited so and so" on that night. On N1 I was sent by Doggin a PM saying Pac was not town, but didn't trust it at the time because I thought it might have been coming from Loki. It wasn't until N6 that I got a watcher-type result but by then I just assumed that it was a re-directed action. I targeted CTM last night but it was of course too late. 2 nights ago was the first night I got results, I knew i was cop then but was hoping to avoid the NK and since I had self targetted the only result i had was that I was town Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 You could have hammered Wombat when I put him at L-1 yesterday you c*ock! He was so completely transparent as Loki by then. Even me, a total idiot, told you that. I didn't want to rush it, wasn't expecting lizze to switch.. oh well I still don't understand why 2 people died last night? Wwwombat is who i was voting today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 You made the game fun Lizzie. You were handicapped by a "smart" player in CTM being incredibly stupid in the end Thx. You played a fantastic game. I didn't think the simplicity of the approach was legit. A lot of people crawl up their asses around here with complex analysis but I tip my hat Well done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 You made the game fun Lizzie. You were handicapped by a "smart" player in CTM being incredibly stupid in the end oh go away you blockhead, just be happy the mafia team was bad enough for your stupid color by numbers mafia to work so you can maintain the illusion of actually being good at this game. You are ridiculous with your hindsight being 20/20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 I still don't understand why 2 people died last night? Wwwombat is who i was voting today He had a single day or night "bonus" kill available to him, which he saved for endgame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 oh i see, he had an extra NK, and was able to over power the doc. whatever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 oh go away you blockhead, just be happy the mafia team was bad enough for your stupid color by numbers mafia to work so you can maintain the illusion of actually being good at this game. You are ridiculous with your hindsight being 20/20 I had the 20/20 foresight that Wombat was Loki and you didn't listen to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 I had the 20/20 foresight that Wombat was Loki and you didn't listen to me. yes, and the day before you knew it was seph.. good call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 Now Pac gets to say he had Loki "dead to rights" and the CTM vs. Pac feud gains extra steam. Perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 HAHAHAHA SUCK IT!!! I told you Wombat was Loki for over a week. Stupid asses. Worst town performance in a looooong time. Played paint by #'s mafia then was crippled when you had to make a decision utilizing skill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 yes, and the day before you knew it was seph.. good call I had Seph as my # 1 and Wombat as my # 2, and didn't change from that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 Now Pac gets to say he had Loki "dead to rights" and the CTM vs. Pac feud gains extra steam. Perfect. HAHAHAHA SUCK IT!!! I told you Wombat was Loki for over a week. Stupid asses. Worst town performance in a looooong time. Played paint by #'s mafia then was crippled when you had to make a decision utilizing skill. Haha. Called that sh*t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 Now Pac gets to say he had Loki "dead to rights" and the CTM vs. Pac feud gains extra steam. Perfect. You played awful.. basically did whatever SMC told you.. You were rightfully roasted in the scum thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 Haha. Called that sh*t. I had to find 1 player out of 13 using skill and it took me a day.. the lot of you couldn't do anything other than make a chart and cross of names of people who voted for who. it was pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 OK, need some thoughts from everyone on the balance of this game. I thought it ended up very well balanced, but since the mechanic was entirely new it was a best-effort type of balance (how I thought it could play out) that the fact that it basically came down to endgame played out. But I want comments so I can adjust if necessary on the rerun well remove loki from the game and it looks like a fairly standard powered up town vs powered up scum (outside of the backup cop/doc) So the longer loki lived the bigger disadvantage the town was under. We basically had no reliable intel on anyone all the way till end game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 You played awful.. basically did whatever SMC told you.. You were rightfully roasted in the scum thread. Oh, so I listened to other townies and lynched the correct people. Yep, I played awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 I had to find 1 player out of 13 using skill and it took me a day.. the lot of you couldn't do anything other than make a chart and cross of names of people who voted for who. it was pathetic. Because your scum team refused to bus each other and made the game easy. That doesn't mean town collectively played stupid. You're an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 Now Pac gets to say he had Loki "dead to rights" and the CTM vs. Pac feud gains extra steam. Perfect. There's no fued, Pac did a good job catching loki, but also played as scum terribly allowing SMC's paint by numbers mafia to work I allowed you and SMC to talk me into Seph And after re read, I became suspicious of Nae. I didn't think it was a big deal because i thought we had 1 more day. Live and learn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 Scum team doesn't get to call anyone stupid. Period. That was an historically bad scum performance. Especially given the fact that town did not know their roles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 Because your scum team refused to bus each other and made the game easy. That doesn't mean town collectively played stupid. You're an idiot. you should call SMC daddy.. he kept yelling for you to do something and you did it. It was scary bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 I had to find 1 player out of 13 using skill and it took me a day.. the lot of you couldn't do anything other than make a chart and cross of names of people who voted for who. it was pathetic. please, i found ape, barm and laine the normal way.. had them all by day 2, wiffed on you and wwwombat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 you should call SMC daddy.. he kept yelling for you to do something and you did it. It was scary bad. Again. That's what townies do. They listen to fellow townies. Unlike what the egomaniacs around here say, good town play doesn't come from 1 guy playing great. It comes from a bunch of players coming to an agreement. Had I listened to idiots like Lizzie who were saying he was Loki, we don't lynch scum in 4/5 days. Sore loser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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