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As of today, Larry Johnson projects to have 410 carries.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/misc/rsh.htm

Look a the leader board of all-time carries in a season; Johnson figures to at this rate tie the record, of 410, held by Jamal Anderson. Just to give you sense what's going on; these guys at the top are a wreck. You cannot do that to any back and think he'll just keep going. But when your coach is a stubborn tool...

Top single seasons since 1960

J Anderson 1998 410J Wilder 1984 407E Dickerson 1986 404E George 2000 403G Riggs 1985 397T Davis 1998 392R Williams 2003 392E Dickerson 1983 390B Foster 1992 390E Dickerson 1988 388J Lewis 2003 387E James 2000 387R Williams 2002 383W Payton 1984 381M Allen 1985 380E Dickerson 1984 379G Rogers 1981 378E Smith 1995 377J Riggins 1983 375J Bettis 1997 375E Campbell 1980 373E Smith 1992 373L Tomlinson 2002 372C Martin 2004 371C Okoye 1989 370S Alexander 2005 370C Martin 1998 369W Payton 1979 369T Davis 1997 369E James 1999 369C Martin 1995 368E Campbell 1979 368E Smith 1994 368C Martin 1999 367E Smith 1991 365J Wilder 1985 365E Campbell 1981 361H Walker 1988 361R Johnson 2004 361E James 2005 360E George 1997 357T Barber 2005 357S Davis 2001 356T Thomas 1993 355A Green 2003 355J Bettis 2000 355G Riggs 1984 353R Watters 1996 353S Alexander 2004 353

Simply, you cannot run a guy this much without making him less effective. And you know Hermie is gonna ride him like the Pony Express. Johndon is going to be as sore as a back can over the next month. And unlike Mangini, he cannot adjust on the fly. The Broncos are collapsing. The Bengals are done. This season will come down to the last week of the season. If the Jets win against the Raiders, they will be at least a wildcard. KC at the Jags on that day will be a play-in for the other wildcard. And Rehbok Suit Guy will know to key on Johnson, if he is healthy enough to play. Bottom line-the Jets are going to the playoffs, and we'll be doing it a the expense of COach Jerk Chicken. And we'll do it because Larry Johnson cannot physically hope to keep this pace up.

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Johnson will be fine for another year or so, until Herm is done Turlifying the OL.

Once their line has been traded away for 40yr old linebackers Johnson will begin to suffer.

So true. Herm Edwards seems to have no respect for the o-line, he completely ignored it during his tenure here.

It will be a shame if he cuts LJ's career short.

The thing is, Herm doesn't care. He's already on record stating that he "lost track" of how many carries LJ has had in games, and that LJ wants the ball so he's just giving him what he wants.

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Some really good comments here. I agree that Herm will wreck that offense come mid december.

I also agree that it will come down to the jets having to beat oak at the meadowlands in the final game of the season for the jets to make it to the playoffs.

I also would love to see the jets play the Chiefs in the playoffs.. to see the jets destroy them.

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Larry Johnson would run for more than 200 yards versus the Jets rushing defense.

Yeah but hermie wouldn't know what to do with the time outs, the red flag and which play he should run on 3rd and 1. I would love to see that game...come on TX wouldn't you?

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Larry Johnson would run for more than 200 yards versus the Jets rushing defense.

A back who takes a record number of hits isn't going to be so spry and fresh at the end of the season, which is the point of the thread. Bizarre thing-KC has Michael Bennett, who had a nice gainer Thursday night, whereupon Hermie stapled him to the bench.Jets tried to get Bennett, and gotta figure he would've been happier here than holding Johnson's water bottle. Bennett ended T'giving with 2 carries for 59 yards. Guy has all of 25 carries for the season, which sounds kinda familiar. Wear the main guy out, even when you have a decent backup to pick up the slack.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5474

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A back who takes a record number of hits isn't going to be so spry and fresh at the end of the season, which is the point of the thread. Bizarre thing-KC has Michael Bennett, who had a nice gainer Thursday night, whereupon Hermie stapled him to the bench.Jets tried to get Bennett, and gotta figure he would've been happier here than holding Johnson's water bottle. Bennett ended T'giving with 2 carries for 59 yards. Guy has all of 25 carries for the season, which sounds kinda familiar. Wear the main guy out, even when you have a decent backup to pick up the slack.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5474

Herm has plenty of reasons for not utilizing good players (ex. Cotchery circa 2005).. However, he's gonna keep those reasons 'in the family'.

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Larry Johnson would run for more than 200 yards versus the Jets rushing defense.

Jets run defense is still ranked 27th in the NFL giving up an average of 135 yards per game.

Granted, they have shown improvement over the last few weeks, but Larry Johnson would still have a field day.

TX-c'mon. This defense is much better now.Throw us a freaking bone, willya?

If by some miracle Eric Mangini and the Jets find themselves on the opposite sideline from Hermie and the Chiefs in a playoff game, is there any doubt who's winning?

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I highly doubt that now Tex,not the way our defense is playing now

Maybe Kubiak lost the game film, but everyone has run on you up until last week when it appeared they decided to pass 90% of the time.

Your D is playing better, but teams still run on you.

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TX-c'mon. This defense is much better now.Throw us a freaking bone, willya?

If by some miracle Eric Mangini and the Jets find themselves on the opposite sideline from Hermie and the Chiefs in a playoff game, is there any doubt who's winning?

I like our chances, Herm's stupidity alone should negate the LJ advantage.

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TX-c'mon. This defense is much better now.Throw us a freaking bone, willya?

If by some miracle Eric Mangini and the Jets find themselves on the opposite sideline from Hermie and the Chiefs in a playoff game, is there any doubt who's winning?

I'll tell you what Mangini will know EXACTLY what the Chiefs are gonna be doing but Herm will be mystified as to our intentions if past history has anything to do with it

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As of today, Larry Johnson projects to have 410 carries.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/misc/rsh.htm

Look a the leader board of all-time carries in a season; Johnson figures to at this rate tie the record, of 410, held by Jamal Anderson. Just to give you sense what's going on; these guys at the top are a wreck. You cannot do that to any back and think he'll just keep going. But when your coach is a stubborn tool...

Top single seasons since 1960

J Anderson 1998 410J Wilder 1984 407E Dickerson 1986 404E George 2000 403G Riggs 1985 397T Davis 1998 392R Williams 2003 392E Dickerson 1983 390B Foster 1992 390E Dickerson 1988 388J Lewis 2003 387E James 2000 387R Williams 2002 383W Payton 1984 381M Allen 1985 380E Dickerson 1984 379G Rogers 1981 378E Smith 1995 377J Riggins 1983 375J Bettis 1997 375E Campbell 1980 373E Smith 1992 373L Tomlinson 2002 372C Martin 2004 371C Okoye 1989 370S Alexander 2005 370C Martin 1998 369W Payton 1979 369T Davis 1997 369E James 1999 369C Martin 1995 368E Campbell 1979 368E Smith 1994 368C Martin 1999 367E Smith 1991 365J Wilder 1985 365E Campbell 1981 361H Walker 1988 361R Johnson 2004 361E James 2005 360E George 1997 357T Barber 2005 357S Davis 2001 356T Thomas 1993 355A Green 2003 355J Bettis 2000 355G Riggs 1984 353R Watters 1996 353S Alexander 2004 353

Simply, you cannot run a guy this much without making him less effective. And you know Hermie is gonna ride him like the Pony Express. Johndon is going to be as sore as a back can over the next month. And unlike Mangini, he cannot adjust on the fly. The Broncos are collapsing. The Bengals are done. This season will come down to the last week of the season. If the Jets win against the Raiders, they will be at least a wildcard. KC at the Jags on that day will be a play-in for the other wildcard. And Rehbok Suit Guy will know to key on Johnson, if he is healthy enough to play. Bottom line-the Jets are going to the playoffs, and we'll be doing it a the expense of COach Jerk Chicken. And we'll do it because Larry Johnson cannot physically hope to keep this pace up.

Curtis Martin

1995: 368 carries

1996: 316 carries/3.6 ypc

1998: 369 carries/3.5 ypc

1999: 367 carries/4.0 ypc (the league average - and this was one of the better follow-up's - see below)

2000: 316 carries/3.8 ypc

2004: 371 carries

2005: 220 carries/3.3 ypc/injured

It’s pretty hard to find a RB who had a decidedly above-average season after a season like that.

But once you reach around 400 carries, look at what happens to a lot of these guys:

Jamal Anderson

1998: 410 carries

1999: 19 carries/injured – career over

James Wilder

1984: 407 carries

1985: 365 carries/3.6 ypc

never carried 200x in a season again – career as a full-time starter over after 2 seasons

Eric Dickerson:

1986: 404 carries

1987: 293 carries in 12 games (strike season) = the exception & who knows what would’ve happened with 4 more games

Eddie George

2000: 403 carries

2001: 315 carries/3.0 ypc – career of being decent over

Gerald Riggs

1985: 397 carries

1986: 3.9 ypc – 1 more year in the ’87 strike season then he was finished as a starter

Terrell Davis

1998: 392 carries

1999: injured in game 4 - career over

Ricky Williams:

2002: 383 carries

2003: 392 carries/3.5 ypc

2004: out of football - allegedly part of the reason for de ganja was for the pain

Barry Foster:

1992: 390 carries

1993: 177 carries; out of football at age 26

Jamal Lewis

2003: 387 carries

2004: injured & never the same again

Edgerrin James

2000: 387 carries

2001: injured

Marcus Allen

1985: 380 carries (4.6 ypc)

1986: 3.6 ypc

George Rogers

1981: 378 carries in 15 games

1982: injured

Earl Campbell:

1980: 373 carries (5.2 ypc)

1981: 3.8 ypc

There are exceptions like Emmitt Smith & Walter Payton & Dickerson like I mentioned. But the track record isn’t good for the following season (if the player ever fully recovers at all).

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Maybe Kubiak lost the game film, but everyone has run on you up until last week when it appeared they decided to pass 90% of the time.

Your D is playing better, but teams still run on you.

Take away the last 2 Houston "drives", when it was garbage time, and it was a lot closer to a fair split, run vs. pass.

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Spermie-

Thanks for the yeoman stat work, which pretty much confirms what I was thinking, with a few exceptions(Payton, Dickerson andn Emmitt). Just remember how ineffective Martin was vs. Denver in 1998 and all playoffs in 2004. These guys take a serious beating. If they're going to give Johnson 400-odd carries, he's not going to be the same at the end of the season.Those hits add up.

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Spermie-

Thanks for the yeoman stat work, which pretty much confirms what I was thinking, with a few exceptions(Payton, Dickerson andn Emmitt). Just remember how ineffective Martin was vs. Denver in 1998 and all playoffs in 2004. These guys take a serious beating. If they're going to give Johnson 400-odd carries, he's not going to be the same at the end of the season.Those hits add up.

hahahaha yeoman.

You've been watching too much Mark Shlreth.

Or maybe I have.

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Sperm--

Are you complimenting Curtis?????

:ahhh: Now you're just being ridiculous.

He did a so-so job in one of his seasons after 368 carries or whatever, or it was certainly favorable compared to people who blew out their knees. If you take that to be a compliment, then beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I don't see 4.0ypc - the NFL average every single season - as anything other than mediocre (nor his lowly 6.9 ypr).

Nice try though. :wink:

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