Ghost Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Although I'm only 21 years old, I truly believe this is the best defensive player I ever got to see play. I know there's Ed Reed, Ray Lewis, Michael Strahan, Derrick Brooks, but Darrelle Revis is perfect in my eyes. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanFromQueens Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 You can't compare a CB to a MLB etc, etc. One thing is for sure, at this pace, Revis will go down as the greatest shut down corner of all-time. Sanders was an amazingly great corner, but Sanders was also hyped by the media because of his Primetime, Neon-Deion nicknames, high steps into the end zone, famous celebrations after kickoff returns, flashy jewlery and cotching etc, etc. In regards to Revis, he's known for one thing and one thing only. Which is being the greatest SHUT DOWN CORNER in the game today, and maybe even ever. Sanders was a great player, one of the best PLAYERS that ever lived to play the game. I truly rank Sanders as an all-time great. But as far as shut down corner goes... I watched them both, and Revis is a better shut down corner. WR's are also more talented today, than they were during the 90's. Just a different breed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 You can't compare a CB to a MLB etc, etc. One thing is for sure, at this pace, Revis will go down as the greatest shut down corner of all-time. Sanders was an amazingly great corner, but Sanders was also hyped by the media because of his Primetime, Neon-Deion nicknames, high steps into the end zone, famous celebrations after kickoff returns, flashy jewlery and cotching etc, etc. In regards to Revis, he's known for one thing and one thing only. Which is being the greatest SHUT DOWN CORNER in the game today, and maybe even ever. Sanders was a great player, one of the best PLAYERS that ever lived to play the game. I truly rank Sanders as an all-time great. But as far as shut down corner goes... I watched them both, and Revis is a better shut down corner. WR's are also more talented today, than they were during the 90's. Just a different breed. Meh, hard to say. Primetime is one of the greatest athletes of all time. The dude was amazing...even Irvin will say it, he's never seen a better athlete. The difference between Primetime and Revis is Revis is more physical. Primetime was just so fast and so athletic, he could just stick on you like glue without having to put his hands on you. Revis is different. Revis wants to dictate how a route will be run by getting up on you and jamming at the line. Deon would just let you go and then with his make up speed, set up QB's to think that their WR was open and then next thing you know he's high stepping down the sideline. Deon is the greatest I've ever seen and it had nothing do with hype. He's one of the few players in the history of sporst to demand that much attention and back it up by being the best ever to play his position. And Deon had hands too...not saying Revis doesnt, but Deon would take mistakes to the house like it was nothing. Revis has had a few, but no where near the rate that Deon used to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Meh, hard to say. Primetime is one of the greatest athletes of all time. The dude was amazing...even Irvin will say it, he's never seen a better athlete. The difference between Primetime and Revis is Revis is more physical. Primetime was just so fast and so athletic, he could just stick on you like glue without having to put his hands on you. Revis is different. Revis wants to dictate how a route will be run by getting up on you and jamming at the line. Deon would just let you go and then with his make up speed, set up QB's to think that their WR was open and then next thing you know he's high stepping down the sideline. Deon is the greatest I've ever seen and it had nothing do with hype. He's one of the few players in the history of sporst to demand that much attention and back it up by being the best ever to play his position. And Deon had hands too...not saying Revis doesnt, but Deon would take mistakes to the house like it was nothing. Revis has had a few, but no where near the rate that Deon used to do it. The showed Deon highlights on NFL Network the other day and he was very physical at the line of scrimmage. We all know he didn't like to tackle, but he was very physical and intercepted/broke up passes because he was so fast. Too bad the Colts bitched and moaned a few years ago to change the rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 The showed Deon highlights on NFL Network the other day and he was very physical at the line of scrimmage. We all know he didn't like to tackle, but he was very physical and intercepted/broke up passes because he was so fast. Too bad the Colts bitched and moaned a few years ago to change the rules. He was, but its not to the extent of Revis. I can remember plenty of games with Deon being very physical, fighting with Rison because of a hard jam at the LOS. I'm not saying he wasnt, I'm saying he wasnt as physical as Revis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Meh, hard to say. Primetime is one of the greatest athletes of all time. The dude was amazing...even Irvin will say it, he's never seen a better athlete. The difference between Primetime and Revis is Revis is more physical. Primetime was just so fast and so athletic, he could just stick on you like glue without having to put his hands on you. Revis is different. Revis wants to dictate how a route will be run by getting up on you and jamming at the line. Deon would just let you go and then with his make up speed, set up QB's to think that their WR was open and then next thing you know he's high stepping down the sideline. Deon is the greatest I've ever seen and it had nothing do with hype. He's one of the few players in the history of sporst to demand that much attention and back it up by being the best ever to play his position. And Deon had hands too...not saying Revis doesnt, but Deon would take mistakes to the house like it was nothing. Revis has had a few, but no where near the rate that Deon used to do it. Couldn't say it better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 He was, but its not to the extent of Revis. I can remember plenty of games with Deon being very physical, fighting with Rison because of a hard jam at the LOS. I'm not saying he wasnt, I'm saying he wasnt as physical as Revis. Oh God, the slap fight. Worst fight ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 He was, but its not to the extent of Revis. I can remember plenty of games with Deon being very physical, fighting with Rison because of a hard jam at the LOS. I'm not saying he wasnt, I'm saying he wasnt as physical as Revis. So we agree? At the LOS Revis and Deon are awesome. Making a tackle? Advantage Revis in a big way lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Hard to say he's even the best corner of all time, Deon was legit.. of course some may consider the above as me knocking him, but he's def the best corner in football the last few years and was imo the best defensive player in football in 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFan220 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 I think what Revis is doing now, with the new rules that handcuff DBs, gives him a little bit of an edge over Deion. Deion was still a great player and probably one of the greatest athletes to ever play the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonehands Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Although I'm only 21 years old, I truly believe this is the best defensive player I ever got to see play. I know there's Ed Reed, Ray Lewis, Michael Strahan, Derrick Brooks, but Darrelle Revis is perfect in my eyes. Thoughts? When I was 21 I thought Duran Duran was the best band I'd ever seen. When you get older you'll learn that 21 year olds don't know much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 So we agree? At the LOS Revis and Deon are awesome. Making a tackle? Advantage Revis in a big way lol Unfortunately, I'm not willing to say that. I <3 Revis. But Deon was one of the most spectacular athletes I've ever seen. At this point, I'd still give the edge to Deon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Unfortunately, I'm not willing to say that. I <3 Revis. But Deon was one of the most spectacular athletes I've ever seen. At this point, I'd still give the edge to Deon. You say that like your coming from a position of weakness, if you polled non jets fans for the best CB ever, Revis doesn't get a lot of votes.. Deon does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 You say that like your coming from a position of weakness, if you polled non jets fans for the best CB ever, Revis doesn't get a lot of votes.. Deon does Thats why I said unfortunately...I'm a Jets fan. I wish I could say Revis is the best ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Ray Lewis is the best any of us will have ever seen. He has made the Ravens a relevant and competitive team every year of his career. Never seen a LBer dictate a game the way he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Thats why I said unfortunately...I'm a Jets fan. I wish I could say Revis is the best ever. got ya.. and agree w/ape that ray lewis is better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Ray Lewis is the best any of us will have ever seen. He has made the Ravens a relevant and competitive team every year of his career. Never seen a LBer dictate a game the way he does. Lawrence Taylor change offensive scheming he was so good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Ray Lewis is the best any of us will have ever seen. He has made the Ravens a relevant and competitive team every year of his career. Never seen a LBer dictate a game the way he does. got ya.. and agree w/ape that ray lewis is better IDK, there's been a lot of awesome LB'ers in our day. LT, Singletary, Thomas...some serious came changers. Obvioulsy Ray Lew will go down as one of the greatest, but so will Ed Reed on the same team. They both play a big part in the D's success. They are Football junkies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanFromQueens Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Ray Lewis is the best any of us will have ever seen. He has made the Ravens a relevant and competitive team every year of his career. Never seen a LBer dictate a game the way he does. I agree in regards to Ray Lewis. The Dick Butkus of our era. But Patrick Willis is becoming something else. Something that we've never seen before. I've never seen a MLB with his speed and quickness. Great tackler as well. Amazingly strong. Has turned this 49ers defense into a unit. I catch myself watching 49er games often, JUST to watch Patrick Willis dominate the game. During his first 4 years, Willis put up 595 tackles, 15 sacks and 8 forced fumbles. During Ray's first 4 years, Lewis put up 587 tackles, 13 sacks and 2 forced fumbles. He's built just like Ray Lewis as well. Both 6'1, although Lewis has 10 pounds on Willis. So I'll have to agree to disagree in regards to Lewis being the best we'll ever see. Patrick Willis, if he can stay healthy, which is a huge if, could go down as one of the greatest MLB's of all-time as well. To make a long story short, if Lewis in this era's Dick Butkus; Willis is on his way to becoming the next Ray Lewis. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ur89zHyY1ow Watch this video. How can you not be a huge fan of Willis? Without question, outside of the Jets, my favorite player to watch in today's game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 The thing about Revis is that he's still young. If he plays at this level for 5-6 more years, he'll definitely be in the conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted October 19, 2011 Author Share Posted October 19, 2011 Darrelle Revis <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 when is the last time a jet was obviously the best in the NFL at his position ? ever ? add to it the era of high flying offenses, his role is critical. this isn't a FB here he's not the best defender ever, LT was scary, reggie white, singletary...but he is the best in the NFL right now and that's a good thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aqua4ever04 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Revis isn't even in the same ball park as Ed Reed. The guy does waaaaay more than Revis could ever dream of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJets90 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Revis isn't even in the same ball park as Ed Reed. The guy does waaaaay more than Revis could ever dream of. Sure, I mean forget the fact that they play two totally different positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aqua4ever04 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Sure, I mean forget the fact that they play two totally different positions. Sure, I mean forget the fact that the OP said he's the best he's ever seen. I guess Michael Strahan and Derrick Brooks play corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJets90 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Sure, I mean forget the fact that the OP said he's the best he's ever seen. I guess Michael Strahan and Derrick Brooks play corner. I don't agree you can compare positions. In fact, that has already been said in this thread. Of course though, Revis is no Vonte Davis. (He's only struggling because of the 9/11 crap) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aqua4ever04 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 I don't agree you can compare positions. In fact, that has already been said in this thread. I do; it's quite simply actually. Who has a bigger impact on the game? Darrelle Revis does a good job forcing teams to not throw to a certain wide receiver; but Ed Reed ****s up your whole game plan, takes the ball away, and then scores a touchdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJets90 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 I do; it's quite simply actually. Who has a bigger impact on the game? Darrelle Revis does a good job forcing teams to not throw to a certain wide receiver; but Ed Reed ****s up your whole game plan, takes the ball away, and then scores a touchdown. Yeah, because Revis doesn't score TD's and pretty much deletes the opponents best WR from the game. Revis is as good a Corner as Reed is at safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aqua4ever04 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Umm... Reed has three times more touchdowns than Revis. Reed has 70 career turnover making plays (interceptions, forced fumbles, and recovered fumbles.) Revis has 17. "But Revis hasn't been in the league as long as Reed." Exactly, he's off to a good start, but he isn't even in the ballpark of Reed's accomplishments yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJets90 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Umm... Reed has three times more touchdowns than Revis. Reed has 70 career turnover making plays (interceptions, forced fumbles, and recovered fumbles.) Revis has 17. "But Revis hasn't been in the league as long as Reed." Exactly, he's off to a good start, but he isn't even in the ballpark of Reed's accomplishments yet. Ed Reed has 6 pick 6's in a near 10 year career. Revis has 3 in less than 5. As for Fumble TD's Reed has 2 to Revis' 0 because as a safety he faces the running back more. But don't let the facts get in the way of your retarded argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aqua4ever04 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Ed Reed has 6 pick 6's in a near 10 year career. Revis has 3 in less than 5. As for Fumble TD's Reed has 2 to Revis' 0 because as a safety he faces the running back more. But don't let the facts get in the way of your retarded argument. I just posted the facts, genius. You simply eluded them with your giberish and made excuses. And has Revis ever had 4 interceptions in a playoff game? Jets fans are the only football fans in the world that would consider Revis a better player than Reed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJets90 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 I just posted the facts, genius. You simply eluded them with your giberish and made excuses. And has Revis ever had 4 interceptions in a playoff game? Jets fans are the only football fans in the world that would consider Revis a better player than Reed. So one game? Thats it? One game makes your entire argument? Can understand your jealousy though. Must hurt not having one player that teams have to scheme around. And you totally made the 4 INT playoff game up. Never happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanFromQueens Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 I just posted the facts, genius. You simply eluded them with your giberish and made excuses. And has Revis ever had 4 interceptions in a playoff game? Jets fans are the only football fans in the world that would consider Revis a better player than Reed. That's what I think of you, but yeah, Ed Reed is 33 years old. Revis is only 26 years of age. It's just a great feeling, as a fan base, knowing we'll have one of the greatest shut down corners of all-time for the next 10 or so years. Revis is a player who can (and does) completely eliminate opposing QB's #1 WR options such as Calvin Johnson, Andre Johnson, Steve Smith, Randy Moss, Owens, Chad Johnson, Reggie Wayne, Vincent Jackson, White, Colston etc, etc. That's the reason why we finished with the #1 ranked defense in 2009. Another reason why we rank #1 defending the pass, once again, this season. Revis is greatness. Revis has 249 tackles, 2 forced fumbles, 4 fumbles recovered, 17 INT's and 3 TD's and he's still in his 5th season. Reed had 229 tackles, 5 forced fumbles, 3 fumbles recovered, 27 INT's and 3 TD's AFTER his 5th year in the league. I'd say Revis is WELL ON HIS WAY to a great hall of fame career. It's just begun. I love this dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 I do; it's quite simply actually. Who has a bigger impact on the game? Darrelle Revis does a good job forcing teams to not throw to a certain wide receiver; but Ed Reed ****s up your whole game plan, takes the ball away, and then scores a touchdown. heehee http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQlwhs6AeC4&feature=related Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanFromQueens Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Umm... Reed has three times more touchdowns than Revis. And, your point? Ed Reed had 3 TD's after his 5th years in the league. Revis already has 3 TD's... DURING his 5th season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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