Vicious89x Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Hoops baby. Best cardio workout you can do. 2 nights of hoops. 4 nights of weights with some ellipticals thrown in there 2 out of those 4 nights = Sun's Out, Gun's Out. The weights thingy is awesome. I never thought I'd be into them as much as I am. I was always, the run, push ups, sit ups guy when I need to lose the extra pounds put on during Football season. But I'm like really into lifting. Helped me kick the extra weight fast this year. After 3 weeks, I'd pretty much lost all the weight I needed. Now I'm not losing weight because I'm adding muscle. The thing thats a bitch is the belly. Hard to get the flab to muscle. Everything else kind of started taking form quickly. Olympic lifts and squat lol. Overhead squat. Have you tried overhead squatting? If you want to talk about "core stabilization" that's one of the best movements you can do. It's meat headish but it's a rush to move heavy weight. I stopped doing a lot the "cardio conditioning" aspect of Crossfit and am into the strength/Olympic lifts and tacked on 10 lbs of muscle in about 3 months without even trying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Medicine balls, my man. I still need to drop some weight before I'm worrying about sporting a 6-pack, but it's definitely the best bet I've found. Dude, I'm doing it all. Its just a bitch. Now dont get me wrong, I've lost pretty much all my gut...but turing the flab into muscle is different. Every where else I've got definition. I preach short, intense efforts for cardio. Whether it's sprints, Crossfit/circuit training, jump roping, whatever. I think the best break down I give to guys is this: Look at olympic sprinters. They are jacked. Even Usain Bolt who is a lanky build is pretty jacked. Then go look at olympic marathon runners. They look like they're going to die. As a dude would you rather be jacked or skinny? So yes, while long state steady cardio isn't a terrible thing sometimes, it's terrible all the time. And it all depends on your goals, whether it's performance, vanity, general preparedness. I do Crossfit, and I'm a smaller guy, so I dominate workouts that are gymnastics based, but I struggle with the olympic lifts, so I'm working on nothing but olympic lifts and squatting. Now I'm rambling but my point is- know your goal and be honest. If it's vanity... nothing wrong with that, and go from there. I would only recommend don't waste time with machines. Compound lifts ftmfw. Vanity and peformance for me. I'm single guy who's biggest passion is surfing. I want to look good when I take my shirt off and I want to surf forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Olympic lifts and squat lol. Overhead squat. Have you tried overhead squatting? If you want to talk about "core stabilization" that's one of the best movements you can do. It's meat headish but it's a rush to move heavy weight. I stopped doing a lot the "cardio conditioning" aspect of Crossfit and am into the strength/Olympic lifts and tacked on 10 lbs of muscle in about 3 months without even trying. I'm pretty much doing everything in the gym other legs workout and squats. Squats is the way to go huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Meanwhile my body is falling apart at 36. I train 5 days a week yet right now I have muscle spasms in my lower back, tendinitis in my left knee and something going on with my left shoulder. My wife wants me to do tough mudder with her but I seriously don't know if I could do it anymore. Very sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 I'm pretty much doing everything in the gym other legs workout and squats. Squats is the way to go huh? I think your MT will confirm squats = king. And don't do that 90 degree bullsh*t. Squat below parallel, it works your abs, glutes, hams, quads, calves, pretty much everything PLUS I'm going to just guess that a strong core/legs is key in surfing. This is a good instructional video. If I were to recommend lifts for people to hit in the gym it'd be: Squat Front Squat Overhead Squat Deadlift Press w/barbell Bench Cleans Snatch If you want guns nothing wrong with some curls. I just view it simply as "How many muscles am I using doing this lift" cause the more you use, the more intense/calorie burning/beneficial it is to your body. Nothing wrong with curls though, I just don't do them cause I do a sh*t ton of pull ups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraightCash Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 I preach short, intense efforts for cardio. Whether it's sprints, Crossfit/circuit training, jump roping, whatever. I think the best break down I give to guys is this: Look at olympic sprinters. They are jacked. Even Usain Bolt who is a lanky build is pretty jacked. Then go look at olympic marathon runners. They look like they're going to die. As a dude would you rather be jacked or skinny? So yes, while long state steady cardio isn't a terrible thing sometimes, it's terrible all the time. And it all depends on your goals, whether it's performance, vanity, general preparedness. I do Crossfit, and I'm a smaller guy, so I dominate workouts that are gymnastics based, but I struggle with the olympic lifts, so I'm working on nothing but olympic lifts and squatting. Now I'm rambling but my point is- know your goal and be honest. If it's vanity... nothing wrong with that, and go from there. I would only recommend don't waste time with machines. Compound lifts ftmfw. The best benefit of long steady cardio, as ladyfriend says, is it teaches manipulation of the heart rate. You become more comfortable performing anything at a sustained high heart rate, can recover it way faster, and once your in shape your average workout rate is lower, meaning you can go even harder for longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 I think your MT will confirm squats = king. And don't do that 90 degree bullsh*t. Squat below parallel, it works your abs, glutes, hams, quads, calves, pretty much everything PLUS I'm going to just guess that a strong core/legs is key in surfing. This is a good instructional video. If I were to recommend lifts for people to hit in the gym it'd be: Squat Front Squat Overhead Squat Deadlift Press w/barbell Bench Cleans Snatch If you want guns nothing wrong with some curls. I just view it simply as "How many muscles am I using doing this lift" cause the more you use, the more intense/calorie burning/beneficial it is to your body. Nothing wrong with curls though, I just don't do them cause I do a sh*t ton of pull ups. Nice...I'll check this out. I do curls, bench and a ton of other type of lifts that work specific muscles. Maybe need to start incorporating those lifts you are talking about...just never do them. Thought they were all lower body work outs which I get from hoops and ellipticals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Nice...I'll check this out. I do curls, bench and a ton of other type of lifts that work specific muscles. Maybe need to start incorporating those lifts you are talking about...just never do them. Thought they were all lower body work outs which I get from hoops and ellipticals. Hoops is a great workout. Compound lifts increase testosterone, which in turn generates more muscle growth. I wish Crusher would jump in on this. Squats = win in terms of getting jacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 The best benefit of long steady cardio, as ladyfriend says, is it teaches manipulation of the heart rate. You become more comfortable performing anything at a sustained high heart rate, can recover it way faster, and once your in shape your average workout rate is lower, meaning you can go even harder for longer. Arguments for and against everything. I'm just a sprinter. That's my mentality. I tried the runner thing for a year and didn't see much gains. As gay as this sounds that why fitness is fun for me, cause people react different to different things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 I wish I could ball more often. Seems there's just no indoor courts in this city to play at for free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 We should have a Mafia pickup game. Vic at point, me at the 2, JiF at the 3, and Crusher at the 4 and 5 simultaneously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 I wish I could ball more often. Seems there's just no indoor courts in this city to play at for free. I just got lucky. Found 2 indoor games that are every week, year round. I was playing at some park on double rims...and while my shot is silky enough, I cant be my normal self on a the double rim half moon back boards. Give me glass and a breakaway - I'll fill that bitch up all night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 We should have a Mafia pickup game. Vic at point, me at the 2, JiF at the 3, and Crusher at the 4 and 5 simultaneously. I could run the pick while Crusher just rolls around. Kick it out to JiF for that butter J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted February 13, 2012 Author Share Posted February 13, 2012 We should have a Mafia pickup game. Vic at point, me at the 2, JiF at the 3, and Crusher at the 4 and 5 simultaneously. I would feel slighted that I was left out, but I am a fairly awful at basketball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 I could run the pick while Crusher just rolls around. Kick it out to JiF for that butter J. MingVor swats ball through window with penis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan. Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 We should have a Mafia pickup game. Vic at point, me at the 2, JiF at the 3, and Crusher at the 4 and 5 simultaneously. I challenge any of you to a tennis match? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 I challenge any of you to a tennis match? That is so incredibly Asian of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 I challenge any of you to a tennis match? Sure. I'll play left handed to make it fair for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan. Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Sure. I'll play left handed to make it fair for you. Maaaybe you can serve lefty, haha. Depending on how fast your serve is. Other than that I feel good about this match. PM me if you're serious and we can play if you're ever in my area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 She's like a Jordan/Bryant-esque stone cold killer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Maaaybe you can serve lefty, haha. Depending on how fast your serve is. Other than that I feel good about this match. PM me if you're serious and we can play if you're ever in my area. Game on. I grew up with 4 sisters, I do not take it easy on girls, just fyi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan. Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Game on. I grew up with 4 sisters, I do not take it easy on girls, just fyi. Excellent! I hope you hit as hard as you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Excellent! I hope you hit as hard as you can. It will be like payback for last game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan. Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 It will be like payback for last game. I hope so. I can't wait. How good are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 I hope so. I can't wait. How good are you? very good. my mother was a tennis instructor. you're dead meat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan. Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 very good. my mother was a tennis instructor. you're dead meat. Nice, that must have been awesome! Haha mine just pretended to be one (i.e. would drag me out to the courts every morning and set up the ball machine). Did you play juniors, college, etc.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Nice, that must have been awesome! Haha mine just pretended to be one (i.e. would drag me out to the courts every morning and set up the ball machine). Did you play juniors, college, etc.? No. My mom was a club instructor so I played club and swam until I was about 12. I played football and lacrosse in hs, college although I was better at the wimpier sports tbh. Lol I can see poor little Dan now. Ma do I have to?? Yes dear we must work on that backhand. I was gonna say I'll play you and JVOR both a the same time but I think i already underestimated you a la everything else we do around here. Lulz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan. Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 No. My mom was a club instructor so I played club and swam until I was about 12. I played football and lacrosse in hs, college although I was better at the wimpier sports tbh. Lol I can see poor little Dan now. Ma do I have to?? Yes dear we must work on that backhand. I was gonna say I'll play you and JVOR both a the same time but I think i already underestimated you a la everything else we do around here. Lulz. Hehe my issue was usually footwork, well more like laziness, lol. My coach liked to make me play with my legs tied together. But I'm serious, if you serve anywhere near the 120 range I'll need you to serve lefty unless you just want to ace me a whole ton. I'm kind of hoping that you kick my a$$ though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Hehe my issue was usually footwork, well more like laziness, lol. My coach liked to make me play with my legs tied together. But I'm serious, if you serve anywhere near the 120 range I'll need you to serve lefty unless you just want to ace me a whole ton. I'm kind of hoping that you kick my a$$ though. Meh I'm already digressing. I've played twice since HS. Once was at a company function where I played and ex-College player. He beat me 6-0 in one set but I swear to god I was the only one in the company who could play and volley with him, I even dropped deuce on him one game. But now your skillz are making me nervous. I will play righty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan. Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Meh I'm already digressing. I've played twice since HS. Once was at a company function where I played and ex-College player. He beat me 6-0 in one set but I swear to god I was the only one in the company who could play and volley with him, I even dropped deuce on him one game. But now your skillz are making me nervous. I will play righty. You shouldn't be nervous, I've only played for fun since HS too. I got really burnt out. So my accuracy is not at all what it used to be. But I still hit really hard, which is the fun part! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 No. My mom was a club instructor so I played club and swam until I was about 12. I played football and lacrosse in hs, college although I was better at the wimpier sports tbh. Lol I can see poor little Dan now. Ma do I have to?? Yes dear we must work on that backhand. I was gonna say I'll play you and JVOR both a the same time but I think i already underestimated you a la everything else we do around here. Lulz. Well, the big black guy is actually country club silver spooner. Go figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Well, the big black guy is actually country club silver spooner. Go figure. you racist bastard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 you racist bastard. Thats unfair. I hate everyone who isnt white. Its not like I just hate one race or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Thats unfair. I hate everyone who isnt white. Its not like I just hate one race or something. That's cool. I just hate white people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 That's cool. I just hate white people. Funny thing is, I hate 90% of them too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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