SouthernJet Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Bit: What are your thoughts and possible Jets interest for two Duke players, both mid to low round projections I think. QB Sean Renfree and possession WR Connor Vernon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 How does getting rid of Dewayne Robertson make the Jets better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted March 14, 2013 Author Share Posted March 14, 2013 How does getting rid of Dewayne Robertson make the Jets better? I am trying to have a serious thread you scallywag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 I am trying to have a serious thread you scallywag I yam what I yam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 What's the proper percentage of body fat a defensive tackle needs in order to be considered a once-in-a-generation prospect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Thank you SJ for creating this thread. I would bust out my Bitonti + DRob picture but it makes him upset. That plus I doubt I can find it anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 calling me a draft expert isn't gonna end well. I prefer draft enthusiast. or super fan maybe. first off Duke actually wasn't sh*tty this year. They were a great bet getting points many weeks. RE: renfree he's a real interesting sleeper in an unpredictable QB class. . He's got arm strength and he's got a chance. A team could take him and find a gem. More likely a clipboard holder but worth a shot on day 3. Vernon ran a linebacker number at 4.68. I guess he could be a slot guy but he's not gonna get a whole lot of chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Please, please, no one ask him about Revis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 What's the proper percentage of body fat a defensive tackle needs in order to be considered a once-in-a-generation prospect? You are a once in a generation message board poster. And i don't need to break out the calipers for that statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryno the Jet Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 How far will Damontre Moore fall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 You are a once in a generation message board poster. And i don't need to break out the calipers for that statement. I'm probably 37% body fat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 How far will Damontre Moore fall? Hopefully to the Jets in the 2nd round Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 How far will Damontre Moore fall? great question. late 2/early 3. and that's being generous. He could be one of those guys who is at the top of Kipers big board for an uncomfortably long time. There's just not alot of call for defensive ends who run 4.94 and put up 12 reps (now 19 after pro day) side note on Moore i asked a Texas A&M guy how the Moore/Joeckel battles were like in practice and he said Joeckel always won and it wasn't close. Moore has kinda been exposed as a not elite athlete. and every time a guy runs some sick time somewhere, he gets leapfrogged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Who do you man crush on more? Kiper or McShay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Who has the higher ceiling: Cordarelle Patterson or Keenan Allen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Is Manti Te'o draftable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Who do you man crush on more? Kiper or McShay? Kiper. Duh. the Hair helmet is one of the wonders of the hair world. It's like don king's tower or michael richard's kramer-fro. It's a first ballot HOF Hairdoo. I also enjoy when Kiper and McShay are on the same segments how they seem to loathe each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 McShay is awful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JADEDGREEN Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Is there one person in all of UMass we could draft, that could possibly be worse than Ducasse? How about all of Haiti? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Is Manti Te'o draftable? Yes. ( read that post quick and thought it said "is Manti Te'o terrible" my one word answer could work for that question too. ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 How far will Damontre Moore fall? Good question. I'm hoping to Los Yets in the second, but can the most productive pass rusher in the draft fall that far because of a 40 time? BIT, with all the focus on Warmack/Cooper, who are some of the other OL options that we should all be aware of? I'll start with Brian Winters and Larry Warford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 What round do you think Jonathan Cyprien will go in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Who has the higher ceiling: Cordarelle Patterson or Keenan Allen? Im worried about Keenan Allen. He went to see Dr James Andrews about his lingering knee situation and that's never good. If he doesn't work out well in April he might not go in rd 1. Patterson is obviously the better athlete but Allen is the better player. If both pan out Patterson is AJ Green, Allen is Miles Austin. Patterson doesn't have AJ Green's natural hands but he is a playmaker. Allen is a possession yac guy with natural hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Lets keep the snide remarks for other threads-give Bit a chance to give his opinions on current crop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 BIT, with all the focus on Warmack/Cooper, who are some of the other OL options that we should all be aware of? I'll start with Brian Winters and Larry Warford. Im gonna go back to Warmack Cooper for a second. I thought the Jets would pass on these guys.. but all this talk about Idzik wanting the 13 pick from tampa bay... got me thinking why? Why would he want that pick? If he didn't have a plan, 2014 1 pick would be fine. Probably not to trade up. If the guards are on the Jets board the Jets could go OG at 9 and DE/OLB at 13 (or whatever) and feel like there's a reasonable chance of getting a good player at both position. A month ago no way the Jets get Warmack or cooper. Now... with Moore and Slauson free agents (and neither being signed), i think they are looking at these guys as safe picks at positions of need. Call it a flip flop but My thinking on the guards are evolving. As for Winters he's a tough guy try hard guy with great technique. I like him as a younger (better) version of Danny Watkins (or what Watkins was projected to be). easy top 100 pick (rd 3). A team could fall in love and go rd 2. I think that's reachy but he's got a high floor (unlikely to bust) Warford I think is gonna fall to round 5 or below for weight and balance reasons. I don't think he's a possible RT, altho some have him graded out that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 What round do you think Jonathan Cyprien will go in? late rd 1. he's rising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 How does getting rid of Dewayne Robertson make the Jets better? I don't know about that .... but getting rid of Kerry Rhodes did not make us a better team according to The Master ... so I guess the Cardinals are in a world of sh*t ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryno the Jet Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 great question. late 2/early 3. and that's being generous. He could be one of those guys who is at the top of Kipers big board for an uncomfortably long time. There's just not alot of call for defensive ends who run 4.94 and put up 12 reps (now 19 after pro day) side note on Moore i asked a Texas A&M guy how the Moore/Joeckel battles were like in practice and he said Joeckel always won and it wasn't close. Moore has kinda been exposed as a not elite athlete. and every time a guy runs some sick time somewhere, he gets leapfrogged. I am not surprised that LJ owned Moore in practice, but I think a lot of that has to do with effort. Moore always showed up on gameday. That said, I don't really have an interest in players with poor work ethic. Moore was great for A&M, but I think he might be JAG in the NFL. He and Christine Michael have really disappointed me and the rest of AggieNation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Im gonna go back to Warmack Cooper for a second. I thought the Jets would pass on these guys.. but all this talk about Idzik wanting the 13 pick from tampa bay... got me thinking why? Why would he want that pick? If he didn't have a plan, 2014 1 pick would be fine. Probably not to trade up. Thought the same thing. All I thought about when Tampa's 1st was rumored was that this is the perfect opportunity to grab Cooper AND a pass rusher. I really like Cooper. I think he's a stah/playmaker in offensive guard form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 You've gotta get one QB ready to compete with in two years to save your job, and your choices are Ryan Nassib and EJ Manuel. Who you taking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 You've gotta get one QB ready to compete with in two years to save your job, and your choices are Ryan Nassib and EJ Manuel. Who you taking? THIS is a good question. Manuel has alot of likeable traits but there's something I don't like about how he passes the ball. Not enough NFL caliber throws. The thing about him is that he's tall, physically gifted, and will interview really well...like really well. Nassib, to me, is a better QB type athlete (though Manuel is a better athlete in general) with average to above average skills and tools across the board. I lean Nassib thinking what I currently think, but Manuel can put up a great case on paper. I am interested to see how bit answers this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 BIT, how do you scout the DE/OLB prospects this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 I heard Bradway was scouting Geno. If the JETS take him at #9 how many years will it set the franchise back by ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 You've gotta get one QB ready to compete with in two years to save your job, and your choices are Ryan Nassib and EJ Manuel. Who you taking? the short time window makes me lean Manuel and install a spread of some kind. Nassib might take years, if at all. There's a case to be made that Manuel is a better player period (Manuel certainly produced more in the senior bowl game). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 BIT, how do you scout the DE/OLB prospects this year? Jarvis Jones is my guy but he's not a tweener (DE converting) so not on this list. 1. Mingo 2. Jordan 3. Ansah 4. Werner 5. Lemonier all with rd 1 grades. after that.. Tank Carridine and Alex Okafor i guess. Then demontre. There's actually a good amount of mid/late round sleepers at this position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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