Rex Ryan: "Can't Really Say" Whether Geno Smith Will Start Next Season

[joewillie78]

Geno couldn't beat out Sanchez. If they sign Vick he won't beat him out Vick is a better qb. ! That's why he won't be signed ! The jets will sign someone that he can beat out!

Definitely agree, he would never beat out VICK. The "competition" however between GENO and SANCHEZ, though completely comical, would nonetheless be very close.

[GREENBEAN]

Tame/Skinny Rex hasn't made the playoffs. Bring back fat and trash talkin' Rex if you want to win, obviously.

Yes. That's obviously it. 

[Jetlife33]

I want to see Geno and how he grows from year 1 to year 2 under Marty's system. Still have more faith in him than most. That doesn't mean ignore the position. Whether it's through the draft free, agency or trade the jets should get a viable option at the QB position. Let them battle it out during training camp and throughout preseason and see if Geno has made progress in areas which he was weak and see if he deserves to start for this team.

[SenorGato]

I just realized this creates a new Rex issue - he's indecisive. How does he not know? 

[joewillie78]

I just realized this creates a new Rex issue - he's indecisive. How does he not know? 

New issue?

[slats]

I want to see Geno and how he grows from year 1 to year 2 under Marty's system. Still have more faith in him than most. That doesn't mean ignore the position. Whether it's through the draft free, agency or trade the jets should get a viable option at the QB position. Let them battle it out during training camp and throughout preseason and see if Geno has made progress in areas which he was weak and see if he deserves to start for this team.

My biggest concern with Geno before the Jets drafted him was his mental makeup, and that hasn't changed. He does not seem to respond well to adversity. On the field, you can see his mood slump with his performance, off the field he whines and wants to go home when he's not drafted in the first round. This airplane thing reeks of that same sort of immaturity.

He did finish the season decently. That was a plus. And barring a major unforeseen trade for an established starter at the position, he's earned the right to compete next year.

But yeah, the Jets need to bring in a couple QBs. I'd like to see a veteran with some starting experience who doesn't have one foot in the grave, and a genuine prospect from the draft - not some sixth or seventh round fodder. Geno should be in a battle for the starting job, and Matt Simms should be in a fight for a roster spot.

[SenorGato]

New issue?

 

The old one was that he was overly decisive on the QBs, no? JN legend has it that Rex hated the likes of McElroy, Simms, and even Clemens so much that he refused to let their stars shine in the regular season unless very specific conditions were met.

[Larz]

My biggest concern with Geno before the Jets drafted him was his mental makeup, and that hasn't changed. He does not seem to respond well to adversity. On the field, you can see his mood slump with his performance, off the field he whines and wants to go home when he's not drafted in the first round. This airplane thing reeks of that same sort of immaturity.

He did finish the season decently. That was a plus. And barring a major unforeseen trade for an established starter at the position, he's earned the right to compete next year.

But yeah, the Jets need to bring in a couple QBs. I'd like to see a veteran with some starting experience who doesn't have one foot in the grave, and a genuine prospect from the draft - not some sixth or seventh round fodder. Geno should be in a battle for the starting job, and Matt Simms should be in a fight for a roster spot.

 

 

he just needs to stop smoking weed

[slats]

he just needs to stop smoking weed

Or he needs to smoke more. Stoned people are rarely escorted off of airplanes.

[Jetlife33]

My biggest concern with Geno before the Jets drafted him was his mental makeup, and that hasn't changed. He does not seem to respond well to adversity. On the field, you can see his mood slump with his performance, off the field he whines and wants to go home when he's not drafted in the first round. This airplane thing reeks of that same sort of immaturity.

He did finish the season decently. That was a plus. And barring a major unforeseen trade for an established starter at the position, he's earned the right to compete next year.

But yeah, the Jets need to bring in a couple QBs. I'd like to see a veteran with some starting experience who doesn't have one foot in the grave, and a genuine prospect from the draft - not some sixth or seventh round fodder. Geno should be in a battle for the starting job, and Matt Simms should be in a fight for a roster spot.

I think that Geno's mental make up is something that can be fixed. He has the physical tools and can make all the throws with good protection. He started to use his legs more as the season went on so that's a plus as well. That said, his judgement with the ball needs to be improved. Let's see what he can do with a few new toys via the draft and free agency.

[flgreen]

Sunday notes: Geno not ready for No. 1 job

February, 2, 2014

FEB 2

5:00

AM ET

By Rich Cimini | ESPNNewYork.com

 

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NEW YORK -- Talking New York Jets and Super Bowl XLVIII from the greatest city in the world:

 

 

1. Not yet, Geno: Hoping to get a sense of how non-Jets personnel feel about Geno Smith, I interviewed 10 experts throughout the week -- talent evaluators, analysts and former players-turned-analysts. The overwheleming consensus: He hasn't done enough to be anointed the Jets' franchise quarterback, although many believe he deserves another shot with a better supporting cast.

 

 

"I don't think you just hand him the job," CBS' Rich Gannon said. "I think you make it a competitive situation. They have to get better at that position. They need more depth and talent there, and I anticipate that will happen this offseason."

 

 

A longtime personnel man mentioned two weaknesses and raised a question about Smith, saying: His body is "too soft," he must do a better job of processing information and, "Does he love football or does he like football?" In professional football, there's a huge difference.

 

 

Bart Scott said "you can't get a fair assessment" of Smith because of the lack of weapons on offense. He suggested acquiring Matt Schaub, who many believe will be released by the Houston Texans. Schaub is "somebody who can compete and steady the ship, a bridge if Geno isn't ready yet. If not, you move on and draft somebody else."

 

 

Former New York Giants wide receiver Amani Toomer said, "I don't think he's done enough to secure the job. I think he's done some good things, but he's done a lot of bad things, too, so I wouldn't bank on Geno Smith. He's a guy that can be promising -- he has a lot of potential -- but potential gets coaches fired."

 

 

Tony Richardson said the Jets should sign a veteran and create a competition, with Smith having "the upper hand" at the outset. Smith used up his slack last season, according to Richardson, who said "Jets fans went through the growing pains and now it's time to win football games. The best guy should be the starter, period."

 

 

Anthony Becht believes the Jets should be patient with Smith because of his physical talent. He said it was "a humbling year" for Smith, starting with his unexpected slide in the draft. The adversity, Becht said, will fuel Smith's motivation. "You stick with the guy," he said. "People are afraid to take the time and develop talent. Sometimes they don't come right out of the box."

 

Wilkerson

 

2. Mo money for Wilkerson?: It'll be fascinating to see how the Muhammad Wilkerson contract situation plays out -- all the 2011 first-round picks, for that matter. Some in the industry believe Wilkerson, who has outperformed his rookie contract, should play hardball and stage a training camp holdout, if necessary. As I explained last Sunday, the Jets can have him for only about $7.2 million over the next two years, assuming they exercise the fifth-year option in May. He's scheduled to make only $1.2 million in 2014 and, although the '15 option year would be guaranteed against injury, it's still a risk. This is uncharted territory because the '11 draft is the first affected by the new CBA. On Saturday, GM John Idzik declined to reveal his plans for Wilkerson.

 

 

2a. Temple of doom: Wilkerson played two years at Temple with Denver Broncos defensive tackle Terrance Knighton -- aka Pot Roast. Wilkerson was the young pup, Knighton the upperclassman. Knighton knew Wilkersom was something special. "He was actually my backup," Pot Roast said. "He's a great player. The whole time I was at Temple, I was hoping he wasn't going to start over me."

 

 

3. Spy Games: The acrimony between the Jets and New England Patriots runs so deep that, before the AFC Championship Game was played, the Patriots were squawking about the prospect of having to practice at the Jets' facility during the run-up to the Super Bowl. In fact, they wanted to practice at Rutgers instead of the Jets. It turned out to be a moot point, obviously. Both the Jets and Giants, concerned about the possibility of hosting division rivals for the week, actually asked the league if they could trade places -- NFC team at the Jets, AFC at the Giants. That request was denied. As it turned out, the Jets and Broncos hit it off. The Jets found the Broncos to be terrific guests.

 

 

4. Give my regards to Bradway: Only two players from Terry Bradway's final draft as the Jets' GM (2005) remain active in the league -- kicker Mike Nugent (Cincinnati Bengals) and tight end Joel Dreessen (Broncos). Dreessen played one season with the Jets and was cut by Eric Mangini in 2006. He never forgot it. In 2010, as a member of the Texans, he caught four passes for 106 yards and a touchdown against the Jets. When he scored, he fired the football at a Jets logo on the wall behind the end zone. "That was one of my most liberating moments," Dreessen told me. "That was a really cool moment for me."

 

 

5. Trade winds: The Jets should be monitoring the Larry Fitzgerald contract situation in Arizona. If it falls apart, the Jets should swoop in to see if he'd be available in a trade. Even though he turns 31 in August, Fitzgerald would be a perfect fit for the receiver-needy Jets -- at the right price, of course. He told several media outlets this week at the Super Bowl that he's willing to restructure his contract, which has an $18 million cap charge in 2014. Stay tuned.

 

 

Ryan

 

6. The Rex-tension: Maybe it's just me, but ...

 

 

Every time Rex Ryan does an interview (and he did plenty this week) and is asked about his recent contract extension, it sounds like he's trying to convince everyone (maybe even himself) that he's happy with the outcome. Just my two cents.

 

 

7. Speaking the same language: After listening to the Seattle Seahawks for a week, it's amazing how much their players and coaches emphasize competition. Sound familiar? Idzik, a former Seahawks executive, preaches the same gospel. It's rooted in the Pete Carroll philosophy. In fact, Carroll takes it to the extreme with "Competition Wednesday." Every Wednesday, the first-team offense competes against the first-team defense in an unscripted practice -- highly unusual in the NFL. Not even the Jets go that far. But, hey, it's a copy-cat league. If the Seahawks win the Super Bowl, you might see a "Competition Wednesday" or two popping up around the NFL.

 

 

8. No Ordinary Joe: Talked to a couple of Hall of Fame voters this week who can't believe Joe Klecko never garners serious consideration for the Hall. It's hard to believe, isn't it? All he did was make the Pro Bowl at three different positions on the defensive line.

 

 

Sapp

 

9. Sad Sapp: Warren Sapp is an embarrassment. Actually, it's sad to see a Hall of Famer -- a person who accomplished so much professionally -- behave like a spoiled, jealous kid. This week, on the NFL's biggest stage, Sapp felt it was his place to dump on Michael Strahan's Hall of Fame candidacy. Sinking to another low, Sapp, in an interview with the New York Daily News, took a couple of shots at Jets rookie DT Sheldon Richardson. Memo to Sapp: Grow up or please go away.

 

 

10. An Ode to Peyton: Heard this anecdote about Peyton Manning a few years ago, and it bears repeating on Super Bowl Sunday. In 1998, Manning and Ryan Leaf were projected as the top two picks in the draft. The Chargers, picking second, wanted to interview both prospects. They sent an abbreviated version of their playbook to each and asked them to learn the offense before the interview. As a reward and a test, the coaches stapled a $20 bill to the last page -- a clever way to determine if they'd read the entire book. Leaf arrived for his interview and never mentioned anything about the $20. Clearly, he didn't know it was there. Manning showed up and immediately thanked the coaches for the $20. And there you have it. Unfortunately for the Chargers, they never got a shot at Manning, who went No. 1 overall.

[slats]

I think that Geno's mental make up is something that can be fixed. He has the physical tools and can make all the throws with good protection. He started to use his legs more as the season went on so that's a plus as well. That said, his judgement with the ball needs to be improved. Let's see what he can do with a few new toys via the draft and free agency.

I don't know if mental makeup can be "fixed." It's possible that he can grow up, though, if that's the issue.

We agree that the Jets need to bring in real competition, and if/when they do, that will be the first real opportunity for Geno to display some emotional improvement. He can either rise to the occasion, or slump off into a backup role.

[Lizard King]

If we got Larry Fitzgerlad I wouldn't be able to contain myself

[T0mShane]

My biggest concern with Geno before the Jets drafted him was his mental makeup, and that hasn't changed. He does not seem to respond well to adversity. On the field, you can see his mood slump with his performance, off the field he whines and wants to go home when he's not drafted in the first round. This airplane thing reeks of that same sort of immaturity.

He did finish the season decently. That was a plus. And barring a major unforeseen trade for an established starter at the position, he's earned the right to compete next year.

But yeah, the Jets need to bring in a couple QBs. I'd like to see a veteran with some starting experience who doesn't have one foot in the grave, and a genuine prospect from the draft - not some sixth or seventh round fodder. Geno should be in a battle for the starting job, and Matt Simms should be in a fight for a roster spot.

Here's the thing with the Magic Bullet QB solution: there are none available this year. If you're talking about vet QBs that will shake loose, you're staring at...

1. Matt Schaub-- Almost guaranteed to be exiled from Houston despite a pretty fat cap number.

2. Tarvaris Jackson-- Seattle connection, starting experience. Ick.

3. Mike Vick-- Mornhinweg connection, but wants to start and could be a dick about it.

4. Kurt Cousins-- Jay Gruden went all-in on his RGIII proclamation and the Skins might decide that having Cousins around is a distraction. He played like shot down the stretch when given a chance to start, but the Skins had given up by that point. Could cost a two(?)

5. Detritus Class (McCown/Henne/Shaun Hill): You could try to catch lightning in a bottle by starting one of these journeyman types, but that doesn't help this team find a long-term starter at QB. And if they're not doing that, then they're spinning their wheels.

As for rookies, there's Bridgewater and Manziel, neither of whom is expected to get out of the Top Ten. Then there's Blake Bortles, whom Draft Media seems to enjoy, but is considered a longer-term developmental project. It's not impossible that he drops. After Tennessee (at 11) no one needs a QB until the Jets pick. Then there's Zach Mettenberger, who could be this year's EJ Manuel--6'5, big arm, big program. Do the Jets use #18 on a QB?

[joewillie78]

Here's the thing with the Magic Bullet QB solution: there are none available this year. If you're talking about vet QBs that will shake loose, you're staring at...

1. Matt Schaub-- Almost guaranteed to be exiled from Houston despite a pretty fat cap number.

2. Tarvaris Jackson-- Seattle connection, starting experience. Ick.

3. Mike Vick-- Mornhinweg connection, but wants to start and could be a dick about it.

4. Kurt Cousins-- Jay Gruden went all-in on his RGIII proclamation and the Skins might decide that having Cousins around is a distraction. He played like shot down the stretch when given a chance to start, but the Skins had given up by that point. Could cost a two(?)

5. Detritus Class (McCown/Henne/Shaun Hill): You could try to catch lightning in a bottle by starting one of these journeyman types, but that doesn't help this team find a long-term starter at QB. And if they're not doing that, then they're spinning their wheels.

As for rookies, there's Bridgewater and Manziel, neither of whom is expected to get out of the Top Ten. Then there's Blake Bortles, whom Draft Media seems to enjoy, but is considered a longer-term developmental project. It's not impossible that he drops. After Tennessee (at 11) no one needs a QB until the Jets pick. Then there's Zach Mettenberger, who could be this year's EJ Manuel--6'5, big arm, big program. Do the Jets use #18 on a QB?

How do you think GENO would handle "losing" the starting role to an "established" veteren, and do you belive his reaction would be different if he lost the starting role to a ROOKIE, like Matt Flynn lost to Wilson in Seattle.

I guess in other words, does he have the mental fortitude to accept losing and a demotion with respect to the starting QB position?

[T0mShane]

How do you think GENO would handle "losing" the starting role to an "established" veteren, and do you belive his reaction would be different if he lost the starting role to a ROOKIE, like Matt Flynn lost to Wilson in Seattle.

I guess in other words, does he have the mental fortitude to accept losing and a demotion with respect to the starting QB position?

You really can't worry about Geno's feelings. They worried about Sanchez's feelings and it ruined them.

[joewillie78]

You really can't worry about Geno's feelings. They worried about Sanchez's feelings and it ruined them.

True. Great point.

[Larz]

Or he needs to smoke more. Stoned people are rarely escorted off of airplanes.

 

someone here posted he's a pot head, and claimed good sources.  I think it explains a lot if true.  I was getting at the maturity issue, not the plane issue.  if he smoked before getting on a plane, that's not immaturity, that's stupidity

 

a ton of NFL players are smokers.  just wish our QB had a clear head

[Larz]

Here's the thing with the Magic Bullet QB solution: there are none available this year. If you're talking about vet QBs that will shake loose, you're staring at...

1. Matt Schaub-- Almost guaranteed to be exiled from Houston despite a pretty fat cap number.

2. Tarvaris Jackson-- Seattle connection, starting experience. Ick.

3. Mike Vick-- Mornhinweg connection, but wants to start and could be a dick about it.

4. Kurt Cousins-- Jay Gruden went all-in on his RGIII proclamation and the Skins might decide that having Cousins around is a distraction. He played like shot down the stretch when given a chance to start, but the Skins had given up by that point. Could cost a two(?)

5. Detritus Class (McCown/Henne/Shaun Hill): You could try to catch lightning in a bottle by starting one of these journeyman types, but that doesn't help this team find a long-term starter at QB. And if they're not doing that, then they're spinning their wheels.

As for rookies, there's Bridgewater and Manziel, neither of whom is expected to get out of the Top Ten. Then there's Blake Bortles, whom Draft Media seems to enjoy, but is considered a longer-term developmental project. It's not impossible that he drops. After Tennessee (at 11) no one needs a QB until the Jets pick. Then there's Zach Mettenberger, who could be this year's EJ Manuel--6'5, big arm, big program. Do the Jets use #18 on a QB?

 

the perfect back up is out there, and becoming available.

 

Shaun Hill.  34 years old, but can still walk.  6'3", 220.  12 year veteran, but not going to cause a controversy.  950 pass attempts, 26 starts in the NFL

 

41 TD's vs 23 INT's.  career 85 rating

 

perfect back up.  idziks needs to be at this guys doorstep at midnight the day FA begins

[sourceworx]

 

Here's the thing with the Magic Bullet QB solution: there are none available this year. If you're talking about vet QBs that will shake loose, you're staring at...

1. Matt Schaub-- Almost guaranteed to be exiled from Houston despite a pretty fat cap number.

2. Tarvaris Jackson-- Seattle connection, starting experience. Ick.

3. Mike Vick-- Mornhinweg connection, but wants to start and could be a dick about it.

4. Kurt Cousins-- Jay Gruden went all-in on his RGIII proclamation and the Skins might decide that having Cousins around is a distraction. He played like shot down the stretch when given a chance to start, but the Skins had given up by that point. Could cost a two(?)

5. Detritus Class (McCown/Henne/Shaun Hill): You could try to catch lightning in a bottle by starting one of these journeyman types, but that doesn't help this team find a long-term starter at QB. And if they're not doing that, then they're spinning their wheels.


As for rookies, there's Bridgewater and Manziel, neither of whom is expected to get out of the Top Ten. Then there's Blake Bortles, whom Draft Media seems to enjoy, but is considered a longer-term developmental project. It's not impossible that he drops. After Tennessee (at 11) no one needs a QB until the Jets pick. Then there's Zach Mettenberger, who could be this year's EJ Manuel--6'5, big arm, big program. Do the Jets use #18 on a QB?

 

 

Who is Kurt Cousins?

[slats]

Here's the thing with the Magic Bullet QB solution: there are none available this year. If you're talking about vet QBs that will shake loose, you're staring at...

1. Matt Schaub-- Almost guaranteed to be exiled from Houston despite a pretty fat cap number.

2. Tarvaris Jackson-- Seattle connection, starting experience. Ick.

3. Mike Vick-- Mornhinweg connection, but wants to start and could be a dick about it.

4. Kurt Cousins-- Jay Gruden went all-in on his RGIII proclamation and the Skins might decide that having Cousins around is a distraction. He played like shot down the stretch when given a chance to start, but the Skins had given up by that point. Could cost a two(?)

5. Detritus Class (McCown/Henne/Shaun Hill): You could try to catch lightning in a bottle by starting one of these journeyman types, but that doesn't help this team find a long-term starter at QB. And if they're not doing that, then they're spinning their wheels.

As for rookies, there's Bridgewater and Manziel, neither of whom is expected to get out of the Top Ten. Then there's Blake Bortles, whom Draft Media seems to enjoy, but is considered a longer-term developmental project. It's not impossible that he drops. After Tennessee (at 11) no one needs a QB until the Jets pick. Then there's Zach Mettenberger, who could be this year's EJ Manuel--6'5, big arm, big program. Do the Jets use #18 on a QB?

Yeah, I get it. I've made similar comments. There's just not much out there this year. I don't think that's going to stop Idzik from trying, though. He was in Tampa when they built around an older Brad Johnson to win a Super Bowl (that team brought in Rob Johnson, too, in the SB year), and he was in Seattle to see them trade for Whitehurst and Flynn, and draft Wilson, in search of a QB. If anything, he should have come here with some firsthand knowledge that there's more than one way to find a QB, and that it's critical to do so.

With lots of draft picks and cash at his disposal, I'd expect him to be aggressive at the position. Whether that's drafting a couple QBs, or drafting one high, or trading for one, or paying for a guy like Schaub, or some combination of these - I expect moves.

The recent articles about Rex not promising even the first reps in camp to Geno, and Cimini's piece about how no one thinks Smith should be handed the job, sound to me like they might be purposely distancing themselves from the young QB. Last week, I didn't really see it as too likely that they'd take a QB in the first round, today I'm not too sure. They don't have the ammo to move up to the top of the draft without crippling the rest of it, but if a guy (or the guy) they like drops past the top ten, maybe they make a move.

[joewillie78]

Yeah, I get it. I've made similar comments. There's just not much out there this year. I don't think that's going to stop Idzik from trying, though. He was in Tampa when they built around an older Brad Johnson to win a Super Bowl (that team brought in Rob Johnson, too, in the SB year), and he was in Seattle to see them trade for Whitehurst and Flynn, and draft Wilson, in search of a QB. If anything, he should have come here with some firsthand knowledge that there's more than one way to find a QB, and that it's critical to do so.

With lots of draft picks and cash at his disposal, I'd expect him to be aggressive at the position. Whether that's drafting a couple QBs, or drafting one high, or trading for one, or paying for a guy like Schaub, or some combination of these - I expect moves.

The recent articles about Rex not promising even the first reps in camp to Geno, and Cimini's piece about how no one thinks Smith should be handed the job, sound to me like they might be purposely distancing themselves from the young QB. Last week, I didn't really see it as too likely that they'd take a QB in the first round, today I'm not too sure. They don't have the ammo to move up to the top of the draft without crippling the rest of it, but if a guy (or the guy) they like drops past the top ten, maybe they make a move.

Hmmm, interesting point you make about IDZIK and Seattles quest for a QB, and in it you mention FLYNN. Isnt he a FA this year, and might he be on Idziks list considering the familiarity from Seattle?

[slats]

Hmmm, interesting point you make about IDZIK and Seattles quest for a QB, and in it you mention FLYNN. Isnt he a FA this year, and might he be on Idziks list considering the familiarity from Seattle?

I think that familiarity is more likely to scratch him off the list.

[Bugg]

My biggest concern with Geno before the Jets drafted him was his mental makeup, and that hasn't changed. He does not seem to respond well to adversity. On the field, you can see his mood slump with his performance, off the field he whines and wants to go home when he's not drafted in the first round. This airplane thing reeks of that same sort of immaturity.

He did finish the season decently. That was a plus. And barring a major unforeseen trade for an established starter at the position, he's earned the right to compete next year.

But yeah, the Jets need to bring in a couple QBs. I'd like to see a veteran with some starting experience who doesn't have one foot in the grave, and a genuine prospect from the draft - not some sixth or seventh round fodder. Geno should be in a battle for the starting job, and Matt Simms should be in a fight for a roster spot.

Have a friend who watches a lot of NCAA, and this was the knock on him.If it's not going his way, SMith pretty much checks out mentally. And we saw a lot of that. When he gave up an INT or made a bad play, he was moping around on the sidelines rather than talking to the coaches.ANd obviously much of his success at WV was due to Tayvon Austin, or teams overcovering Austin and creating opportunities. Frankly I don't like what I see here at all.Heard a radio interview this week with Smith and he sounded over the top confident. And there really is nothing statistically to justify that.Simply people that run their mouths and tout themselves incessantly and then fail to back it up are losers.

[Bugg]

You really can't worry about Geno's feelings. They worried about Sanchez's feelings and it ruined them.

Exactly. Staubach, Bradshaw and Phil Simms were all at some point in their careers sent to the bench. If this guy wants to whine like a bitch because he's asked to take a seat he needs to get out of the NFL. Based on last year thoguh the HC has learned nothing from the Sanchez debacle. Instead throw him out there, scare the poop out of him about turnovers, run every down and pass only when there is no other ooption on 3rd and longs and when you fall behind.

[joewillie78]

Have a friend who watches a lot of NCAA, and this was the knock on him.If it's not going his way, SMith pretty much checks out mentally. And we saw a lot of that. When he gave up an INT or made a bad play, he was moping around on the sidelines rather than talking to the coaches.ANd obviously much of his success at WV was due to Tayvon Austin, or teams overcovering Austin and creating opportunities. Frankly I don't like what I see here at all.Heard a radio interview this week with Smith and he sounded over the top confident. And there really is nothing statistically to justify that.Simply people that run their mouths and tout themselves incessantly and then fail to back it up are losers.

This was also a knock on SANCHEZ. he too would get down, mope, woe is me and the other players saw that. The good ones, especially like BRADY get pissed when they make a mistake, and cant wait to go back in there and fix it. They don't mope.

Actually, the best right now at doing that seems to be Andrew Luck. That dude can throw the worst looking pick, lambaste himself, get pissed and then go back in there and win the game. It takes a special quality in a QB to be able to overcome adversity.

Sanchez was one of the worst, and Geno seems to be following right along. We shall see.

[joewillie78]

I think that familiarity is more likely to scratch him off the list.

I don't know. I don't think FLYNN has been completely crossed off the list.