SenorGato Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 BTW for the record, I don't think Parker, White, Strong or Green-Beckham will be available when we pick in the second round and that is why I am not talking about them. My premise is that Cooper goes to the Raiders and we take either Ray, Gregory or Scherf in the first round. I think Funchess could and should still be there, but we could definitely debate whether we should go with a Duke Williams, Ty Montgomery or a Sammie Coates etc. I really don't see how we could lose with any one of them. You don't see how the Jets could lose by picking a college TE in the second round to play outside WR in the NFL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted January 19, 2015 Author Share Posted January 19, 2015 Most likely won't be available by the 6th pick in the second? I don't see that either. Lots of baggage. Sorry we talking about Green-Beckham or Funchess? We shall see; perhaps you are right. I wouldn't be surprised if Belicheck snatches Beckham up at the end of the first round.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 I'd rather DGB be there than a receiver from Meeeeecheeegaaaan. Has there ever been a successful one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Sorry we talking about Green-Beckham or Funchess? We shall see; perhaps you are right. I wouldn't be surprised if Belicheck snatches Beckham up at the end of the first round.... I would be........Oh, and use context clues.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted January 19, 2015 Author Share Posted January 19, 2015 You don't see how the Jets could lose by picking a college TE in the second round to play outside WR in the NFL? The draft is a crap shoot; anyone of those players could bust; because you refuse to see the potential in Funchess game I guess I will just defer to your superior knowledge and leave it alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted January 19, 2015 Author Share Posted January 19, 2015 You seem to have less of a clue than others. A good guess is that it's nowhere near Terrelle Owens. Not even sure it's Braylon Edwards. Resorting to insults, clever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 The draft is a crap shoot; anyone of those players could bust; because you refuse to see the potential in Funchess game I guess I will just defer to your superior knowledge and leave it alone. You should, indeed, do just that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The12th Man Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 yeah totes magotes. I see your point, and its valid. but take this---Stephen Hill, Santonio Holmes, Schilens, Evans, Clyde Gates, Jordan White, Jacoby Ford We may need a WR. But for the last 3 years and then some, WE NEEDED 4. While WR to compliment Decker would be nice, its hardly a priority. But hey man, Im not the Gm, youre not the GM, and the beauty of it is we get our points of view. Whatever happens, Im excited because we have fresh eyes all over out NYJ scout room and front office. So AMEN to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Resorting to insults, clever. You asked me if I was Owens wife earlier, you dolt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted January 19, 2015 Author Share Posted January 19, 2015 I'd rather DGB be there than a receiver from Meeeeecheeegaaaan. Has there ever been a successful one? The guy was kicked off his team and hasn't played in a year and you would rather have him? Guess what, so would I but not sure he will be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted January 19, 2015 Author Share Posted January 19, 2015 You should, indeed, do just that. I was but I see you can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The12th Man Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 BTW for the record, I don't think Parker, White, Strong or Green-Beckham will be available when we pick in the second round and that is why I am not talking about them. My premise is that Cooper goes to the Raiders and we take either Ray, Gregory or Scherf in the first round. I think Funchess could and should still be there, but we could definitely debate whether we should go with a Duke Williams, Ty Montgomery or a Sammie Coates etc. I really don't see how we could lose with any one of them. What did I just say about the cool name thing? Obviously we have to draft the DUKE DUKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 I was but I see you can't. Were you THO? How long did you try - a minute or two? Let it goooooo. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=moSFlvxnbgk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 The guy was kicked off his team and hasn't played in a year and he would rather have him? Guess what, so would I but not sure he will be there. Lol, if you agree with me, then why start your post all salty? Calm down, gent. We may yet draft the gentleman that continues the fine lineage of David Terrell and Mario Manningham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted January 19, 2015 Author Share Posted January 19, 2015 You seem to have less of a clue than others. A good guess is that it's nowhere near Terrelle Owens. Not even sure it's Braylon Edwards. What was Terrell Owens before he became "Terrell Owens". I mean I know he was the number 1 draft pick that year... wait sorry didn't he go in the THIRD ROUND??? No one knew now good Owens was going to be and that included you; I bet if someone on a forum somewhere said this kid has talent and a game that reminded them of a (name great wide receiver of your choice) I guess you have been the first to call that an insult too, lol. For the record no one said he was going to be another Terrell Owens; I am willing to bet money he will have a better career than Cumberland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted January 19, 2015 Author Share Posted January 19, 2015 What did I just say about the cool name thing? Obviously we have to draft the DUKE DUKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 I need to watch more of him to figure it out for myself, but I know some people think his hands are a pretty big issue. Of course on the flip side Kelvin Benjamin had a bunch of drops this past year but was pretty productive and everyone seems to like him. I'd love to draft one of the big WR's in the second round depending on who's available, not sure if he's the one but certainly worth keeping an eye on. Jaelen Strong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 It's an insult to Owens and over complimenting Funchess. Second round is his ceiling, in which case he's this draft's Stephen Hill.im a big fan, but he's going to be some type of hybrid. And Amaro is already that. But comparisons to Hill are unfair. He had over 100 catches the last 2 years, Hill had about 40 over his whole college career Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted January 19, 2015 Author Share Posted January 19, 2015 You asked me if I was Owens wife earlier, you dolt. More insults..., you will also noticed I put an lol which meant I was just kidding. Dude why so hostile? It ain't that serious... really. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockwave Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 We have the stud Jace Amaro in this position. I can't see another high draft pick on a guy that can't block Btw Fuchness will be a riser and not be there in round 2. We need players like him badly. We don't have anyone that could win a jump ball or could out muscle a CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted January 19, 2015 Author Share Posted January 19, 2015 Lol, if you agree with me, then why start your post all salty? Calm down, gent. We may yet draft the gentleman that continues the fine lineage of David Terrell and Mario Manningham. Sorry, didn't mean to offend; I was trying to be witty and failed. Trust me I am extremely calm at the moment lol. And you are so right; wiht our drafting history he could be Reggie Rembert all over again.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted January 19, 2015 Author Share Posted January 19, 2015 We have the stud Jace Amaro in this position. I can't see another high draft pick on a guy that can't block Btw Fuchness will be a riser and not be there in round 2. You make a very good point although I do think he will be a WR in the NFL not a TE. To your second point I totally agree; I was just hoping he might drop and give us a chance to at least consider him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 What was Terrell Owens before he became "Terrell Owens". I mean I know he was the number 1 draft pick that year... wait sorry didn't he go in the THIRD ROUND??? No one knew now good Owens was going to be and that included you; I bet if someone on a forum somewhere said this kid has talent and a game that reminded them of a (name great wide receiver of your choice) I guess you have been the first to call that an insult too, lol. For the record no one said he was going to be another Terrell Owens; I am willing to bet money he will have a better career than Cumberland. So a souped up Cumberland like I originally said? Great, still don't want that in the second round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted January 19, 2015 Author Share Posted January 19, 2015 im a big fan, but he's going to be some type of hybrid. And Amaro is already that. But comparisons to Hill are unfair. He had over 100 catches the last 2 years, Hill had about 40 over his whole college career I think they are both two very different types of players. I like Amaro but I think Funchess has a much bigger upside and is more WR than TE although he may line up in some packages as a TE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted January 19, 2015 Author Share Posted January 19, 2015 So a souped up Cumberland like I originally said? Great, still don't want that in the second round. Understood.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 We don't have anyone that could win a jump ball or could out muscle a CB. Funchess gets knocked for the lack of physicality on jump balls. The most famous catch of his career is him jumping over a CB rather than through him. Sick athlete so sure he's got a shot, but not a lot of nuance to his game. Body catcher too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Jaelen Strong? Yup. Assuming Harvin sticks around, I think that's the kind of guy the offense needs at WR. Harvin brings an element of explosiveness and YAC ability, Decker's pretty versatile but I kind of view him as a really high end possession receiver, Kerley's a really nice piece in the slot, think a big WR who can win in contested situations would round things out very nicely. Ditto goes for DGB if he falls that far, though I'm not sure if we're thinking just good character guys with the new regime. Obviously this is really early too, but that's just my general thought. Good offenses obviously have quality QB's, but those QB's make good use of the fact that they have multiple threats at WR. Much harder when defenses know who they have to key in on and who can't separate against man coverage. Green Bay's killed it with a mix of second round WR's over the years, obviously drafting well is a factor but having a stable of quality guys takes pressure off of everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Sorry, didn't mean to offend; I was trying to be witty and failed. Trust me I am extremely calm at the moment lol. And you are so right; wiht our drafting history he could be Reggie Rembert all over again.... You aren't going to offend me, short of posting pictures of Bill Belichick eating live kittens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 More insults..., you will also noticed I put an lol which meant I was just kidding. Dude why so hostile? It ain't that serious... really. . You dolt lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted January 19, 2015 Author Share Posted January 19, 2015 You dolt lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted January 19, 2015 Author Share Posted January 19, 2015 Yup. Assuming Harvin sticks around, I think that's the kind of guy the offense needs at WR. Harvin brings an element of explosiveness and YAC ability, Decker's pretty versatile but I kind of view him as a really high end possession receiver, Kerley's a really nice piece in the slot, think a big WR who can win in contested situations would round things out very nicely. Ditto goes for DGB if he falls that far, though I'm not sure if we're thinking just good character guys with the new regime. Obviously this is really early too, but that's just my general thought. Good offenses obviously have quality QB's, but those QB's make good use of the fact that they have multiple threats at WR. Much harder when defenses know who they have to key in on and who can't separate against man coverage. Green Bay's killed it with a mix of second round WR's over the years, obviously drafting well is a factor but having a stable of quality guys takes pressure off of everyone. Actually the guy I would (figuratively) cum my pants for is DGB; just don't think he will be there and if he is, the new regime may not be willing to take the risk.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Actually the guy I would (figuratively) cum my pants for is DGB; just don't think he will be there and if he is, the new regime may not be willing to take the risk.... Yeah, I'm curious to see how he weighs in. Those tall skinny WR's don't usually fare that well. Got to have some meat on those bones to be able to use height effectively to box out smaller corners and win those contested balls downfield, plus beating press, being able to handle hits and stay healthy without nagging injuries, etc. Aside from the hands and general lack of WR skills I thought Hill needed another 15 pounds or so and it would've helped a lot. DGB's a freak though and has better natural WR ability than Hill - not trying to compare the two. It's the off field stuff that's going to be key, really interested to see reports on how his interviews go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LouisvilleSlugger25 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Alot of the knocks on him are similar to the knocks on kelvin benjamin. I know many hear will cry differently but there is a reason why benjamin went late in the first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Benjamin actually played WR and didn't have to move as a rookie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted January 20, 2015 Author Share Posted January 20, 2015 I'm very interested to see who is right about this kid. I think he is going to be stud and develop into an absolute match up nightmare. He played WR this year; not TE and I believe he will be WR in the pros. I like the Benjamin comparison. Alot depends on where he ends up; he has a great upside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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