Anyone Think This Guy Makes it to Our Pick in the Second Round?

[JetBlue]

yeah totes magotes. I see your point, and its valid.

 

but take this---Stephen Hill, Santonio Holmes, Schilens, Evans, Clyde Gates, Jordan White, Jacoby Ford

 

We may need a WR. But for the last 3 years and then some, WE NEEDED 4.

 

While WR to compliment Decker would be nice, its hardly a priority.

 

But hey man, Im not the Gm, youre not the GM, and the beauty of it is we get our points of view. Whatever happens, Im excited because we have fresh eyes all over out NYJ scout room and front office. So AMEN to that.

 

Granted but it is about gauging talent rather than position.  You take the best player, preferably at a position of need but not necessarily.  It is entirely possible and even probable, that the best player on the board when we pick in the 2nd round will be a wide receiver.  If that is the case, we take the receiver. You nor I have to be the GM to appreciate that.  I only hope our GM feels the same way.

[Ken Schroy]

Maybe we could work out a trade with the Saints to get Jalen back. A 3rd rounder should do it.

[SenorGato]

Jaelen Strong?

 

Yes. Strong at the top of the second would be a sick get.

[Miss Lonelyhearts]

Sucks.

[Shockwave]

Questions for all you guys on this thread. Where are we going to talk draft? Do we do it on the main board, or side forum? Was a big fan of the Ji draft forum. 

[JetBlue]

Check this mock draft.  Look who they have us picking at 6 and look who goes to the Pats at 32; his name rhymes with Hunches....

 

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfl-draft-scout/24955790/nfl-mock-draft-tampa-bay-bucs-pass-on-qbs-at-no-1

 

 

 

The popular narrative is that the offensively-starved Tampa Bay Buccaneers have an easy choice with Oregon's Marcus Mariota as the top pick of the 2015 draft.

Clearly, the club needs help at quarterback and the Heisman Trophy winner and potential national champion would bring a needed buzz to the Bucs. So would adding local star Jameis Winston -- who is actually a better fit in new offensive coordinator Dirk Koetter's pro-style attack. Given the close proximity to campus, general manager Jason Licht and head coach Lovie Smith already know better than most what Winston brings on and off the field.

Much will change between now and April 30. For now, here's how I see the first round of the 2015 draft shaking out.

The following is my latest first round projection of the 2015 NFL Draft.

*The selection order for this mock draft is based on current win/loss records, playoff seedings and using Strength of Schedule as the tie-breaker. The Cleveland Browns own the rights to the Buffalo Bills' selection due to the Sammy Watkins trade.

1. Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- Leonard Williams, DT, Southern Cal: The Bucs could very well roll the dice on one of the quarterbacks but without a sure franchise passer available, don't be surprised if defensive minded-head coach Lovie Smith pushes for Williams, who could team with Gerald McCoy and Michael Johnson to give Tampa a fearsome front. The 6-5, 290-pound Williams has been my personal top-rated player since October. He is a physical mismatch too quick for interior linemen and too powerful for offensive tackles.

2. Tennessee Titans -- Jameis Winston, QB, Florida State: The Titans dropped their final 10 games of the 2014 season and need a long-term solution at the QB position. It is hard to imagine GM Ruston Webster looking past Winston's off-field issues but from purely a football standpoint, however, Winston projects quite well in coach Ken Whisenhunt's offense.

3. Jacksonville Jaguars -- Randy Gregory, DE, Nebraska: The Jaguars' record isn't pretty but head coach Gus Bradley's infectious enthusiasm, a hard-hitting defense and talented rookie quarterback Blake Bortles have this franchise on the upswing. Gregory is well-suited to starring in Bradley's hybrid 4-3 alignment at the LEO defensive end, as he's long (6-5, 242 pounds), explosive and passionate against both the run and pass.

4. Oakland Raiders -- Amari Cooper, WR, Alabama: Derek Carr showed flashes as a rookie of being the young signal-caller capable of turning this franchise around. Adding another weapon for him would seem like a logical choice, with Cooper ranking as one of the easier projections to the NFL due to his sharp route-running, soft hands and terrific acceleration.

5. Washington Redskins -- Brandon Scherff, OT, Iowa: Jay Gruden's success as the play-caller in Cincinnati came with one of the league's biggest offensive lines. He inherited one of the smallest in Washington and there is no question that upgrading the talent there will be an offseason priority. Not everyone sees Scherff (or any offensive lineman this year) as a top 10 talent, but he plays with the grit and physicality Washington is lacking and would be an immediate upgrade at right tackle.

6. New York Jets -- Marcus Mariota, QB, Oregon: Mariota's upside is undeniable but some worry that he may be a year away from running a traditional NFL offense. Whoever ultimately takes over as head coach will inherit Geno Smith but may consider adding to the position should Mariota still be on the board. Mariota faces legitimate questions about how he'll fare against tighter windows in the NFL, but he shows good awareness in the pocket, a live arm and, of course, great mobility.

 

 

 

Marcus Mariota may be a year away from running a traditional NFL offense. (USATSI)

 

 

 

7. Chicago Bears -- Alvin "Bud" Dupree, DE/OLB, Kentucky: For all of the concerns about Chicago's inconsistent offense, the defense remains alarmingly toothless. Given the quarterbacks in the NFC North, that's a recipe for disaster. Like Julius Peppers before him, Jared Allen proved a shadow of his former self after signing with the Bears for big money. Dupree, who led all SEC defensive linemen with 74 tackles in 2014 and is the conference's reigning career sack leader with 24.5 QB takedowns, is long, instinctive and closes in a flash.

8. Atlanta Falcons -- Shane Ray, DE/OLB, Missouri: The Falcons have the firepower on offense to compete, but lack difference-makers on the defensive front. Adding a dynamic edge rusher like Ray to complement the greater size Atlanta added to its defense in the offseason could pay immediate dividends. Playing behind 2014 second-round pick Kony Ealy and Co-SEC Defensive Player of the Year Michael Sam, Ealy did not emerge as a starter for the Tigers until the 2014 season, but he may possess the most explosive first step in the country. He led the SEC with 14.5 sacks this season.

9. New York Giants -- Landon Collins, S, Alabama: There is plenty of blame to go around in Gotham as the Giants struggled in 2014 despite an overhaul of the roster last offseason. GM Jerry Reese has won before gambling on the upside of talented pass rushers and given the exciting talent at the position this year he could roll the dice again, especially if free agent Jason Pierre-Paul leaves. Adding an intimidating presence for the secondary, however, should also be a priority.

10. St. Louis Rams -- La'el Collins, OL, LSU: The Rams boast one of the league's fastest defenses, but one-dimensional teams won't be successful in the highly competitive NFC West. With a steep drop-off at quarterback following Mariota and Winston, the Rams might be best served again rolling the dice with Sam Bradford and Shaun Hill in 2015. Massive LT Greg Robinson showed flashes of why the Rams invested the No. 2 overall selection in him in 2014 and the Rams will have veteran Jake Long returning from injury in 2015. The interior, however, was a mess for St. Louis. Collins starred at left tackle for LSU but projects best to guard. His brute strength and tenacity make him one of the draft's elite run blockers.

11. Minnesota Vikings -- Ronnie Stanley, OT, Notre Dame: Current LT Matt Kalil struggled in 2014 and the Vikings may elect to draft someone to push him. Stanley is just a redshirt sophomore in his first season at left tackle, but the 6-6, 315-pounder boasts an exciting combination of agility, balance and power. Improving at left guard would make sense, as well, especially given the deep drops and power running game offensive coordinator Norv Turner prefers.

12. Cleveland Browns -- Andrus Peat, OT, Stanford: As the only team with two first-round picks, the Browns have a lot of flexibility, including potentially making a good offensive line one of the league's elite. A star left tackle for the Cardinal, Peat is blessed with remarkable balance and agility for a man of his 6-7, 315-pound dimensions. He would provide an upgrade over Mitchell Schwartz at right tackle and could be groomed to eventually take over for perennial Pro Bowler Joe Thomas.

13. New Orleans Saints -- Dante Fowler, DE/OLB, Florida: With Junior Galette (10 sacks) and Cameron Jordan (7.5) recording more than half of the team's 34 sacks in 2014, the Saints are among the more predictable defenses in the league. That's counter to defensive coordinator Rob Ryan's philosophies. Fowler's versatility is his calling card. The 6-3, 260-pounder's unique combination of power, agility and tenacity earns him time at defensive end, linebacker and defensive tackle for the Gators.

14. Miami Dolphins -- Shaq Thompson, OLB, Washington: The Dolphins allowed an average of 121.1 yards per game on the ground in 2014. None of the teams that finished worse than Miami in this category qualified for the playoffs. Thompson starred at safety, linebacker and running back for the Huskies but projects best as a hybrid defender in the NFL. He's instinctive, athletic and a reliable open-field tackler whose game is well-suited to today's wide-open NFL.

15. San Francisco 49ers -- Dorial Green-Beckham, WR, Oklahoma: Blame Colin Kaepernick all you would like for the 49ers' offensive struggles, but his job isn't made easier with a lack of playmakers among his receiving corps. Green-Beckham is a top 10 talent who is drawing comparisons to Cincinnati Bengals star A.J. Green for his size, speed and ballskills, but he comes with significant off-field concerns. GM Trent Baalke has been more willing than most to gamble on talented players with character red flags.

16. Houston Texans -- Danny Shelton, NG, Washington: The Texans' investment in Jadeveon Clowney did not pay off in 2014, but don't be surprised when his critics quiet down once he and JJ Watt get an opportunity to play together next season. Adding a powerful - and passionate - interior presence like Shelton could help turn Houston's potential into production.

17. San Diego Chargers -- T.J. Clemmings, OT, Pittsburgh: Philip Rivers can still be dynamic when protected. San Diego's tackles King Dunlap and DJ Fluker are a lot like their quarterback - big and talented but relatively slow-footed and there has been talk that Fluker will be moved inside to guard in 2015. Clemmings is a former defensive end who has steadily improved at right tackle the past two years. With impressive length and athleticism, he boasts exciting upside.

18. Kansas City Chiefs -- DeVante Parker, WR, Louisville: Despite a receiving corps that did not catch a touchdown in 2014, the Chiefs were competitive weekly. Providing more weapons on the perimeter would seem to be a priority for Kansas City in the offseason, however, especially given that this year's crop seems very strong yet again. Dwayne Bowe is a reliable route-runner and pass-catcher but he lacks breakaway ability. Parker is a remarkably fluid athlete who, at 6-3, 209 pounds, reportedly has been clocked in the 4.4s.

19. Cleveland Browns (from Buffalo) -- Kevin White, WR, West Virginia: The Browns' defense and running game have been good enough to make them competitive, but the lack of a top-flight receiver limits the team's upside and Josh Gordon's future with the franchise is very much in doubt. No player has boosted his stock more this season than White, a 6-3, 209-pound, who climbs the ladder to make contested catches look easy.

20. Philadelphia Eagles -- Brett Hundley, QB, UCLA: Incumbent starter Nick Foles did a fine job when healthy and Mark Sanchez provided evidence that others could come in and be successful with this scheme. Neither, however, possesses the mobility at quarterback that made Chip Kelly's offense so formidable at Oregon. Given full power over personnel as part of the Eagles' recent re-structuring of the front office, Kelly is in position to make a splash on draft day.

21. Cincinnati Bengals -- Ereck Flowers, OT, Miami: Few teams reload along the line of scrimmage as consistently as the frugal Bengals and with starting left tackle Andrew Whitworth in his ninth season and the club's primary backup (Marshall Newhouse) entering the final year of his deal, Cincinnati is likely to be on the lookout for potential replacements. Flowers remains a work in progress, relying too much on his brawn and aggression and losing his composure on occasion. At 6-5, 322 pounds, however, Flowers has bloomed into one of the country's most intriguing o-line prospects.

22. Pittsburgh Steelers -- Trae Waynes, CB, Michigan State: The secondary has arguably been the Steelers' biggest weakness all season. Waynes possesses terrific length (6-1, 183 pounds), fluidity and ball-skills.

23. Detroit Lions -- Eddie Goldman, DT, Florida State: The Lions led the NFL in run defense but with starting defensive tackles Ndamukong Suh and Nick Fairley set to hit free agency, Detroit will be scouting the defensive tackle class as closely as any team in the league. The 6-4, 320-pound Goldman is powerful and surprisingly quick, making him a good fit and potentially much cheaper option in Detroit.

24. Arizona Cardinals -- Vic Beasley, OLB, Clemson: A stout front and aggressive blitzing from defensive coordinator Todd Bowles helped Arizona mask deficiencies among its edge rushers. At just 6-2, 235 pounds, Beasley doesn't possess the length and strength teams prefer on the perimeter but his explosiveness off the corner could make him an immediate impact performer.

25. Carolina Panthers -- Cameron Erving, OL, Florida State: With the selection of Kelvin Benjamin and free agent addition of sure-handed veteran Jericho Cotchery last offseason, the Panthers addressed weapons for Cam Newton but failed to improve the offensive line protecting him. They won't make the same mistake this year. The 6-5, 308 pound Erving has switched from defensive tackle to left tackle to center while with the Seminoles, boasting the length, aggression and quick feet to help immediately. 

26. Baltimore Ravens -- Jaelen Strong, WR, Arizona State: At 35, Steve Smith is a short-term fix, and Torrey Smith is a pending free agent. The aptly-named Strong has the size, power and body control to win contested passes, traits that project well in offensive coordinator Gary Kubiak's scheme.

27. Dallas Cowboys -- Marcus Peters, CB, Washington: After the initial sting of the controversial loss to Green Bay wears off, Dallas will look ahead to a 2015 draft and addressing a secondary that struggled against Aaron Rodgers and the Packers' wideouts. Peters, who was kicked off the team at Washington, comes will all kinds of character red-flags but he's also the most talented corner in the draft. Jerry Jones has never been afraid controversy.

28. Denver Broncos -- Ty Sambrailo, OT, Colorado State: There is plenty of blame to go around in Denver for a disappointing showing in the home playoff loss to Indianapolis. Sambrailo is a technically-sound brawler who would fit in nicely with the aggressive mentality John Elway and Co. are attempting to bring to Denver.

29. Indianapolis Colts -- Melvin Gordon, RB, Wisconsin: The trade for Trent Richardson didn't pay off and while the Colts have since received solid play from Dan Herron (among others), the opportunity to add a special runner like Gordon would have to be intriguing. The Heisman finalist, who rushed for a staggering 2,587 yards and 29 touchdowns in 2014, is an electric runner with breakaway speed.

30. Green Bay Packers -- Malcom Brown, DT, Texas: Given that opponents frequently run the ball in an attempt to keep Aaron Rodgers and the explosive Packers offense on the sideline, perhaps it isn't surprising that no NFC playoff contender ranks worse against the run than the Packers. The 6-4, 320-pound Brown is a stout run defender who add bulk and strength to an otherwise undersized front.

31. Seattle Seahawks -- Jordan Phillips, DT, Oklahoma: Pete Carroll and general manager John Scheider like to draft athletes with unique qualities. At 6-foot-6, 334 pounds, Phillips possesses unbelievable athleticism and the power to handle playing inside or as the five-technique. If the junior can prove his health at the Combine - he missed much of the 2013 season with a back injury that required surgery - Phillips will shoot up draft boards.

32. New England Patriots -- Devin Funchess, WR/TE, Michigan: The Patriots have been almost unbeatable since Rob Gronkowski returned to health. Complementing Gronkowski with another mismatch down the seam like the 6-5, 235 pound Funchess could make New England's offense even more formidable.

[Shockwave]

Having Mariotta drop to us would be the best thing to ever happen to us.  I can't remember the last time someone that good fell to us. 

[Jimmy IRisH]

Having Mariotta drop to us would be the best thing to ever happen to us.  I can't remember the last time someone that good fell to us.

You're kidding right? Vernon fell to us at 6. Talk about a steal

[The Troll]

Good mock. Except for that we still don't have a head coach in it and it has guys that went back to school.

[Jimmy IRisH]

Good mock. Except for that we still don't have a head coach in it and it has guys that went back to school.

And 32 won't be there because they'll lose that pick

[SenorGato]

I'm really curious to see what Dupree does this offseason.

[Greenseed4]

I'm really curious to see what Dupree does this offseason.

 

+1, He's too good to not go early.  I haven't seen him as high as 7 overall.  But I would take him before Gregory, Ray, or Fowler.

 

He's built pretty uniquely with a thick rump, and thunder thighs, but you can see the power/quickness that it provides him.  His highlights are impressive,  but check out his calisthenics routine at 0:11, he's an explosive dude.

 

http://youtu.be/TlAayCoZrR8

[Greenseed4]

In regards to a WR in the second round, I really think Justin Hardy would be a good fit.  He's pretty average in terms of size/speed ratio, but Hardy has teh OBJ hands, and the production to boot. 

 

[Patriot Killa]

In regards to a WR in the second round, I really think Justin Hardy would be a good fit. He's pretty average in terms of size/speed ratio, but Hardy has teh OBJ hands, and the production to boot.

this kid can really go up and get it. He will be a steal for any one that gets him mid 2nd or further.

[JetBlue]

In regards to a WR in the second round, I really think Justin Hardy would be a good fit.  He's pretty average in terms of size/speed ratio, but Hardy has teh OBJ hands, and the production to boot. 

 

DRAFT THIS BEAST!  Seriously, he looks pretty good; reminds me of Jericho Cotchery with a little more speed.

[JetBlue]

Good mock. Except for that we still don't have a head coach in it and it has guys that went back to school.

What can I tell ya, it was dated January 11th which was just a week ago... 

[Warfish]

Check this mock draft.  Look who they have us picking at 6 and look who goes to the Pats at 32; his name rhymes with Hunches....

 

Two comments.

 

Mariota would be a horrible pick for us IMO.  He won't fall to us because QB-deficient Tampa Bay will not pick a DT, but IF he did, we absolutely must pass on this bust-in-waiting.  He's not Pro material and isn't ready for the Pro Game.  At all.

 

Second, the Pats can afford to burn picks on questionable TE's.  They've been to six Super Bowls.  We're not so lucky, and need to stick to more traditional (i.e. needed) playmakers, not the Tebow's and the like.

 

If we're going to draft a WR, lets draft one.  Not a "hybrid" who might suit the Pats specific system, but not the Jets far-more-traditional (and QB deficient) system under Chan or whomever.

[SenorGato]

http://mattwaldmanrsp.com/2015/01/14/futures-michigan-tewr-devin-funchess/

The most immediate response that I have to the question Is Devin Funchess a wide receiver or tight end? is actually a question: Can he succeed at either?

I haven’t seen enough to provide a definitive opinion on Funchess (I’ll eventually deliver in April), but I have seen enough to say that having doubts about Funchess making a smooth transition to the NFL is a valid question.

Funchess has the potential to play either role, but the luminescence of those common threads that differentiate the game of an all-around “football player” from a mere prospect — awareness, physicality, and integrated technique — are not lighting up in Funchess’ game.

There are also enough plays on tape to wonder if Funchess can get big enough to become a move tight end. If he does, will he have the athleticism to become an NFL mismatch?

Another question that arises: how physically and technically capable is Funchess of developing into an every-down perimeter receiver? I’m not sold on his perimeter speed.

Fortunately, there’s also a scenario where both answers could be negative and he still develops into a productive weapon in the league. Graham, Marques Colston, Jordan Matthews, Kelvin Benjamin, Jordan Reed, and Jarvis Landry have provided ample evidence that a prospect can have clear limitations as an athlete and technician and still thrive in the right offense.

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/futures/2015/futures-michigan-wrte-devin-funchess

I'm still not sold on where I'd try Funchess in an offense. He's too light for tight end at this point, but I only see the fluid athleticism on routes that are best for tight ends or slot men. He holds his own better against slower safeties or smaller slot defenders than he does cornerbacks unafraid to play him physically. I lean towards agreeing with Michigan's decision to use him more as a receiver, and the clearest role ahead is a combination of what Carolina and Philadelphia do with Kelvin Benjamin and Jordan Matthews. I like both options more than Funchess at this point.

This examination of Funchess highlights a point that many in the evaluation arena understand, but don't communicate well to fans and media: many prospects taken in the second, third, and fourth rounds are "will-do" options. The expectation is that they'll get the job done for hopefully two to four years, and then the team will move on to the next guy. While teams hope prospects develop into integral, hard-to-replace components of a team, the baseline expectation is that they are temporary stopgaps.

If you're being realistic and not just listening to an anonymous NFL executive feeding the media pre-draft excrement, Funchess is a promising contributor taken in the first half of the NFL Draft and not an early-round superstar-in-the-making.

[SenorGato]

Almost the exact same thoughts...I considered Funchess as slot WR for a second, it's where he looks even a little natural as a WR, but he's not skilled enough. Really needs work.

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Hardy is alright, not sure as a 2nd THO. I usually like ECU players.

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Hoping the injury forces Parker down to the second or Strong sneaks by. While I think guys like Ty Montgomery and Funchess are interesting, they just aren't finished enough products to take so high. I see them as round 3-5 guys.

[JetBlue]

http://www.landgrantholyland.com/2014/11/28/7301625/ohio-state-michigan-devin-funchess

Devin Funchess displayed his elite athleticism and playmaking skills in The Game last season by catching four passes for 41 yards and a touchdown. He is an every bigger mismatch this season, standing at 6'5, 230 pounds starting at wide receiver rather than tight end and gaining Jimmy Graham and Kelvin Benjamin comparisons. Funchess has been hampered by an ankle injury all season that he suffered in week two versus Notre Dame and he has not been the same since. But, he is still the Wolverine's most talented player on offense, and he will have to be accounted for throughout the game.

Even fighting through injury, Funchess has still managed 54 receptions on 97 targets, which equals 34% of the Michigan quarterback targets this season. When looking at his situational statistics, it shows that the coaching staff tries to get him involved early, with 24 of his 54 receptions coming in the first quarter. It is worrisome that his production significantly tails off as the game goes on, as he has caught 13 passes in the second quarter, 10 in the third quarter and only eight passes in the fourth quarter. This could be a result of Michigan being out of most of the games by the second half, but with this most likely being his last game as a Wolverine, I fully expect a Funchess to make an impact.

Since the first two games of the season, I do not feel that Funchess has been used properly. He is a major size mismatch for opposing secondaries because he is too fast for a linebacker to cover him and too big for most defensive backs. But he is rarely used in the downfield passing game, whether it would be in the seams or on the outside. New offensive coordinator Doug Nussmeier uses him on screens and short to intermediate routes. It does make sense to get the ball in his hands quickly to make plays after the catch but his size and body control would allow him to win jump balls versus smaller defensive backs, like this play against Notre Dame: (picture not shown)

Here is where a few draft sites rank him

1. Amari Cooper | 6'1, 210 pounds | WR | Alabama * 2. Kevin White | 6'3, 210 pounds | WR | West Virginia 3. DeVante Parker | 6'3, 211 pounds| WR | Louisville 4. Jaelen Strong | 6'3, 212 pounds | WR | Arizona State * 5. Devin Funchess 6’5, 230 pounds | WR | Michigan * 6. Dorial Green-Beckham | 6’6, 225 pounds | WR | Oklahoma * 7. Rashad Greene | 6'0, 180 pounds | WR | Florida State 8. Duke Williams | 6'2, 216 pounds | WR | Auburn * 9. Sammie Coates | 6'2, 201 pounds | WR | Auburn * 10. Nelson Agholor | 6'1, 190 pounds | WR | Southern California *

 

 

  2015 DRAFTTEK BIG BOARD - Ranked by Position
Wide Receivers (Feature)
Most Recent Revision:  1/14/2015
QB Center OG LOT ROT TE RBF RBC WRF WRS FB DE43 DE34 DT43 DT34 OLB43 OLB34 ILB SS FS CB PK
Big Ten SEC PAC 12 Big 12 ACC Mtn West C USA Sun Belt AAC MAC

1 (4)   -1 Alabama
Amari Cooper
Jr          6'1"          205 #9
BIO
-- 2 (13) +5 Louisville
DeVante Parker
Sr          6'2"          209 #9
BIO
-- 3 (19)   0 West Virginia
Kevin White
Sr          6'3"          209 #11
BIO
-- 4 (23)   -1 Michigan
Devin Funchess
Jr          6'5"          235 #87
BIO
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RANK PLAYER POS. POS. RANK SCHOOL CLASS HT. WT. PROJ. ROUND 4 *Amari Cooper WR 1 Alabama Jr 6-1 210 1 13 Kevin White WR 2 West Virginia Sr 6-3 210 1 16 DeVante Parker WR 3 Louisville Sr 6-3 209 1 23 *Dorial Green-Beckham WR 4 Oklahoma rJr 6-5 225 1 25 *Jaelen Strong WR 5 Arizona State rJr 6-3 215 1 27 *Sammie Coates WR 6 Auburn rJr 6-2 213 1-2 32 *Devin Funchess WR 7 Michigan Jr 6-5 230 1-2 47 Josh Harper WR 8 Fresno State rSr 6-1 189 2 56 *Nelson Agholor WR 9 Southern California Jr 6-1 190 2 62 Justin Hardy WR 10 East Carolina Sr 5-11 190 2 69 Tyler Lockett WR 11 Kansas State Sr 5-10 181 2-3 74 Rashad Greene WR 12 Florida State Sr 6-0 180 2-3

 

Most draft gurus have him in the top 10 WRs in the draft.  You will notice he is listed as a WR, NOT a TE.  He will NOT be a TE in the NFL at least not in the traditional sense, his position is WR.  Whether we take him or not (assuming he is there).  I don't see him lasting past the 2nd round.  

[SenorGato]

Is being injured all season a good thing?

[JetBlue]

Is being injured all season a good thing?

I don't know why not ask Devante Parker; He only played in 7 games but no one seems to have a problem with that. Funchess played hurt and still performed. A better question might be how would he have done if he was healthy.  I like this quote, "standing at 6'5, 230 pounds starting at wide receiver rather than tight end and gaining Jimmy Graham and Kelvin Benjamin comparisons. "  Funny I didn't see any mention of Jeff Cumberland, lol; just kidding.  Truthfully I have no idea how good this guy will be on the next level but I am very intrigued by him.  We can go back and forth until the cows come home.  Lets just let things play out and see who is right about him. 

[SenorGato]

Parker is a better WR than Funchess. Graham has 2 inches and 40+ pounds on him. Benjamin is actually a WR rather than playing one during draft season.

[Dcat]

didnt we take another rare wide recieving talent in the second round one time?

 

 

 

 

Yes.  Wesley Walker was drafted in the 2nd round.

 

But so were Stephen Hill, Reggie Rembert, Ryan Yarborough and Alex Van Dyke. It has been a very long time since the Jets hit anything close to good for WRs in round 2.

[JetBlue]

Parker is a better WR than Funchess. Graham has 2 inches and 40+ pounds on him. Benjamin is actually a WR rather than playing one during draft season.

 

So the fact he was hurt and missed most of the season is okay but Funchess playing on a bad ankle and still having a good season is dismissed by you? Lol, you are really dialed in my friend.  Graham and Benjamin comparisons was made by the writer not me so I am not the only one who recognizes the kind of talent he has.  In fact the majority of the draft experts think he will be a 1st or 2nd round pick; you don't think he is worth that; I get it, no problem.   

 

You are entitled your opinion and I respect it; Please respect mine.  Can we agree to disagree? Only time will tell how good he will be.   If I am wrong about him I will be the first to admit it.   Will you do the same?   

[JetBlue]

Yes.  Wesley Walker was drafted in the 2nd round.

 

But so were Stephen Hill, Reggie Rembert, Ryan Yarborough and Alex Van Dyke. It has been a very long time since the Jets hit anything close to good for WRs in round 2.

Yeah the second round has not been kind to the Jets when it comes to WRs...  

[SenorGato]

So the fact he was hurt and missed most of the season is okay but Funchess playing on a bad ankle and still having a good season is dismissed by you? Lol, you are really dialed in my friend.  Graham and Benjamin comparisons was made by the writer not me so I am not the only one who recognizes the kind of talent he has.  In fact the majority of the draft experts think he will be a 1st or 2nd round pick; you don't think he is worth that; I get it, no problem.   

 

You are entitled your opinion and I respect it; Please respect mine.  Can we agree to disagree? Only time will tell how good he will be.   If I am wrong about him I will be the first to admit it.   Will you do the same?   

 

What? What I actually said is that Parker is better at being a WR than Funchess is, which matters a whole lot more than playing hurt. The writer making those comparisons is also being hacky. Even then,  in that same article:

 

Funchess has had trouble fighting off press coverage and any contact in general,

 

 

This is a 6'5" 230 pound *sarcasticquotes* wide receiver *sarcasticquotes*...and he's talking about press coverage from a DB.

[win4ever]

I'm a Michigan fan, and no, I'm not even sure I take this kid in the second round.  That team had absolutely no weapons, so he got force fed the ball at times, similar to how Gallon got a ton of catches the year before.  The team was basically, run it as much as possible, and then throw a lob to first guy you see in your team colors.   He also is most effective as the slot WR, which is what Amaro does when he's split out wide, so in that sense he's redundant.  

 

If we're going WR in the second, I'd rather take someone like Jalen Strong or even Sammie Coates over Funchess.  

 

However, if Funchess had stayed at TE, it would've been way more helpful, but he's not.  And as a WR, he's too big of a risk, with what I consider is limited upside to take the gamble.  

 

 

[JetBlue]

I'm a Michigan fan, and no, I'm not even sure I take this kid in the second round.  That team had absolutely no weapons, so he got force fed the ball at times, similar to how Gallon got a ton of catches the year before.  The team was basically, run it as much as possible, and then throw a lob to first guy you see in your team colors.   He also is most effective as the slot WR, which is what Amaro does when he's split out wide, so in that sense he's redundant.  

 

If we're going WR in the second, I'd rather take someone like Jalen Strong or even Sammie Coates over Funchess.  

 

However, if Funchess had stayed at TE, it would've been way more helpful, but he's not.  And as a WR, he's too big of a risk, with what I consider is limited upside to take the gamble.  

 

Good point regarding the slot, but that might also have been the lack of imagination of his OC.  I see what you are saying regarding TE but I think his best position in the NFL will be WR, I really do.   I think he has just started to scratch the surface at the position.

 

I also can't argue with you regarding Coates or Strong.  I don't expect Strong to drop that far but Coates might be there.  I would have no problem taking him instead of Funchess.  I like his deep speed; he could be a game breaker (still pretty raw).

[win4ever]

Good point regarding the slot, but that might also have been the lack of imagination of his OC.  I see what you are saying regarding TE but I think his best position in the NFL will be WR, I really do.   I think he has just started to scratch the surface at the position.

 

I also can't argue with you regarding Coates or Strong.  I don't expect Strong to drop that far but Coates might be there.  I would have no problem taking him instead of Funchess.  I like his deep speed; he could be a game breaker (still pretty raw).

 

I think he has a ton of potential, sort of like a poor man's Kelvin Benjamin, but I'm not sure about his burst off the line, and how well he tracks the balls.  

 

The offense there was horrible, because they tried to mimic the Alabama offense, but didn't have nearly as good a running game nor OL.  And the QBs were horrible, so it's hard to see what his real potential is.  But I think in a spread, we could use guys that are big and fast, so the other two options just seem better to me.  I'd love to see what Funchess runs at the combine.  If he was still at TE, it would've actually worked out great, because we could've done the 2 TE look with Amaro/Funchess and really have a versatile offense. 

[Rep]

He had Devin Gardner as his QB and Brady Hoke as his coach.  I think he's a very good talent who will drop in the draft because of the dumpster fire that was Michigan last year.  I'd take him in an instant in the 2nd.

[JetBlue]

He had Devin Gardner as his QB and Brady Hoke as his coach.  I think he's a very good talent who will drop in the draft because of the dumpster fire that was Michigan last year.  I'd take him in an instant in the 2nd.

Depending on who else is available in the 2nd when we pick. so would I.