T0mShane Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 The Jets are going to have $50 mil in cap space. Why would they even consider screwing around with someone like Mike Williams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 The Jets are going to have $50 mil in cap space. Why would they even consider screwing around with someone like Mike Williams? Because, man, 2010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Likely to be an $8 mil dollar difference in salary...that much difference in talent/production? That much need to add the same type of player? Let's get Crabtree in here. We need a solid Z option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBallhawk Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Yes let's go cheap at receiver, with $50 mill in cap. On someone with a chance to be the next David Nelson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Looks like some people are suggesting the Jets should avoid bargains because they have cap room. Hmmm, I wonder how teams get in cap trouble to begin with...smh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 The Jets are going to have $50 mil in cap space. Why would they even consider screwing around with someone like Mike Williams? I've always liked low risk/high reward moves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 As camp fodder? Not much. This...not suggesting a deal any real money tied up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Are you even old enough to have a job? Have you ever worked with someone that destroyed the moral of the entire office? Seriously, that is Harvin and Williams. The Jets have enough problems without clowns that dont buy into anyone else's program but their own. This is a simple concept. The Seahawks players all said the reports of Harvin being a locker room cancer were either untrue or exaggerated. He and Wilson just didn't have the on field chemistry it happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Yes let's go cheap at receiver, with $50 mill in cap. On someone with a chance to be the next David Nelson. Terrell Owens and Chad Ochocinco are available. Low risk high reward les geddem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patman Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Blount was a desperation signing in November, when this former teammate's sudden availability was a perfect fit their in-season need at RB due to injury. It's just different than the Jets signing a player they don't know firsthand. Also if we're only looking to sign him to a vet minimum type deal we won't be the only intrigued team. But IMO we don't have the QB requisite to entice young, physically gifted (and previously successful) WRs to come here for a cheap, show-me type deal. Not unless literally no one else shows any interest. You understand that Jonas Gray just ran for 200 yards the week before. Desperate is not accurate. I don't understand the reluctance to bring him in. The team has a need, His contract will probably be along the lines of 1 year 2mill with 1/4 mill SB. Having him on the roster is not going to preclude the jets passing up talented WR in the draft, He is cheap insurance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 I think right now we should consider everyone, do I think he would be a good fit for our team? probably not. but it would be silly not to consider every option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 You understand that Jonas Gray just ran for 200 yards the week before. Desperate is not accurate. I don't understand the reluctance to bring him in. The team has a need, His contract will probably be along the lines of 1 year 2mill with 1/4 mill SB. Having him on the roster is not going to preclude the jets passing up talented WR in the draft, He is cheap insurance. Not my point. The Indy game, where they had to feed the ball nearly 40x to one inexperienced/non-stellar RB, is an example of a team that BADLY NEEDS to add a RB to its roster if they want a ground attack that can last another 8 games through the superbowl. They had the position/roster spot available, even if Blount was to only be a short yardage/goal line specialist or to give Gray a blow or for mop up duty or just in case Gray got injured. Also, against certain opponents they might feel the 1-dimensional Blount was just a better matchup. Teams need more than 1 RB capable of feeding carries to, and Vereen's a receiver/3rd down back who BB only seemed comfortable giving maybe 5-10 sporadic handoffs. Further, they were already familiar with Blount, who stepped in right away against GB (10 carries, 58 yds) while Gray was given only 1 carry way at the end of the 3rd quarter even though he was coming off the game of his life. I don't think they necessarily brought him back, initially, to be their full time feature back. Rather, they were short a RB with Ridley having been gone for weeks. Giving Jonas Gray 37 carries and expecting him to repeat it ever again is unrealistic. While they were probably giddy with his 37-carry performance that week, a smart coach knows it's unsustainable and he's risking the team losing him and then all they have left is Vereen. The week before, even in a rout against Denver, when those holes weren't there both Gray & Vereen each got like 30 yards on a 11-12 carries. But with less than 1 week of practice after signing Blount, Belichick saw what he needed to see: he immediately made Blount the starting RB over Gray for the remainder of the season. I'd think you would know all this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 The Jets are going to have $50 mil in cap space. Why would they even consider screwing around with someone like Mike Williams? Agree we need to be done with the Matthew Hatchettes Chaz Schillens David Nelsons Clyde Gates theres a reason we haven't won anything in 46 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Terrell Owens and Chad Ochocinco are available. Low risk high reward les geddem If you think those guys are "high reward" at this point then there's not much need for discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Agree we need to be done with the Matthew Hatchettes Chaz Schillens David Nelsons Clyde Gates theres a reason we haven't won anything in 46 years Which of those players had anywhere near the level of success Williams had when healthy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Now that the loss is in, one could argue that Seattle should have brought him in for a look-see. Not suggesting there's any certainty (or likelihood) it would have helped them, but it would have been a fit for both at the time. Seattle gets an upgrade to their #5 WR at worst, and if his head was on straight for a month and a half then Williams could have really helped his future prospects. Better chance of numbers for him than catching passes from Geno Smith would be in 2015, if his attitude even allowed him to make the opening day roster. If he wouldn't cause problems in a reduced/non-starting role - big if, it seems - we could do worse skill-wise for at least a #5 WR. It's not that simple, though, as it seems he'll cause trouble if/when he's not starting or not seeing enough passes thrown his way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 I'd consider Williams, but not until after the draft. This is a pretty good draft for WR's and I don't think a lot of teams will be rushing to give Williams a monster deal. If the draft doesn't fall right for the Jets, I'd bring him in and see what kind of money he's talking about. if he can be signed fairly cheap, why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 I'd consider Williams, but not until after the draft. This is a pretty good draft for WR's and I don't think a lot of teams will be rushing to give Williams a monster deal. If the draft doesn't fall right for the Jets, I'd bring him in and see what kind of money he's talking about. if he can be signed fairly cheap, why not? Pretty much what I was thinking. Depending on what he's asking for I'd even look at bringing him in now. If he has his head on straight and plays to his full potential he's a huge addition. If he's a waste of time you can move on. The fact that he was traded for close to nothing, benched, and released would make me think he'd be humbled and willing to take a deal loaded with incentives/light on guaranteed money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Pretty much what I was thinking. Depending on what he's asking for I'd even look at bringing him in now. If he has his head on straight and plays to his full potential he's a huge addition. If he's a waste of time you can move on. The fact that he was traded for close to nothing, benched, and released would make me think he'd be humbled and willing to take a deal loaded with incentives/light on guaranteed money. Dude is about to get thrown out of his second organization in three years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Dude is about to get thrown out of his second organization in three years. Yep...exactly why you bring him in for cheap and cut bait if this experience hasn't humbled him. Lots to gain, nothing to lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 I've noticed you in a lot of posts have a hate for Percy, after he got traded all of his teammates gave him support and those reports of him being a bad teammate were never justified. Aside from the fight with him and Golden Tate (who was the antagonizer apparently and they let him go to FA), there was nothing else reported. He never caused a stirrup here, why are you so against him? To be clear, I'm not advocating that we keep Percy. Money is the reason he'll be cut, not because he's a "monumental jerk". What were his teammates supposed to say? They all took the high road. Donovan McNabb took the high road too after Terrell Owens decided one year of good behavior was enough and it was time to destroy the Eagles locker room. I despise Harvin. He is bad news. He is worse news for a rebuilding team with a first time head coach. My sentiments towards him are the same as Warfish. Overpaid, injury-prone, glorfied bubble screen receiver that fraudently poses as a deep threat... and has a really bad attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Double post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJets Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 What were his teammates supposed to say? They all took the high road. Donovan McNabb took the high road too after Terrell Owens decided one year of good behavior was enough and it was time to destroy the Eagles locker room. I despise Harvin. He is bad news. He is worse news for a rebuilding team with a first time head coach. My sentiments towards him are the same as Warfish. Overpaid, injury-prone, glorfied bubble screen receiver that fraudently poses as a deep threat... and has a really bad attitude. Comparing TO and harvin is apples and oranges. You're basing your harvin hatred off of one fight he had with his teammate (that wasn't reported until 9 months later) that was never even completely justified. I just think you're overreacting about his character a little too much. Guy is an NFL WR whose only 26, it could be WAY worse, like say, TO. You really have no reason to despise him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Comparing TO and harvin is apples and oranges. You're basing your harvin hatred off of one fight he had with his teammate (that wasn't reported until 9 months later) that was never even completely justified. I just think you're overreacting about his character a little too much. Guy is an NFL WR whose only 26, it could be WAY worse, like say, TO. You really have no reason to despise him. Pretty much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Comparing TO and harvin is apples and oranges. You're basing your harvin hatred off of one fight he had with his teammate (that wasn't reported until 9 months later) that was never even completely justified. I just think you're overreacting about his character a little too much. Guy is an NFL WR whose only 26, it could be WAY worse, like say, TO. You really have no reason to despise him. I am basing it off of his track record going back to HIGH SCHOOL. Punching a teacher in the cafeteria. Being suspended from athletics in VA. Having more problems at UF. And having two teams in the NFL that couldnt wait to wash their hands of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJets Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Pretty much I laughed at the original. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJets Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 I am basing it off of his track record going back to HIGH SCHOOL. Punching a teacher in the cafeteria. Being suspended from athletics in VA. Having more problems at UF. And having two teams in the NFL that couldnt wait to wash their hands of him. Regardless, hasn't caused anything here. And the trade from seattle here was more money-driven than anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 I laughed at the original. I smirked for a sec...funny, but I'd rather keep things on track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Regardless, hasn't caused anything here. And the trade from seattle here was more money-driven than anything Exactly...they have a ton of money to account for with so many stars that they have to extend. Harvin was the odd man out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 The "basing it off one event" accusation is so wrong it is scary. Think about what the Seahawks gave up to Minnesota for Harvin. Do you have any idea how bad he has to be for them to be willing to release Harvin outright after that trade? They would have cut him if the Jets didn't make an offer... or the Hawks didn't call Idziot to unload him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJets Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Exactly...they have a ton of money to account for with so many stars that they have to extend. Harvin was the odd man out there. Schneider is a smart man.. If he's more than willing to bring back Marshawn for big money, I think he was okay with Harvin being there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Regardless, hasn't caused anything here. And the trade from seattle here was more money-driven than anything Wow. You are a total fool if you think Seattle dealing him was about money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJets Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 The "basing it off one event" accusation is so wrong it is scary. Think about what the Seahawks gave up to Minnesota for Harvin. Do you have any idea how bad he has to be for them to be willing to release Harvin outright after that trade? They would have cut him if the Jets didn't make an offer... or the Hawks didn't call Idziot to unload him. He wasn't being used enough for the lot he was still due. So, the Seahawks traded him to a team that needed a wide receiver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJets Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Wow. You are a total fool if you think Seattle dealing him was about money. That's all it was about. If it was about a 'fight' 9 months earlier, why would they wait 9 months when they could have unloaded him right after the super bowl and gotten a 2/3 round pick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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