Gas2No99 Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 Patrick Peterson: Jets' Darrelle Revis 'still a shutdown corner' Is Jets cornerback Darrelle Revis still one of the best in the league? The evidence seems to suggest that he is. (Paul Sancya | AP) By Dom Cosentino | NJ Advance Media for NJ.com Is Jets cornerback Darrelle Revis in decline? Cardinals cornerback Patrick Peterson doesn't think so. "Still a shutdown corner, in my opinion," Peterson said of Revis, per USA Today. Revis, who turns 31 next week, has taken heat for not being some kind of Super Corner after his return to the Jets in 2015. It's partly a function of the $39 million in guaranteed money he signed on for. But the criticism makes it seem as though Revis had never before been beaten for touchdowns, or that the rules instituted in 2014 that place a greater emphasis on flagging contact after five yards haven't made the task of pass coverage more difficult. Revis did get smoked last year by the Texans' DeAndre Hopkins, and he gave up nearly 100 yards in coverage in that gut-punch loss to the Bills at the end of the season, according to Pro Football Focus. The Jets were zone-heavy in that Bills game, however, and head coach Todd Bowles later said a lot of what went wrong that day wasn't entirely Revis' fault. There were also a few occasions in which receivers had Revis beaten, only to have the quarterback miss his target. Oh, and Revis played nearly the entire season with a wrist injury he never reported, but that was still severe enough to surgery after the season ended. It's still unclear if Revis will be healthy when training camp begins in three weeks. Still, though: Lowest 2015 completion percentage allowed by CBs (min 60 targets) 1. Darrelle Revis, 46.5 2. Patrick Peterson, 47.7 3. Richard Sherman, 48.4 — Pro Football Focus (@PFF) June 29, 2016 Also: Lowest NFL QB rating against for CBs last season: 1. @J_No24, 54.0 2. @Trujohnson2, 55.0 3. @Revis24, 56.5 4. @QRollins2, 58.4 — Pro Football Focus (@PFF) June 23, 2016 Peterson didn't elaborate to USA Today on the subject of Revis, but he did weigh in on who he thought was the top cornerback in the league. "At the end of the day, I know I'm the best," Peterson said. "I know I can get in the face of the receiver and I mean much more to my team versus those guys to their team." Who's the best corner in the NFL is a debate for another time, though. Bowles has said more than once since the end of last season that he still thinks Revis is an elite-level corner. Peterson seems to agree. There's enough evidence out there to suggest they're not wrong. Dom Cosentino may be reached at dcosentino@njadvancemedia.com Revis is not what he was as a CB and opposing #1 WRs are only getting FASTER with each passing season; Revis will be more effective as a FS in 2-3 years if he decides to extend his playing career as long as physically possible at a RESPECTABLE level (the D'Brick school of thought). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 More like has a shutdown contract that works against the Jets!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 There is no argument. Revis is a shutdown corner. Slow and out of place LB play really hurt the Jets last season. The Eagles and Bills took advantage of those factors. With more looks coming from the Front 7 teams will not look at 24 much this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 There is no argument. Revis is a shutdown corner. Slow and out of place LB play really hurt the Jets last season. The Eagles and Bills took advantage of those factors. With more looks coming from the Front 7 teams will not look at 24 much this season. Revis was a shutdown corner. Not anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 12 minutes ago, PatsFanTX said: Revis was a shutdown corner. Not anymore. Everyone gets older. But Revis has maintained his level of cornerbacking better than you've maintained your level of trolling, so we have that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 Everyone gets older. But Revis has maintained his level of cornerbacking better than you've maintained your level of trolling, so we have that. I can still troll DeAndre Hopkins and Sammy Watkins. Revis can't cover them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 16 minutes ago, PatsFanTX said: Revis was a shutdown corner. Not anymore. If you watched the games last year that was obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 22 minutes ago, PatsFanTX said: Revis was a shutdown corner. Not anymore. All told, per PFF, Revis was targeted five times and gave up three catches for 47 yards—a pretty good day personally, even if the team result http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2015/10/how_did_darrelle_revis_return_to_foxborough_go_in.html Game 2 http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/look-tom-brady-gets-stranded-on-revis-island-with-rob-gronkowski/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 If you watched the games last year that was obvious. Yep, and the Jets are paying him $17MM to boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 1 minute ago, PatsFanTX said: Yep, and the Jets are paying him $17MM to boot. A great way to kill your cap. And the total deal is for over 70 with 39 guaranteed. And front loaded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 Peterson is right. Anyone getting overly critical regarding the games against Houston (Hopkins) and the Bills (Watkins), both games Revis was injured in is in fact overly critical. Not taking away from either from those WR's. I think Hopkins would have had somewhat of a similar outcome because he's a beast like that, no matter who's the defender. But Watkin's week 17 performance was purely based on the fact that Revis had that wrist injury and couldnt press because of it, and since he couldnt press to slow Watkins down or mess out the route timing he HAD to play off coverage to respect Watkins speed. Good job by the offensive coordinator of the Bills to recognize the defensive hole and taking advantage of it. The rest of the season Revis was the typical shutdown corner. Not elite as in his prime, but shutdown nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 A great way to kill your cap. And the total deal is for over 70 with 39 guaranteed. And front loaded. Do you know if Revis cut his salary in half for the good of the team, Fitz would already be signed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 Peterson is right. Anyone getting overly critical regarding the games against Houston (Hopkins) and the Bills (Watkins), both games Revis was injured in is in fact overly critical. For crying out loud, Revis had a little boo-boo on his wrist. It's not like he was playing with a pulled hammy or strained ACL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 1 minute ago, PatsFanTX said: Do you know if Revis cut his salary in half for the good of the team, Fitz would already be signed. Hell would freeze over before he would do that. They are afraid to ask him just to restructure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saul Goodman Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 Though he was very good, Revis wasn't the best corner in the league in 2016. But he's still the best corner in league. He's going to frustrate the **** out of receivers this year and it's going to be awesome to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 7 minutes ago, PatsFanTX said: Do you know if Revis cut his salary in half for the good of the team, Fitz would already be signed. FYI: Being able to troll Rangers doesn't earn you many troll points, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 20 minutes ago, slats said: FYI: Being able to troll Rangers doesn't earn you many troll points, either. We're having a discussion. In this case I agree with him. He needles our team, yeah. And a lot of message boards wouldn't tolerate it. That's a JN decision. But insulting the guy imo is out of line. You can put him on ignore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 FYI: Being able to troll Rangers doesn't earn you many troll points, either. Nah, me and Rangers9 are tight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 41 minutes ago, Rangers9 said: We're having a discussion. In this case I agree with him. He needles our team, yeah. And a lot of message boards wouldn't tolerate it. That's a JN decision. But insulting the guy imo is out of line. You can put him on ignore. Good post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 38 minutes ago, PatsFanTX said: Nah, me and Rangers9 are tight. Hey. No personal attacks!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetscrazey Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 A healthy Revis may still be the best corner in the league. We'll see this year...I don't think Norman is a true man-to-man CB, and Sherman only plays one side. Peterson is really good but I'm not sure if he's better than a healthy Revis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 A healthy Revis may still be the best corner in the league. Revis hasn't been the best CB in the league since 2010. He is nowhere near the best CB in 2016, not even close. So his little wrist boo-boo was the reason he got torched by Hopkins and Watkins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 27 minutes ago, jetscrazey said: A healthy Revis may still be the best corner in the league. We'll see this year...I don't think Norman is a true man-to-man CB, and Sherman only plays one side. Peterson is really good but I'm not sure if he's better than a healthy Revis. I agree. Last year he was hampered with a groin and wrist injury and was still one of the best CBs in football. Lets see what he does this season, I'm optimistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetscrazey Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 13 minutes ago, PatsFanTX said: So his little wrist boo-boo was the reason he got torched by Hopkins and Watkins? You obviously have never played CB at any level. A wrist injury prevents jamming. That is a game-changer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 You obviously have never played CB at any level. A wrist injury prevents jamming. That is a game-changer. How the hell do you jam when you are always giving a 10-yard cushion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 I don't really see how any Jets fan could defend that Revis contract. It is way over what other CBs get in term of guaranteed money. And if Mac is such a tough negotiator how come he "caved in" to Revis' demands on his first day of free agency. His play is not up to that standard anymore. It was before his injury but not now. Every player is banged up and plays injured in the NFL. So if you're on the field no excuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 5 hours ago, PatsFanTX said: I can still troll DeAndre Hopkins and Sammy Watkins. Revis can't cover them. You a troll? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 You a troll? That's what I'm told. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 14 minutes ago, Rangers9 said: I don't really see how any Jets fan could defend that Revis contract. It is way over what other CBs get in term of guaranteed money. And if Mac is such a tough negotiator how come he "caved in" to Revis' demands on his first day of free agency. His play is not up to that standard anymore. It was before his injury but not now. Every player is banged up and plays injured in the NFL. So if you're on the field no excuses. And on the other hand, Mac sucks because he's not signing Fitz to the contract he wants. Lol. Someday, Ryan Fitzpatrick will visit the Revis exhibit in the Pro Football HoF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetfan39 Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 38 minutes ago, PatsFanTX said: How the hell do you jam when you are always giving a 10-yard cushion? you give a 10 yard cushion because your wrist is hurt and you can't jam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 you give a 10 yard cushion because your wrist is hurt and you can't jam Hogwash. Revis was terrified getting beat deep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 51 minutes ago, slats said: And on the other hand, Mac sucks because he's not signing Fitz to the contract he wants. Lol. Someday, Ryan Fitzpatrick will visit the Revis exhibit in the Pro Football HoF. Revis not Fitz is my all time favorite Jets player but he's no longer an elite shut down corner anymore. Idzik did a great job trading him and getting excellent compensation for an injured player and not "caving in" and giving him that kind of a deal. But that Mac contract is stupid and killed our cap. Revis will get into the HOF and probably Fitz will visit Canton to see him. No kidding he's not going to see himself, nobody ever said he was. They're not in the same category as players obviously. But in 2015 Fitz was more valuable to the Jets than Revis was. And Revis wants him back. Something that you guys don't do is to listen to what the players are saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetscrazey Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 1 hour ago, PatsFanTX said: How the hell do you jam when you are always giving a 10-yard cushion? Ever consider that he was giving the cushion because he couldn't get a good jam? You probably didn't because as I said you probably haven't played CB at any level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 2 minutes ago, Rangers9 said: And Revis wants him back. Well yeah, of course. Revis is getting older. Practices are much easier for a CB if the QB can't throw more than 20yds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 33 minutes ago, PatsFanTX said: Hogwash. Revis was terrified getting beat deep. He's better than anyone in the Patriots secondary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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