56mehl56 Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 12 hours ago, long suffering jets fan said: In almost 45 years the man had a spotless record. It is reported that an alleged Sandusky victim told him something was going on and was rebuffed. The charge was never proven, yet he was tried in the press and they continue to tear him down. This is the state of the media in this country, don't let due process stand in the way of a good story. I agree that it would be easier for the Penn State Paterno devotee's to just drop it, but I think they believe a misjustice was done here. So your saying probably the most powerful man at Penn State especially when it involved anything to do with that football team didn't know what was going on - umm okay. He tried to cover for a friend , a friend that turned out to be a despicable man which in my eyes makes both of them despicable . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 Here's a crazy idea: don't commemorate the 50th anniversary of his first coached game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 Seriously - **** this school and anyone who thinks this is a decent idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 13 hours ago, long suffering jets fan said: Why? Because I believe in the law and that people shouldn't be tried in the media. Plenty of people went and reported Sandusky's crimes to the authorities, so I don't believe that was the case here. The case against Joe Paterno however is just heresay. I hope that if something about you that is untrue gets out in the media that you'll have an opportunity to defend yourself. so in your mind, the authorities knew, but Joe didn't ? I could post all the damning evidence to dispute you but its too dark and creepy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no psls Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 Perv = Sandusky ; ignoring Perv = Paterno = worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASH1962 Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 Sandusky just looks like the filthy animal that he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 On 9/3/2016 at 7:35 AM, Kleckineau said: He died without a chance to explain clarify or defend himself. We will never know for certain what he did or didnt know. Whether he was complcit or not his name unfortunately will always evoke bad memories of PSU football. Does Brady know BB cheats?? He knew.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 On 9/3/2016 at 7:35 AM, Kleckineau said: He died without a chance to explain clarify or defend himself. We will never know for certain what he did or didnt know. Whether he was complcit or not his name unfortunately will always evoke bad memories of PSU football. Thatsbeing kind. Clearly he knew something was going on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDKostempski Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 13 hours ago, long suffering jets fan said: Why? Because I believe in the law and that people shouldn't be tried in the media. Plenty of people went and reported Sandusky's crimes to the authorities, so I don't believe that was the case here. The case against Joe Paterno however is just heresay. I hope that if something about you that is untrue gets out in the media that you'll have an opportunity to defend yourself. Do you think that the police in State College -- in the entire state of PA -- would NOT have gone to Joe Paterno FIRST with information that one of his assistants had been accused of a sex crime? I'm not much of a conspiracy theorist, but I think that the cover up of these allegations went far beyond the PSU athletics department. I think that a lot of important and powerful people chose to ignore rumors or evidence that pointed to trouble at PSU over the years. I think a number of these same people actually knew what was going on and kept silent about it. Maintaining the reputation and prestige of Penn State, especially of its legendary football program and coach, was more important than people's lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 12 minutes ago, HDKostempski said: Do you think that the police in State College -- in the entire state of PA -- would NOT have gone to Joe Paterno FIRST with information that one of his assistants had been accused of a sex crime? I'm not much of a conspiracy theorist, but I think that the cover up of these allegations went far beyond the PSU athletics department. I think that a lot of important and powerful people chose to ignore rumors or evidence that pointed to trouble at PSU over the years. I think a number of these same people actually knew what was going on and kept silent about it. Maintaining the reputation and prestige of Penn State, especially of its legendary football program and coach, was more important than people's lives. if you read the unsealed court documents and testimony under oath, they all say they heard about abuse but didn't see it directly. Opponents even heard about it. I'm sure recruits knew. Joe ran that town. 0.00% chance the authorities knew and he didn't. 0.00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 Freeh report The report by a special investigative group headed by former FBI director Louis Freeh had been commissioned by the Penn State Board of Trustees. After interviewing over 400 people and reviewing over 3.5 million documents, the crux of the report's findings, which were released July 12, 2012, state: Taking into account the available witness statements and evidence, the Special Investigative Counsel finds that it is more reasonable to conclude that, in order to avoid the consequences of bad publicity, the most powerful leaders at the University — Spanier, Schultz, Paterno and Curley — repeatedly concealed critical facts relating to Sandusky's child abuse from authorities, the University's Board of Trustees, the Penn State community, and the public at large.[98] that's some sloppy journalism right there. Poor Joe. He is the victim if you think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaJetsFan Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 And yet - a bunch of you Catholics still go to mass every Sunday and contribute when they pass the hat. Hypocrite much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaJetsFan Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 51 minutes ago, Larz said: so in your mind, the authorities knew, but Joe didn't ? I could post all the damning evidence to dispute you but its too dark and creepy. Say the same about the Pope, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 5 minutes ago, FloridaJetsFan said: And yet - a bunch of you Catholics still go to mass every Sunday and contribute when they pass the hat. Hypocrite much? Why do people feel like they have to falsely equivocate terrible actions with other terrible actions? Does that make you feel less terrible about either situation? It serves no purpose at all. It's actually fairly unintelligent and lacks empathy for the victims of either situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 5 minutes ago, FloridaJetsFan said: Say the same about the Pope, no? what does that have to do with anything ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaJetsFan Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 14 minutes ago, Larz said: what does that have to do with anything ? It has to do with the demonization of PSU and the inherent hypocracy of those who throw stones at PSU, but still attend Catholic mass weekly. It was (and in the Catholic Church's case - may very well still be) institutionalized acceptance and covering up actions by a smarmy few. That's not to say Pope John Paul actually had first hand knowledge of wrong doing, but he's the head guy of that institution. I'm not a Penn State grad or fan, but I see alot folks bashing them for actions that occurred long ago and whatever you may "think" Joe may or may not have known, the same could be said about the Catholic religion. Just trying to give, what I think, is a very similar situation for perspective - that's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaJetsFan Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 21 minutes ago, CrazyCarl40 said: Why do people feel like they have to falsely equivocate terrible actions with other terrible actions? Does that make you feel less terrible about either situation? It serves no purpose at all. It's actually fairly unintelligent and lacks empathy for the victims of either situation. Sorry to have offended you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 What a disgrace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 11 minutes ago, FloridaJetsFan said: Sorry to have offended you. Didn't offend me. I'm not Catholic nor a victim of abuse. Your inane rhetoric offends victims of the perpetrated crimes. Apologize to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 40 minutes ago, FloridaJetsFan said: It has to do with the demonization of PSU and the inherent hypocracy of those who throw stones at PSU, but still attend Catholic mass weekly. It was (and in the Catholic Church's case - may very well still be) institutionalized acceptance and covering up actions by a smarmy few. That's not to say Pope John Paul actually had first hand knowledge of wrong doing, but he's the head guy of that institution. I'm not a Penn State grad or fan, but I see alot folks bashing them for actions that occurred long ago and whatever you may "think" Joe may or may not have known, the same could be said about the Catholic religion. Just trying to give, what I think, is a very similar situation for perspective - that's all. look into the FBI report. it is not my opinion. he knew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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