PepPep Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 17 hours ago, Tinstar said: You will incur the ire of some if you continue this path . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 I was suggesting that Pryor be our deion Buchanan two years ago before Lee was drafted. Nice to see Bowles trying to catch up to intent morons like myeslf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 12 hours ago, Gas2No99 said: Jets Chat: Can Calvin Pryor be the Jets' Deone Bucannon? The Jets used their first-round NFL Draft pick on LSU safety Jamal Adams. They then took another safety -- surprisingly -- in the second in Florida's Marcus Maye. The Jets also have Calvin Pryor under contract for (at least) one more season. So... what now? If there's anyone qualified to find a way to make all three work seamlessly together, it's Jets coach Todd Bowles. He's the mastermind behind the hybrid linebacker/safety position played by the Cardinals' Deone Bucannon. In Arizona, they call it the "money linebacker." Bucannon plays near the linebackers, but does the job routinely asked of safeties or defensive backs. He'll cover backs and tight ends on passing plays, then use his agility to evade blockers to make plays on running ones. He's a dynamic weapon on defense. Since the Cardinals drafted him in 2014, Bucannon has 286 tackles, five sacks, four forced fumbles, four fumble recoveries and one interception in 45 games. He had his best season in 2015 when he recorded 112 tackles, three sacks, two forced fumbles and a pick. Pryor has some similar athletic traits to Bucannon. Could he potentially be the Jets' money backer next year if they don't trade him? That was one of the many topics discussed on this week's Jets Chat. Check the video out below. Sounds like probably he will, yeah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 18 hours ago, RoadFan said: Wrong. Pryor is not useful in any situation. Whenever he is on the field, QB eyes get wide. They cannot wait to audible to a play to take advantage of either his bad angles on something like a stretch running play.. or of course, any formation that will isolate him in coverage. He is AWFUL. Does not belong in the NFL. What does it take for some of you to get this through your heads? Better than 50/50 he doesn't even make the roster as some camp body or UDFA beats him out in training camp. But enough about Hackenberg....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 10 hours ago, varjet said: The great irony of Pryor was that he was drafted before Clinton-Dix. It was one of Idzik's great undoings, as anyone who understood how the NFL is currently played (more passing, more penalties) would have preferred Clinton-Dix. Or Brandin Cooks or Kelvin Benjamin or Derek Carr or Teddy Bridgewater or Dee Ford or ...like 5 other guys before they drafted Jace Amaro who worked out really well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 54 minutes ago, JiF said: Or Brandin Cooks or Kelvin Benjamin or Derek Carr or Teddy Bridgewater or Dee Ford or ...like 5 other guys before they drafted Jace Amaro who worked out really well. Well at least we have a GM now who won't neglect offense to draft 2 Strong Safeties in the first two rounds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 11 hours ago, varjet said: The great irony of Pryor was that he was drafted before Clinton-Dix. It was one of Idzik's great undoings, as anyone who understood how the NFL is currently played (more passing, more penalties) would have preferred Clinton-Dix. Or Brandon Cooks who should have been the pick . 4 years later, the cheaters are parading Cooks off as their 2017 1st round pick and the Jets are drafting 2 WRs and hoping . Calvin Pryor was a terrible pick, but it was what Rex Ryan wanted and what he got . In the NFL today, you can't intimidate anyone anymore, you have to out think them and have players capable of executing what you come up with . Rex was a good thinker, but he thought up solid schemes and drafted players who he thought would intimidate, but not execute . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Saw this stat about Pyror's career so far in today's paper. In 44 games, two INT's and 2 F.F. Those are mind-numbing numbers. Some of the top guys do that in a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 20 hours ago, section314 said: Saw this stat about Pyror's career so far in today's paper. In 44 games, two INT's and 2 F.F. Those are mind-numbing numbers. Some of the top guys do that in a week. The scary thing is we just drafted two strong safeties whose strengths are supposedly Forced Fumbles. That was the big deal about Pryor in the 2014 draft too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 1 hour ago, thadude said: The scary thing is we just drafted two strong safeties whose strengths are supposedly Forced Fumbles. That was the big deal about Pryor in the 2014 draft too But Pryor doesn't and didn't play zone coverage, tackle or pursue the ball carrier NEARLY as good as Adams/Mayes does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 3 hours ago, Patriot Killa said: But Pryor doesn't and didn't play zone coverage, tackle or pursue the ball carrier NEARLY as good as Adams/Mayes does. What concerns me about Adams is 95% of his big highlight plays in college are all against the run. He'll be great in run support but the NFL is all about passing. Same story the last 7 years the Jets are always a top 5 rush defense but basically any JAG Qb can throw for 400 yards on us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, thadude said: What concerns me about Adams is 95% of his big highlight plays in college are all against the run. He'll be great in run support but the NFL is all about passing. Same story the last 7 years the Jets are always a top 5 rush defense but basically any JAG Qb can throw for 400 yards on us. Adams also has tremendous ball hawk ability. He has the secondary IQ to slip into that FS spot and play naturally. I seen a few interviews where he stated he really prides himself on that versatility to play the pass too. I think he's a cornerstone on this D in the way Leo is. Mayes doesn't have to make any permanent switch or struggle in transition because Adams is the guy can is more capable to do so. I'm sure Bowles will create some packages where they switch out and I think that's something really unique and crucial to have in this league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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