Smizzy Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 Lenny P,done deal. ESPN NEWS!! Jets Send a draft pick to Washington for QB Patrick Ranmsey. what pick do you think it is?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 Leeny P,done deal. ESPN NEWS!! Another bust of a QB? Do the Jets ever learn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 Another bust of a QB? Do the Jets ever learn? PatsFanTx you getting your new material ready Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BwanaZulia Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 Another bust of a QB? Do the Jets ever learn? Nope, just like Max hasn't learned to ban you. BZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Instant Karma Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 Another bust of a QB? Do the Jets ever learn? You forgot the obligatory .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted March 17, 2006 Author Share Posted March 17, 2006 Dear Atlanta, Shove Matt Schaub & your low ball offer up your ass. You have zero leverage now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 PatsFanTx you getting your new material ready Locked and loaded faba. Ramsey, DFat & Nugent alone should keep me going for a few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verde Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 Another bust of a QB? Do the Jets ever learn? I had to check the post date on this because I really thought I was reading a thread from last week! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted March 17, 2006 Author Share Posted March 17, 2006 http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2372804 Finally completing a trade that had been rumored for weeks, the New York Jets on Friday afternoon acquired quarterback Patrick Ramsey from the Washington Redskins for a sixth-round choice in the 2006 draft, ESPN.com has learned. Patrick Ramsey Quarterback Washington Redskins Profile 2005 SEASON STATISTICS Att Comp Yds TD Int Rat 25 15 252 1 1 95.3 Given the uncertainty over the availability of Chad Pennington, who is rehabilitating from a second rotator cuff surgery five months ago, the Jets considered a variety of options for bolstering their quarterback depth chart. As recently as earlier Friday, the Jets were still in discussions about a trade that would have brought them Falcons backup quarterback Matt Schaub in a deal that would have sent three-time Pro Bowl defensive end John Abraham to Atlanta. The Jets and Falcons continued on Friday to explore other formulas for completing an Abraham trade. Ramsey, the Redskins' first-round pick in the 2002 draft, but relegated to reserve status behind Mark Brunell for all but one game in '05, had been sought by several other teams as well. He met last week with Jets officials, including first-year head coach Eric Mangini, but also visited with Tampa Bay officials and was being pursued by Cincinnati. The Miami Dolphins and Detroit Lions also demonstrated interest. A few weeks ago, Washington was said to be seeking a second- or third-round pick in return for Ramsey, but the Redskins subsequently reduced their asking price. The Jets, until Friday, has been offering a No. 7 draft choice for Ramsey. New York coaches feel confident, after doing extended research on Ramsey, that he is a starting-caliber quarterback in the league. If Pennington is unable to play at the outset of the season, Ramsey likely will be the starter. The Jets could still use the fourth overall choice in the first round to select a quarterback, but adding Ramsey eliminates the urgency to do so and provides New York more flexibility in the lottery. Ramsey, 27, has a 10-14 record as a starter. He has completed 480 of 861 passes for 5,649 yards with 34 touchdown passes, 29 interceptions and a 75.0 quarterback rating. A year or two ago, when it became obvious that coach Joe Gibbs' staff wasn't enamored of Ramsey, the Redskins would almost certainly have commanded a higher price for the former Tulane star. But Washington failed to pull the trigger on a deal, when Sexton could have brought them several suitors. Gibbs sold Ramsey on the notion he would compete for the starting job, then went out and invested a 2005 first-round pick on Auburn quarterback Jason Campbell. Ramsey started the '05 season opener, was pulled in favor of Brunell at halftime, and didn't log another start the rest of the season. The poor handling of the situation contributed to the fact that Washington had to settle for far less in Friday's trade. Even at a reduced rate, though the Redskins likely had to deal Ramsey or release him, since he had finally become frustrated by his status. The Redskins also needed the salary cap space that Ramsey's departure gives them. The Jets inherit Ramsey's existing contract, which has just one season remaining, at a base salary of $1.668 million for 2006 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 Dear Atlanta, Shove Matt Schaub & your low ball offer up your ass. You have zero leverage now. I think we acquired Ramsey to trade to Atlanta so they have a replacement for Schaub. So if we could, it becomes Schaub & 2(15) for Abe & 6(3). If Ramsey secures a 2nd-rounder instead of a 3rd rounder from Atlanta it's worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 A 6th rd pick? HA! F##k you alk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verde Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 I think we acquired Ramsey to trade to Atlanta so they have a replacement for Schaub. So if we could, it becomes Schaub & 2(15) for Abe & 6(3). If Ramsey secures a 2nd-rounder instead of a 3rd rounder from Atlanta it's worth it. Wow. If that happens Sperm, kudos to you for calling it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 I woulda guessed 5th & i'd a been happy. I think getting ramsey & giving up a 6th is a great deal for the jets. woulda preferred shaub though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BwanaZulia Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 A 6th? That is like trading away Dick Curl at this point. Please. BZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Finally! Thank god! No more Schaub BS. It's Ramsey time baby!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneEyedWonder Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 Even though is 6th is not much of anything, why not wait and try to get Joey Harrington or even Aaron Brooks for nothing?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verde Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 Even though is 6th is not much of anything, why not wait and try to get Joey Harrington or even Aaron Brooks for nothing?? Nothing for a nothing. They both schtink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunta_23 Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 Dear Atlanta, Shove Matt Schaub & your low ball offer up your ass. You have zero leverage now. I thought the whole reason behind not trading Schaub for Abe was the fact that they dont want to trade Schaub at all.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERJET Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 College Career As a senior in 2001 Ramsey started 11 games, completing 256 of 448 passes (57.1%) for 2,935 yards and 22 touchdowns. His 2,935 yards rank third on the Tulane season-record list behind his own 3,410 yards in 1999, and Shaun King Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaumerJet Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 Dear Atlanta, Shove Matt Schaub & your low ball offer up your ass. You have zero leverage now. Jets | Ramsey acquired for 2006 draft pick Fri, 17 Mar 2006 12:03:54 -0800 Len Pasquarelli, of ESPN.com, reports the Washington Redskins have traded QB Patrick Ramsey to the New York Jets for a 2006 sixth-round pick. There's 4 sides to this: We took Ramsey to either force Atlanta into giving us Schaub & an '07 pick for Abe. We took Ramsey BECAUSE Atlanta would only offer us their #1 in '06 & a pick in '07 based on Abe's work in '06. We took Ramsey because the Atlanta Deal fell through & we intend to mount a trade with New Orleans that would give us the #2 pick in the draft & Matt Lienert. We took Ramsey due to Atlanta offering us only their #1 in '06 & a pick in '07 based on Abe's work in '06 - We use their pick (#15) & ours (#4) to trade with New Orleans #2 pick & Take Matt Lienert as our NEW FRANCHISE QB. Please understand, it will cost us the #4 [1800] Pick value points + #15 [1050] to equal the #2 overall [2600] total Pick Value Points. And I know - SO THEY GET AN ADDITIONAL 250 Points in the trade, That is equal to an early 3rd rounder but, we would have to package all of our picks this year, just to keep one of the 1st rounders & that would be a mistake! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BwanaZulia Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 Good and now we can get a nice solid 1st rounder for Abe and pick up some serious O-line in the draft. BZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 the chances of a 6th rounder even making a team is low- we got a QB that maybe we can turn around and is still young with a good arm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxJet Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 Jets | Ramsey acquired for 2006 draft pick Fri, 17 Mar 2006 12:03:54 -0800 <A href="http://www.kffl.com/link/17">Len Pasquarelli, of ESPN.com, reports the Washington Redskins have traded QB Patrick Ramsey to the New York Jets for a 2006 sixth-round pick:Typotux: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 There's 4 sides to this: We took Ramsey to either force Atlanta into giving us Schaub & an '07 pick for Abe. We took Ramsey BECAUSE Atlanta would only offer us their #1 in '06 & a pick in '07 based on Abe's work in '06. We took Ramsey because the Atlanta Deal fell through & we intend to mount a trade with New Orleans that would give us the #2 pick in the draft & Matt Lienert. We took Ramsey due to Atlanta offering us only their #1 in '06 & a pick in '07 based on Abe's work in '06 - We use their pick (#15) & ours (#4) to trade with New Orleans #2 pick & Take Matt Lienert as our NEW FRANCHISE QB. Please understand, it will cost us the #4 [1800] Pick value points + #15 [1050] to equal the #2 overall [2600] total Pick Value Points. And I know - SO THEY GET AN ADDITIONAL 250 Points in the trade, That is equal to an early 3rd rounder but, we would have to package all of our picks this year, just to keep one of the 1st rounders & that would be a mistake! cutler time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 Good. Now lets go with D'Brick at 4 and trade Abraham to either Denver, Seattle, or Detroit for their 1st round pick since Atlanta is too cheap to give up there's...unless of course we can get their 2nd round pick and their 1st next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raffyD Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 Great job by the FO, only giving up a 6th round pick for Ramsey is righteous! :cheers: :cheers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 I think we acquired Ramsey to trade to Atlanta so they have a replacement for Schaub. So if we could, it becomes Schaub & 2(15) for Abe & 6(3). If Ramsey secures a 2nd-rounder instead of a 3rd rounder from Atlanta it's worth it. if the jets can pull that off it would be a great start to the mangini/tannenbaum regime. they would have minimum 4 day 1 picks to build the team the rest of the team. i really like how they don't tip their hand and don't get fleeced a la bradway. a 6th rd pick for ramsey is a steal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 yick i hope this guy dosn't have to play many snaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted March 17, 2006 Author Share Posted March 17, 2006 I thought the whole reason behind not trading Schaub for Abe was the fact that they dont want to trade Schaub at all.... The Atlanta Falcons would be fools not to trade Matt Schuab. All he is gonna do is rot behind Vick untill he walks away and they get nothing. They have so much money invested in Vick...Schuab will never get any PT unless he gets hurt. If we just got a backup QB(1st rd pick) for a 6th rd pick and the lions are cutting guys like Joey harrington. Matt schuab's value is only that high in the ATL FO. They want someone to offer a 1st for him. Nobody is that stupid. Let him rot on their roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 The Atlanta Falcons would be fools not to trade Matt Schuab. All he is gonna do is rot behind Vick untill he walks away and they get nothing. They have so much money invested in Vick...Schuab will never get any PT unless he gets hurt. If we just got a backup QB(1st rd pick) for a 6th rd pick and the lions are cutting guys like Joey harrington. Matt schuab's value is only that high in the ATL FO. They want someone to offer a 1st for him. Nobody is that stupid. Let him rot on their roster. Lamont Jordan the Sequel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raffyD Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 The Atlanta Falcons would be fools not to trade Matt Schuab. All he is gonna do is rot behind Vick untill he walks away and they get nothing. They have so much money invested in Vick...Schuab will never get any PT unless he gets hurt. If we just got a backup QB(1st rd pick) for a 6th rd pick and the lions are cutting guys like Joey harrington. Matt schuab's value is only that high in the ATL FO. They want someone to offer a 1st for him. Nobody is that stupid. Let him rot on their roster. Well said. An article on ESPN.com essentially said the same thing, that Schaub's value will never be higher than now. I think the same was written about Ramsey 2 years ago when the Skins wanted a 1st or 2nd for him and looking back they end up getting a 6th for a former 1st rounder. So not so much Lamont Jordan Sequal but rather I think the birds will end up like the Skins did just now. Could we possibly still trade for Schaub AND keep Ramsey??? Every one of our QB's would be pissed if that happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunta_23 Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 The Atlanta Falcons would be fools not to trade Matt Schuab. All he is gonna do is rot behind Vick untill he walks away and they get nothing. They have so much money invested in Vick...Schuab will never get any PT unless he gets hurt. If we just got a backup QB(1st rd pick) for a 6th rd pick and the lions are cutting guys like Joey harrington. Matt schuab's value is only that high in the ATL FO. They want someone to offer a 1st for him. Nobody is that stupid. Let him rot on their roster. The Cowboys gave the Texans a 3rd round pick for Drew Henson...and he wasnt even playing football at the time...I could potentially see the Falcons getting a 2nd rounder for Schaub if they decide to put him on the block. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 yick i hope this guy dosn't have to play many snaps. Yeah, too bad we didn't sign Aaron Brooks. Gotta say I love this trade, obviously. The Atlanta Falcons can blow me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raffyD Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 I was right about the Skins screwing themselves with Ramsey and I think Atlanta is doing the same with Schaub. From espn: "A year or two ago, when it became obvious that coach Joe Gibbs' staff wasn't enamored of Ramsey, the Redskins would almost certainly have commanded a higher price for the former Tulane star. But Washington failed to pull the trigger on a deal, when agent Jimmy Sexton could have brought them several suitors. Gibbs sold Ramsey on the notion he would compete for the starting job, then went out and invested a 2005 first-round pick on Auburn quarterback Jason Campbell. " Keep holding out birds, you can't keep the kids from wanting to play and that's what it's all about! Let them play, let them play! So now we trade Abe + Ramsey + 4th (Herm) to Atlanta and we get Schaub and their #1. Or, we do like everyone else has said and call the birds and tell them to go f themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted March 17, 2006 Author Share Posted March 17, 2006 **** Atlanta. Let Schaub rot over there and don't give them Abe either.They want Abe? give us 15 or suck it. Open up and say AHHHHH atlanta! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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