nycdan Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 It's all still rumor and even if not, it's more likely just negotiating stance (re: Deebo and Bosa) but I would really NOT like to see him end up in the AFC (unless, of course, it's with the Jets). Thoughts on this so far: 1) I'd HATE to see him on BUF, but I don't think they have the draft capital to pull it off anyway, unless they use this year's #28 and next year's 1st, which would be a lot, although I'm not sure they wouldn't consider it. The bigger problem for them is cap space. He will want a monster contract and they just don't have anywhere near enough room right now. 2) The other suitor being discussed is PIT. They could start looking like a good team if Wilson turns things around and they land a WR like Aiyuk. Would turn the AFCN into an absolute blender, which would be kind of fun to watch. 3) NYG certainly have need. But the cost for them to trade in-conference would high and they also have cap problems. And they can certainly get a WR with that 6-pick anyway. 4) Just to get this out of the way, I think anyone would gladly trade our #10 for Aiyuk, but I see NO way we could manage it under the cap unless we contorted the deal to backload almost all of the cap. I don't think that's going to make a lot of sense. I'd rather trade up and grab one of the top-3 WRs with that 10 pick. 5) The team at the top of the available cap list - NE - certainly needs a WR. #3 is almost certainly reserved for a QB pick so they would be starting from #34 and would have to throw in a LOT more to get it done, but I could see it being of interest there. Again, I'd rather not. I expect it to go nowhere and result in a new deal for Aiyuk in SF, but something to keep an eye on. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby816 Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 He’s a player. And a good one. So he’ll of course be in our division. BUF I could see making a move for him. Possibly even NE 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post derp Posted April 14 Popular Post Share Posted April 14 If I’m SF I’d trade Deebo and pay Aiyuk. But it is interesting. The Jags should be all over this. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 Hard to see Pittsburgh choose to pay a receiver. Bills should be desperate for this deal. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets and Redskins Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 I would watch Arizona if the don't take MHJ. Aiyuk played for Asu and they need a Wr. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted April 14 Author Share Posted April 14 3 minutes ago, Jets and Redskins said: I would watch Arizona if the don't take MHJ. Aiyuk played for Asu and they need a Wr. Good one. They could probably trade down a bit and still use that pick to get him (plus whatever else they can score on the trade). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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derp Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 26 minutes ago, Jets and Redskins said: I would watch Arizona if the don't take MHJ. Aiyuk played for Asu and they need a Wr. 20 minutes ago, nycdan said: Good one. They could probably trade down a bit and still use that pick to get him (plus whatever else they can score on the trade). I'd think SF would rather not move him within the division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets and Redskins Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 25 minutes ago, derp said: I'd think SF would rather not move him within the division. I think that would be what would stop that trade. Cards have two first rd picks this year 27 and 4. They have cap room so if not Aiyuk they could go after Higgins or Jefferson if available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 Aiyuk is on the last year of his deal. Matt O'Leary suggested we could trade 10 for 31 & Aiyuk. I'd be all over that if it were actually an option. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83Kelly2Allen18 Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 6 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: Aiyuk is on the last year of his deal. Matt O'Leary suggested we could trade 10 for 31 & Aiyuk. I'd be all over that if it were actually an option. I'm not giving up ten this year. Not when I can get a better wr or te Not giving up any future firsts either. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83Kelly2Allen18 Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 2 hours ago, T0mShane said: Hard to see Pittsburgh choose to pay a receiver. Bills should be desperate for this deal. I don't like this at all if Buffalo does what I'm thinking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 26 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: Aiyuk is on the last year of his deal. Matt O'Leary suggested we could trade 10 for 31 & Aiyuk. I'd be all over that if it were actually an option. So we lose 21 spots in the draft and have to pay Aiyuk big money immediately when we know full well we're going to have to pay that great rookie class from 2 years ago soon? Why not just draft a WR at 1.10 and have him on a rookie contract? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 Aiyuk is really good. The chances of a WR at 10 being better than him are pretty low. I know they're good prospects, but prospects are prospects. If you could get Aiyuk and Guyton, Morgan, Haynes at 31, that would be a nice first round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 2 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: So we lose 21 spots in the draft and have to pay Aiyuk big money immediately when we know full well we're going to have to pay that great rookie class from 2 years soon? Why not just draft a WR at 1.10 and have him on a rookie contract? For one we don't know that any of the top 3 will be there at 10. Second, Aiyuk is really good now. A rookie WR might need time to get up to NFL speed and may never be as good as Aiyuk. We're in a short win now window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83Kelly2Allen18 Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 1 minute ago, TuscanyTile2 said: So we lose 21 spots in the draft and have to pay Aiyuk big money immediately when we know full well we're going to have to pay that great rookie class from 2 years soon? Why not just draft a WR at 1.10 and have him on a rookie contract? Bingo. The jets can draft a stud wr or te at ten, get the future ot later and more wr depth. Then after the draft trade for Aiyuk or Adams. D. Adams/ Gibson G. Wilson/ Pearsall* M. Williams/ Lazard Bowers*/ Conklin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83Kelly2Allen18 Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 1 minute ago, Barry McCockinner said: For one we don't know that any of the top 3 will be there at 10. Second, Aiyuk is really good now. A rookie WR might need time to get up to NFL speed and may never be as good as Aiyuk. We're in a short win now window. Thomas jr has a much higher ceiling and ability than Aiyuk. But ppl disagree and have different opinions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rhg1084 Posted April 14 Popular Post Share Posted April 14 With these WRs contracts so out of control I can’t help to think one of these guys coming out on a rookie deal is more valuable than Ayiuk. Trade up for Nabers/Harrison and have 5 years of control instead of paying $30m a year for Ayiuk. 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 15 minutes ago, 83Kelly2Allen18 said: I don't like this at all if Buffalo does what I'm thinking What are you thinking? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets and Redskins Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 19 minutes ago, 83Kelly2Allen18 said: I don't like this at all if Buffalo does what I'm thinking I think the problem for buffalo is cap space. He would be a problem in buffalo I was thinking Buffalo would go for Thomas Jr but I think he goes before pick 15 now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 12 minutes ago, 83Kelly2Allen18 said: Thomas jr has a much higher ceiling and ability than Aiyuk. But ppl disagree and have different opinions. a lot of guys have high ceilings and never reach them. maybe one day he'll be better than Aiyuk. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy 2 Times Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 1 hour ago, Barry McCockinner said: For one we don't know that any of the top 3 will be there at 10. Second, Aiyuk is really good now. A rookie WR might need time to get up to NFL speed and may never be as good as Aiyuk. We're in a short win now window. We already have Wilson and Williams. The rookie will have time to adjust. It's really a top 4 and one of them will be there at ten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83Kelly2Allen18 Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 1 hour ago, Jets and Redskins said: I think the problem for buffalo is cap space. He would be a problem in buffalo I was thinking Buffalo would go for Thomas Jr but I think he goes before pick 15 now. Buffalo has an insane amount of cap next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83Kelly2Allen18 Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 1 hour ago, T0mShane said: What are you thinking? Buffalo trades up for one of the top 4 wrs and then trades for Aiyuk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicketybam Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 1 minute ago, 83Kelly2Allen18 said: Buffalo trades up for one of the top 4 wrs and then trades for Aiyuk Using Monopoly money? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 1 minute ago, 83Kelly2Allen18 said: Buffalo trades up for one of the top 4 wrs and then trades for Aiyuk Can they do both? I think Aiyuk costs them a two-plus, and a trade-up to ~12 costs them a 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 1 hour ago, Barry McCockinner said: Aiyuk is on the last year of his deal. Matt O'Leary suggested we could trade 10 for 31 & Aiyuk. I'd be all over that if it were actually an option. Tyreek freakin Hill garnered less than that. Cmon now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 16 minutes ago, Jimmy 2 Times said: We already have Wilson and Williams. The rookie will have time to adjust. It's really a top 4 and one of them will be there at ten. Williams 29 coming off ACL and hopes to be ready for week 1. Williams looks like he's going to get folded in half every time he's carrying the ball in traffic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 1 hour ago, 83Kelly2Allen18 said: Thomas jr has a much higher ceiling and ability than Aiyuk. But ppl disagree and have different opinions. Aiyuk is an elite route runner who has proven himself in the league. BT is a 1y wonder at LSU who ran gos and hitches. The Bills spending their 1st rounder on BT would be a win for the Jets and rest of division. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 14 minutes ago, Barton said: Tyreek freakin Hill garnered less than that. Cmon now. The Jets should not be in the market for Aiyuk. #10 is off limits. He is going to demand a massive extension. Just move up for MHJ, Nabers or Odunze and get your WR1 at controlled cost for the next 5y. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83Kelly2Allen18 Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 29 minutes ago, bicketybam said: Using Monopoly money? Draft picks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83Kelly2Allen18 Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 29 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Can they do both? I think Aiyuk costs them a two-plus, and a trade-up to ~12 costs them a 1. Yup. It's very feasible and it's why I keep saying that if Douglas passes on one of the top 5 weapons at ten for an offensive lineman then he's clueless. It could be a situation where we literally let Buffalo get Thomas jr and that's extremely dumb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83Kelly2Allen18 Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 21 minutes ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said: Aiyuk is an elite route runner who has proven himself in the league. BT is a 1y wonder at LSU who ran gos and hitches. The Bills spending their 1st rounder on BT would be a win for the Jets and rest of division. No it wouldn't dude. Buffalo getting Thomas jr and adding Aiyuk is an absolute nightmare. ( I'm hoping they don't trade up or they just get one guy, not both) We need to hope and possibly position ourselves to block Buffalo from getting one of the top 4 wrs. If we get Bowers, that will also get Thomas jr picked sooner so buffalo can't get him. Or at least reduce the chance buffalo gets him... I would take Thomas jr over not just Aiyuk but many wrs starting in the NFL right now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 20 minutes ago, 83Kelly2Allen18 said: No it wouldn't dude. Buffalo getting Thomas jr and adding Aiyuk is an absolute nightmare. ( I'm hoping they don't trade up or they just get one guy, not both) We need to hope and possibly position ourselves to block Buffalo from getting one of the top 4 wrs. If we get Bowers, that will also get Thomas jr picked sooner so buffalo can't get him. Or at least reduce the chance buffalo gets him... I would take Thomas jr over not just Aiyuk but many wrs starting in the NFL right now. I wouldn’t want them to get Aiyuk. Aiyuk is good. You are responding to something I never said. I don’t care if they get BT. I think he has a WR2 ceiling, and that’s if he develops properly. I have little fear of him beating Sauce or DJR or anyone else as a rookie. Aiyuk is a proven, known commodity. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicketybam Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 29 minutes ago, 83Kelly2Allen18 said: Draft picks Hey, you can dream. It would certainly help your team that so far has been crippled in the off-season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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