Prodigal Syndicate Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 1 minute ago, BreeceHallofFame said: Because those things are out of his control and they killed the few drives they had because the defense could not get off the field. You can make that same excuse for literally any qb. You could throw tyrod taylor in and get the same result then. You think Brady and Mahommes would let a couple plays dictate their game? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreeceHallofFame Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 1 minute ago, T0mShane said: That’s what’s so crazy about the narrative today— we’re making excuses for Rodgers now? He’s a Hall of Famer! The refs looked like they had money on the Jets with the calls they were making on a few Niners drives! Aiyuk literally dropped a TD! lol acting like a full speed extension dive was a drop was the most absurd thing I heard all night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 1 minute ago, BreeceHallofFame said: He could be in better shape than two years ago for all we know. The fact of the matter is that he had a broken thumb on his throwing hand which to dismiss for a QB is absurd For all we know... yeah, look. like I said only 2 guys have produced top 10ish or so seasons in seasons they started at age 40 or older. And Rodgers is coming off an Achilles tear. My position here isn't about what I know, it's about what the odds are. And they ain't good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 2 minutes ago, Prodigal Syndicate said: Rodgers has always struck me as a guy more concerned with his stats and turnover ratio than winning. He would rather the team fail so he can deflect blame on everyone else than take the big risks that could make him look bad if they don't work And that's why he's only had 1 SB and a whole lot of under achieving post season runs. It’s always been a massive knock on him that he’s so turnover averse that he’ll leave points on the field instead of taking the shot. Reportedly drove Matt LaFleur insane because they’d dial up a play that Rodgers didn’t approve of, the receiver would be open, and Aaron still wouldn’t throw it because it was too risky. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreeceHallofFame Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 Just now, Prodigal Syndicate said: You can make that same excuse for literally any qb. You could throw tyrod taylor in and get the same result then. You think Brady and Mahommes would let a couple plays dictate their game? I don’t understand what you’re saying. If Brady’s receivers dropped third down passes and his defense was unable to get him the ball back then yes it would be the same situation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreeceHallofFame Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 2 minutes ago, T0mShane said: It’s always been a massive knock on him that he’s so turnover averse that he’ll leave points on the field instead of taking the shot. Reportedly drove Matt LaFleur insane because they’d dial up a play that Rodgers didn’t approve of, the receiver would be open, and Aaron still wouldn’t throw it because it was too risky. Was this before or after winning two straight MVPs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodigal Syndicate Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 4 minutes ago, BreeceHallofFame said: I don’t understand what you’re saying. If Brady’s receivers dropped third down passes and his defense was unable to get him the ball back then yes it would be the same situation. You don't understand that not everything In a game is going to go perfect every game? That good players over come the mistakes and get things done? Niners didn't play a perfect game but they didnt let it dictate their whole night they just kept coming. Rodgers is supposed to be above the excuse game. He didn't play well yesterday. Its as simple as that. To hear people citing a couple plays as an excuse for a bad game is like listening to Wilson and darnold truthers all over again 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 1 minute ago, BreeceHallofFame said: Was this before or after winning two straight MVPs And Sophia Loren was a looker in her prime but I'm not trying to get her number in 2024. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreeceHallofFame Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 Just now, jgb said: And Sophia Loren was a looker in her prime but I'm not trying to get her number in 2024. How did she look 2 years after her prime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 2 minutes ago, BreeceHallofFame said: Was this before or after winning two straight MVPs During Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 Just now, Prodigal Syndicate said: You don't understand that not everything In a game is going to go perfect every game? That good players over come the mistakes and get things done? Niners didn't play a perfect game but they dint let it dictate their whole night they just kept coming. Rodgers is supposed to be above the excuse game. He didn't play well yesterday. Its as simple as that. To hear people citing a couple plays as an excuse for a bad game is like listening to Wilson and darnold truthers all over again I will admit, it's a lot more palatable to hear excuse-making for Aaron Rodgers than for Zach Wilson. So I guess that's an improvement around here. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreeceHallofFame Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 1 minute ago, Prodigal Syndicate said: You don't understand that not everything In a game is going to go perfect every game? That good players over come the mistakes and get things done? Niners didn't play a perfect game but they didnt let it dictate their whole night they just kept coming. Rodgers is supposed to be above the excuse game. He didn't play well yesterday. Its as simple as that. To hear people citing a couple plays as an excuse for a bad game is like listening to Wilson and darnold truthers all over again It was one game with absurd time of possession circumstance. You make no sense brother 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 7 minutes ago, BreeceHallofFame said: lol acting like a full speed extension dive was a drop was the most absurd thing I heard all night. It fell into his hands! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 2 minutes ago, BreeceHallofFame said: Was this before or after winning two straight MVPs Are you suggesting that MVPs are not almost entirely influenced by individual statistical performance? Not sure how that disproves the point in any way, regardless of whether you agree with it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodigal Syndicate Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 Just now, BreeceHallofFame said: It was one game with absurd time of possession circumstance. You make no sense brother They had the same amount of drives. The difference is Purdey played well and Rodgers didn't. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreeceHallofFame Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 Just now, T0mShane said: It fell into his hands! I’ve literally never seen a WR make that catch and Buck was talking about it like it was a punt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreeceHallofFame Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 1 minute ago, Bleedin Green said: Are you suggesting that MVPs are not almost entirely influenced by individual statistical performance? Not sure how that disproves the point in any way, regardless of whether you agree with it. To argue that a player is doing something wrong because it allowed him to win two MVPs and make deep playoff runs doesn’t make any sense. It tells me that Lefleur is an egomaniac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 4 minutes ago, BreeceHallofFame said: How did she look 2 years after her prime You know, I don't usually do this, but I'm going to refrain from Mutomboing this into the cheap seats because you're new here and you remind me of myself when I was a bushy tailed optimistic Jets fan in the mid-90s. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreeceHallofFame Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 3 minutes ago, Prodigal Syndicate said: They had the same amount of drives. The difference is Purdey played well and Rodgers didn't. Yea that was the difference, the trenches had nothing to do with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 15 minutes ago, Prodigal Syndicate said: Rodgers has always struck me as a guy more concerned with his stats and turnover ratio than winning. He would rather the team fail so he can deflect blame on everyone else than take the big risks that could make him look bad if they don't work And that's why he's only had 1 SB and a whole lot of under achieving post season runs. You know how stupid this sounds? Your hate for him is getting wilder and wilder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 13 minutes ago, Prodigal Syndicate said: You can make that same excuse for literally any qb. You could throw tyrod taylor in and get the same result then. You think Brady and Mahommes would let a couple plays dictate their game? It’s like people memory-holed Mahomes winning a Super Bowl with Kadarius Toney. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 22 minutes ago, BreeceHallofFame said: The league averaged 185 yard passing yesterday He played the 2022 season with a broken thumb and Lazard as his #1 option. you only need to average 237 yards per game to throw for our franchise record His play over the last 3 years or so has been a medium levee QB and the jets invest in him as if he was hof mvp rodgers, those days are long gone. As I said earlier this year if he has a year as good as carr had last year people will be throwing rose petals at his feet. Broken thumb, torn achilles, 40 plus year old QB, no worries there. Unless Rodgers provides us with top level QB play the amount we invest in him will be a big time loss. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 1 minute ago, SomebodytoAnybody47 said: You know how stupid this sounds? Your hate for him is getting wilder and wilder. It’s very true that Rodgers needs the team to win *because of him.* He resented Mike McCarthy and Matt LaFleur getting credit for the Packers success, and it’s why he loves Saleh and Hackett 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodigal Syndicate Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 3 minutes ago, SomebodytoAnybody47 said: You know how stupid this sounds? Your hate for him is getting wilder and wilder. Similar thoughts have been around him almost his entire career. He's a narcissistic ego maniac. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreeceHallofFame Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 1 minute ago, Beerfish said: His play over the last 3 years or so has been a medium levee QB and the jets invest in him as if he was hof mvp rodgers, those days are long gone. As I said earlier this year if he has a year as good as carr had last year people will be throwing rose petals at his feet. Broken thumb, torn achilles, 40 plus year old QB, no worries there. Unless Rodgers provides us with top level QB play the amount we invest in him will be a big time loss. In the last three seasons he has two MVPs and a 26 TD 12 In season playing with a broken thumb on his throwing hand and Lazard as his #1 option Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 4 minutes ago, Beerfish said: His play over the last 3 years or so has been a medium levee QB and the jets invest in him as if he was hof mvp rodgers, those days are long gone. As I said earlier this year if he has a year as good as carr had last year people will be throwing rose petals at his feet. Broken thumb, torn achilles, 40 plus year old QB, no worries there. Unless Rodgers provides us with top level QB play the amount we invest in him will be a big time loss. When I think huge investment I think more Watson and Wilson. The Jets didn’t give up nothing but I’d argue it was well shy of HOF MVP level QB capital. And I say this as someone who’s been skeptical about the deal for a while. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 1 minute ago, derp said: When I think huge investment I think more Watson and Wilson. The Jets didn’t give up nothing but I’d argue it was well shy of HOF MVP level QB capital. And I say this as someone who’s been skeptical about the deal for a while. It was worth the gamble if you got last year and then this one to figure out how to get to a Super Bowl, but now it feels like they’re trying a YOLO exercise to get it done this year and, well, it might not go well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodigal Syndicate Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 9 minutes ago, BreeceHallofFame said: Yea that was the difference, the trenches had nothing to do with it Purdey looked mobile and great. He was making plays happen. Rodgers looked like he could barely walk. It was like watching Flacco the statue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 24 minutes ago, T0mShane said: That’s what’s so crazy about the narrative today— we’re making excuses for Rodgers now? He’s a Hall of Famer! The refs looked like they had money on the Jets with the calls they were making on a few Niners drives! Aiyuk literally dropped a TD! There is no greater force in the universe than a fanbase's capacity to shift blame from the QB to 52 other guys. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 6 minutes ago, Prodigal Syndicate said: Purdey looked mobile and great. He was making plays happen. Rodgers looked like he could barely walk. It was like watching Flacco the statue. Rodgers has entered the "statue" portion of his career. This offense will be dictated on whether the OL can coalesce enough to allow a pure pocket passer to succeed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 25 minutes ago, Asymmetrical said: Forgot about how this website is after a loss. I get it, it feels like this team has never won a game but I'll wait until they blow it to Tennessee before I join you all going over the cliff. God it would be so funny to lose to Will Levis 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 2 minutes ago, T0mShane said: God it would be so funny to lose to Will Levis Fake Jets fan hater. I bet you kiss your mother with an open mouth, too. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodigal Syndicate Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 5 minutes ago, T0mShane said: God it would be so funny to lose to Will Levis 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asymmetrical Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 4 minutes ago, T0mShane said: God it would be so funny to lose to Will Levis the mayo ads already sicken me 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 2 minutes ago, Asymmetrical said: the mayo ads already sicken me 350 yards, 3 TDs through the air and 1 on the ground and he celebrates with a banana still in the peel 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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