Sperm Edwards Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 No. That was the Bears' selection. The Jets' position selection was Todd Johnson. Wrong. Todd Johnson was Chicago's early 4th round pick - 4(3). They naturally picked early in each round, which is how they had the 4th overall pick in the draft. We picked later b/c we were 9-7 - the 19th pick in the 4th round. Or you can just click this link: http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NFLDraft/Draft+Day/2003/Trades.htm Friday, April 25 1) Chicago traded its first-round pick (No. 4) to the New York Jets in exchange for the Jets' two first-round picks (Nos. 13 and 22) and a fourth-round pick (No. 116). The Jets drafted Kentucky DT Dewayne Robertson with the No. 4 pick. Chicago traded the No. 13 pick (see #4 below), drafted Florida QB Rex Grossman with the No. 22 pick and Florida DT Ian Scott with the No. 116 pick. Know your place, young man. Don't ever try to correct me again. But on that note, we would've had the #13 pick (Ty Warren) and #22 (we wouldn't have taken Grossman). #23 was McGahee & #27 was Larry Johnson. Pretty sobering. You never trade all that to get one player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 Wrong. Todd Johnson was Chicago's early 4th round pick - 4(3). They naturally picked early in each round, which is how they had the 4th overall pick in the draft. We picked later b/c we were 9-7 - the 19th pick in the 4th round. Or you can just click this link: http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NFLDraft/Draft+Day/2003/Trades.htm Friday, April 25 1) Chicago traded its first-round pick (No. 4) to the New York Jets in exchange for the Jets' two first-round picks (Nos. 13 and 22) and a fourth-round pick (No. 116). The Jets drafted Kentucky DT Dewayne Robertson with the No. 4 pick. Chicago traded the No. 13 pick (see #4 below), drafted Florida QB Rex Grossman with the No. 22 pick and Florida DT Ian Scott with the No. 116 pick. Know your place, young man. Don't ever try to correct me again. But on that note, we would've had the #13 pick (Ty Warren) and #22 (we wouldn't have taken Grossman). #23 was McGahee & #27 was Larry Johnson. Pretty sobering. You never trade all that to get one player. Todd Johnson, Ian Scott, they both suck. LaMont Jordan's having a great season, eh Sperm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 Todd Johnson, Ian Scott, they both suck. LaMont Jordan's having a great season, eh Sperm? Curtis Martin's having a great season, eh 124? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 Curtis Martin's having a great season, eh 124? Leon & Barlow > LaMont Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 Leon & Barlow > LaMont Period. I don't think I've ever seen a more talented team play such uninspired pro football as what I've witnessed from the Oakland Raiders this year.Art Shell has to take the bullet for this what else can be the explanation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 I don't think I've ever seen a more talented team play such uninspired pro football as what I've witnessed from the Oakland Raiders this year.Art Shell has to take the bullet for this what else can be the explanation? The Raiders problems start and end with Al Davis. He could be one of the worst owners in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 The Raiders problems start and end with Al Davis. He could be one of the worst owners in the NFL. how can he affect the way the team is playing on the field Tex? HE brings in a Randy Moss and Aaron Brooks and a Lamont Jordan -who everybody pretty much believed would be a 1200 yard rusher-It's gotta be Shell and his co-ordinators.The Raiders were in the SB only a couple of years ago... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 how can he affect the way the team is playing on the field Tex? HE brings in a Randy Moss and Aaron Brooks and a Lamont Jordan -who everybody pretty much believed would be a 1200 yard rusher-It's gotta be Shell and his co-ordinators.The Raiders were in the SB only a couple of years ago... Al Davis has his hands into everything. He's the most meddlesome owner in the NFL. Who do you think is really calling the shots for the Raiders? Art Shell or Al Davis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raffyD Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 Al Davis has his hands into everything. He's the most meddlesome owner in the NFL. Who do you think is really calling the shots for the Raiders? Art Shell or Al Davis? I think that's why Davis hired Shell, namely so that Davis is always calling the shots. That's his MO, hire a HC that you can control. That's also why no one wants to coach the Raiders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 I think that's why Davis hired Shell, namely so that Davis is always calling the shots. That's his MO, hire a HC that you can control. That's also why no one wants to coach the Raiders. I totally agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preston Howley III Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 Just keep reloading your PM Inbox. It will show up at any moment. BZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterNorth09 Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 Didn't like the Eli trade by the Giants, hated the D-Rob trade by the Jets. Giants were a win now team, so why trade all those picks for a young QB who was going to need 2-3 years to learn the system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 I think that's why Davis hired Shell, namely so that Davis is always calling the shots. That's his MO, hire a HC that you can control. That's also why no one wants to coach the Raiders. That's true, but it used to work. Before he turned senile. He was a great football man before the merger. We AFL people owe him some gratitude. He always felt the league sold him out to merge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 That's true, but it used to work. Before he turned senile. He was a great football man before the merger. We AFL people owe him some gratitude. He always felt the league sold him out to merge. That is so true. Few people realize that if not for the other owners of the AFL, we would all probably be huttled around TVs watching the AFL today as oppossed to the NFL. Davis did not want a merger. He was leading a charge for an outright win. And the AFL was making strides to victory. The other AFL moderates and Rozelle sought a merger. They won out. Al Davis was the 'bomb' in the day. It is sad to see him drag the Raiders down now. Every league needs a team to hate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 too bad Rivers can't play against the Bengals every week, huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 too bad Rivers can't play against the Bengals every week, huh? His first pick was a tipped ball, not his bad. Second interception was a good guess by Darrant Williams. Rivers isn't playing terrible, 1 of his 2 picks were not his fault (1st). Also, why not get the ball to Gates more? He's been thrown to 3 times the entire game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj meadowlands Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 hahahaaaaaa LOOK what the Giants could've had Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 His first pick was a tipped ball, not his bad. Second interception was a good guess by Darrant Williams. Rivers isn't playing terrible, 1 of his 2 picks were not his fault (1st). Also, why not get the ball to Gates more? He's been thrown to 3 times the entire game. all they need to do is give it to LT every play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 hahahaaaaaa LOOK what the Giants could've had the Giants had a shot at getting LT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 the Giants had a shot at getting LT? No. They drafted the best QB that year, only to trade him away. And OBTW they also gave up a 1st rd pick that got the chargers shawne merriman. Everyone laughed when I stuck by my guns and kept saying Rivers was the best QB in that class. Who is laughing now? Me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 No. They drafted the best QB that year, only to trade him away. And OBTW they also gave up a 1st rd pick that got the chargers shawne merriman. Everyone laughed when I stuck by my guns and kept saying Rivers was the best QB in that class. Who is laughing now? Me! the best QB that year? hahahaha lets see one has won a superbowl one has won a divison one has started 10 games and been instructed to give the ball to LT every down (and JP Losman blows) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 the best QB that year? hahahaha lets see one has won a superbowl one has won a divison one has started 10 games and been instructed to give the ball to LT every down (and JP Losman blows) Hilarious. Ben and Eli both win by handing off to their RBs. Obviously, Ben doesnt win by doing that anymore so he is playing like sh#t. Eli, on the other hand, still has tiki barber who's great just like Tomlinson. Nice try. Rivers is the best QB, by far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted December 14, 2006 Author Share Posted December 14, 2006 Everyone laughed when I stuck by my guns and kept saying Rivers was the best QB in that class. Who is laughing now? Me! not me,, i was pushing him while he was still a junior in college,, said before draft he was the best QB in draft by far. Giants will go down as biggest Draft mistake of decade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterNorth09 Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 the best QB that year? hahahaha lets see one has won a superbowl one has won a divison one has started 10 games and been instructed to give the ball to LT every down (and JP Losman blows) I was against the Eli trade when it happened and couldn't believe a win-now team like the Giants would have traded up for young QB like Eli. That said, there are much worse players to end up with than Eli Manning. The Giants have made the playoffs 2 out of the 3 years since they've made that trade (yes, they will probably make the playoffs this year) and how on earth do you know they would have drafted Shawn Merriman with that other pick? I always liked Rivers and wanted the Jets to trade their first round pick last year for him before it became apparent Drew Brees was leaving SD. Still, it's too early to say he's better than both Manning and Roethlisberger. He does have the benefit of playing the best RB in the NFL (LT), the best TE in the NFL (Gates) and one of the best left tackles (McNeill). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted December 15, 2006 Author Share Posted December 15, 2006 Still, it's too early to say he's better than both Manning and Roethlisberger. actually its not. he was better on draft day. montana like poise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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