Pragmatic Bus Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 (when u guys criticize my picks tell us who would u rather pick and give a good reason why.) 2007 NFL MOCK DRAFT ROUND 1 Oakland RaidersJeMarcus Russell QB LSU Detroit LionsBrady Quin QB Notre Dame Cleveland BrownsJamaal Anderson DE Arkansas Tampa Bay BuccaneersAlan Branch DT Michigan Arizona CardinalsJoe Thomas OT Wisconsin Washington RedskinsGaines Adam DE Clemson Minnesota VikingsCalvin Johnson WR GT Houston TexansLeon Hall CB Michigam Miami DolphinsLaron Landry DB LSU Atlanta FalconsAdrian Peterson RB Oklahoma San Fransisco 49ersMarcus Mccauley CB Fresno Buffalo BillsJeff Samardzija WR Notre Dame St. Louis RamsMicheal Griffin DB Texas Carolina PanthersDwayne Jarrett WR USC Pittsburgh SteelersDarrelle Revis CB Pitt Geen Bay PackersMarshawn Lynch RB Cal Jacksonville JaguarsLevi Brown OT Penn St Cincinatti BengalsQuinn Pit**** DT Ohio St Tennessee TitansSidney Rice WR South Carolina Denver BroncosAmobi Okoye DT Louisville Newyork Giants Reggie Nelson DB Florida Dallas CowboysTony Ugoh OT Arkansas Kansas City ChiefsQuentin Moses DE Georgia Newyork JETS Adam Carriker DE Nebraska Seattle Seahawks (NE)Anthony Spencer DE/OLB Purdue Neworleans SaintsBuster Davis LB Florida St Philadephia EaglesSam Baker OT USC New England PatriotsTed Ginn Jr WR Ohio St Indianapolis ColtsPaul Posluszny OLB Penn St Chicago BearsGlenn Dorsey DT LSU Baltimore RavensJustin Blalock OG Texas San Diego ChargersRobert Meahem WR Tennessee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragmatic Bus Posted January 11, 2007 Author Share Posted January 11, 2007 ROUND 2 Detroit LionsLamarr Woodley DE Michigan Cleveland BrownsMarshal Yanda OT Iowa Tampa Bay BuccaneersLawrence Timmons LB Florida St Arizona CardinalsRyan Kalil C USC Washington Redskins (NYJ)Ray Mcdonald DE/OLB Florida Minnesota VikingsZach Miller TE Arizona St Houston TexansCharles Johnson DE Georgia Miami DolphinsRufus Alexander LB Oklahoma Atlanta FalconsDwayne Bowe WR LSU San Fransisco 49ersAaron Ross CB Texas Buffalo BillsSamson Satele C Hawaii St. Louis RamsDemarcus Tyler DT North Carolina Carolina PanthersPatrick Willis LB Mississippi Pittsburgh SteelersH.B. Blades LB Pitt Geen Bay PackersKareem Brown DT Miami Fl Jacksonville JaguarsEarl Everette LB Florida Cincinatti BengalsLouis Leonard NT Fresno St Tennessee TitansBen Grubbs OG Auburn Denver BroncosJosh Beekman OG Boston Col Newyork Giants Tim Duckworth OG Auburn Dallas CowboysLeroy Harris C North Carolina St Kansas City ChiefsDesmond Bishop LB Cal Newyork JETS Brandon Mebane NT Cal Seattle SeahawksFred Bennett CB South Carolina Neworleans SaintsDaymeion Hughes CB Cal Philadephia EaglesStewart Bradley LB Nebraska New England PatriotsBaraka Atkins DE Miami Fl Indianapolis ColtsTim Crowder DL Texas Chicago BearsJoe Newton TE Oregan St Baltimore RavensBrian Leonard FB Rutgers San Diego ChargersBrandon Meriweather DB Miami Fl Oakland Raiders Kenny Irons RB Auburn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny green balls Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 Jake Long said he's staying at Umich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
914-ny Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 LOL @ troy smith not getting drafted in first 2 rounds... i think he would go in late 3rd...4th round.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragmatic Bus Posted January 11, 2007 Author Share Posted January 11, 2007 Now before you guys start killing me on this. let me explain. a lot of hours of reasoning thinkin and research went over this. but i did it by my self on exel. so if something is missing if you disagree on something just ask me the Qs and i'll try to explain my point of view. please do not be rude in making you comments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragmatic Bus Posted January 11, 2007 Author Share Posted January 11, 2007 Jake Long said he's staying at Umich i'm sorry ithought he was comming out my bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 If Adrian Peterson slips all the way to 10th, Tannenbaum better be burning up the phone line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragmatic Bus Posted January 11, 2007 Author Share Posted January 11, 2007 you have to understand there are a lot of prospects and team need that went into this it's well thought out but might have a minor glitch or two Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj meadowlands Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 no Michael Bush/Kenny Irons in the first 2 rounds? I dunno.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragmatic Bus Posted January 11, 2007 Author Share Posted January 11, 2007 If Adrian Peterson slips all the way to 10th, Tannenbaum better be burning up the phone line. yes i'm excited about that situation. but i did not include any trades. teams above him had more glaring needs than a RB to adress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedinGreenNC Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 Thank you for putting that together for us!! As you can see in my sig, that is who i want with our 1st pick!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 I don't know if it would matter in your selections..but I'm fairly certain the Jets pick 5th in the second round with the Washington pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragmatic Bus Posted January 11, 2007 Author Share Posted January 11, 2007 no Michael Bush/Kenny Irons in the first 2 rounds? I dunno.. well teams have a lot more glaring defencive needs this time around. all RB's might slide down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragmatic Bus Posted January 11, 2007 Author Share Posted January 11, 2007 I don't know if it would matter in your selections..but I'm fairly certain the Jets pick 5th in the second round with the Washington pick. sorry i fixed it check it again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragmatic Bus Posted January 11, 2007 Author Share Posted January 11, 2007 no Michael Bush/Kenny Irons in the first 2 rounds? I dunno.. there was a glitch. its fixed now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragmatic Bus Posted January 11, 2007 Author Share Posted January 11, 2007 i was getting tired of the stupid mockdrafts online most of them dont even have the draft order right. i picked all the picks trying not to be biased. this is probably the most unbiased mock draft. i hope TX likes it LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragmatic Bus Posted January 11, 2007 Author Share Posted January 11, 2007 if you grade each team in this draft all teams get atleast a B grade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragmatic Bus Posted January 11, 2007 Author Share Posted January 11, 2007 i would give oakland, arizona, jets, and patriots A+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragmatic Bus Posted January 11, 2007 Author Share Posted January 11, 2007 Pittsburgh get 2 guys from Pitt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gang_green03 Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 I don't know about taking Carriker and McDonald. I'm pretty sure McDonald's a DE/DT not DE/OLB and we don't need two 3-4 ends right now. I'd rather take Spencer in the 1st then McDonald cause I don't think Carriker's worth a 1st rounder at this point. I really don't think Mebane could play NT. He's pretty undersized at less than 300lbs and he gets overwhelmed by bigger blockers. He's more of a penetrator. 3 defensive lineman with our first 3 picks is a little unnecesssary. Mediocore draft but we could do much better than that IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragmatic Bus Posted January 11, 2007 Author Share Posted January 11, 2007 I don't know about taking Carriker and McDonald. I'm pretty sure McDonald's a DE/DT not DE/OLB and we don't need two 3-4 ends right now. I'd rather take Spencer in the 1st then McDonald cause I don't think Carriker's worth a 1st rounder at this point. I really don't think Mebane could play NT. He's pretty undersized at less than 300lbs and he gets overwhelmed by bigger blockers. He's more of a penetrator. 3 defensive lineman with our first 3 picks is a little unnecesssary. Mediocore draft but we could do much better than that IMO. nice take on it but. if bryan thomas can play OLB mcdonald deffinately can he is much more faster. carriker is rated top 3-4 DE in all of the boards and he is so good he can go to NT DT and Drop in coverage in zone blitz. taking spencer at where we pick would be an equal reach as we reached for schlegal. mebane is will be the top rated NT where we pick in the second round and if you ask draft experts some have him as top rated NT. and he is not undersized at all. he can rush the passer and stop the run great combination of strength and speed. in addition they are all captains on there teams. leadership and intangibles thats what mangini likes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 There is no way we go DLine with our first 3 picks. No chance. We need to improve on the right side of the OLine and we need a RB as well. If we even go defense with our first 3 picks there will be a Cornerback in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormshadow19 Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 There is no way we go DLine with our first 3 picks. No chance. We need to improve on the right side of the OLine and we need a RB as well. If we even go defense with our first 3 picks there will be a Cornerback in there. I agree, pretty much. Unless when the Jets pick, the BPA is a defensive lineman, there's no way they take three in a row. I figure they take some offensive skill position in the first three rounds, and an offensive lineman. I think they'll get their corner and defensive help in FA. They can get their big NT (Sands), their big play CD (Samuel or Clements), and the edge pass rusher or the other inside backer for the 3/4 (Briggs and Thomas). Though, if he's avalible when the Jets pick, it wouldn't suprise me if they take Lamar Woodley. Just cause Michigan shat the bed, doesn't mean he's not any less of a prospect. He had a hell of a year, and he's a tweener. Mostly, he's just an edge rusher, a playmaker, and that's what the Jets need on the outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gang_green03 Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 nice take on it but. if bryan thomas can play OLB mcdonald deffinately can he is much more faster. carriker is rated top 3-4 DE in all of the boards and he is so good he can go to NT DT and Drop in coverage in zone blitz. taking spencer at where we pick would be an equal reach as we reached for schlegal. mebane is will be the top rated NT where we pick in the second round and if you ask draft experts some have him as top rated NT. and he is not undersized at all. he can rush the passer and stop the run great combination of strength and speed. in addition they are all captains on there teams. leadership and intangibles thats what mangini likes McDonld is no where near as fast as Thomas. Thomas ran something like a 4.4 40 and McDolald would be hard pressed to run a 4.7 and I'd be very impressed if he did. Also McDonald weighs about 280lbs where Thomas is around 265 I believe. McDonald is a DT/DE tweener and he played both positions in College. Thomas never played DT in college. McDonald is not a OLB prospect in the 3-4 he's a DE prospect. I do think he would be a good pick though because he is very quick and explosive from what I've read and could be a very good DE in the 3-4. He is also very strong and as you said has great intangibles. I just think its either him or Carriker cause we're not cutting or benching Ellis. I think I actually might like McDonald a little more than Carriker cause he doesn't seem to have as much trouble holding at the point of attack. Spencer is no where near the reach that Schegel was and some are even projecting him to go in the 1st round after workouts. He has great speed and could be a very good 3-4 OLB. He can drop into coverage and is fairly solid against the run for his size. He might be a slight reach in the late 1st but please don't compare him to Schegel, he has very good upside. And I should've said Woodley or Spencer my bad I thought you had him going earlier. I know Mebane is strong and has great intangables but I don't really think he's a great NT prospect and he might be a reach where you have us taking him. I don't like hearing that he struggles with big blockers. I don't want someone who's a little undersized for a 4-3 DT playing NT for us. Again as I've already said 3 defensive lineman with our first 3 picks is overkill. The d-line is our biggest need but we do have others also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loose Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 New here. Looks good, but I have some problems. I think we can get carriker with our early second rounder . With the first pick we get the pass rusher (spencer, woodley) we need, then we get kimos replacement. ( carriker) Some other things, if buffalo does indeed take wide reciever Isnt dwayne jarrett the better reciever ? Overral, seems cool though. Good work O , yeah Are you doing this draft with the impression weve signed a running back already, or do you expect us to get a runningback later in the draft ? Otherwise , id be pretty upset if we didnt get a franchise back somewhere in the second round . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragmatic Bus Posted January 12, 2007 Author Share Posted January 12, 2007 There is no way we go DLine with our first 3 picks. No chance. We need to improve on the right side of the OLine and we need a RB as well. If we even go defense with our first 3 picks there will be a Cornerback in there. well lets see who would you pick there out of players available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragmatic Bus Posted January 12, 2007 Author Share Posted January 12, 2007 I agree, pretty much. Unless when the Jets pick, the BPA is a defensive lineman, there's no way they take three in a row. I figure they take some offensive skill position in the first three rounds, and an offensive lineman. I think they'll get their corner and defensive help in FA. They can get their big NT (Sands), their big play CD (Samuel or Clements), and the edge pass rusher or the other inside backer for the 3/4 (Briggs and Thomas). Though, if he's avalible when the Jets pick, it wouldn't suprise me if they take Lamar Woodley. Just cause Michigan shat the bed, doesn't mean he's not any less of a prospect. He had a hell of a year, and he's a tweener. Mostly, he's just an edge rusher, a playmaker, and that's what the Jets need on the outside. adam is the best player available at first pick, mcdonald is a pass rusher he is average against the run. and bryan thomas is 276lb. mcdonald can lose weight. and dont give me combine numbers. u all know they dont matter much. if jets dont pick adam with the first he will be picked by New england with there first pick. i know some of you have been going to those bogus mock draft sites that dont even have the draft order right. before you pass any other coments bring to my knowledge who would they pick and why would they pick him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragmatic Bus Posted January 12, 2007 Author Share Posted January 12, 2007 New here. Looks good, but I have some problems. I think we can get carriker with our early second rounder . With the first pick we get the pass rusher (spencer, woodley) we need, then we get kimos replacement. ( carriker) Some other things, if buffalo does indeed take wide reciever Isnt dwayne jarrett the better reciever ? Overral, seems cool though. Good work O , yeah Are you doing this draft with the impression weve signed a running back already, or do you expect us to get a runningback later in the draft ? Otherwise , id be pretty upset if we didnt get a franchise back somewhere in the second round . cariker would not be available in second round. new england has two picks after us they will definately pick him up. buffallo will pick the best wr which ever there high on. it doesnt matter i have dwayne jarret a little below the others. tanenbaum is known for having the roster set up before the draft. jets will be really active in free agency. there are no trades in this mock drafts but if adrian falls a little look for jets to package some picks and players to get to him. also they can trade there 3rd round to go higher if micheal bush appears in early third round. micheal bush is a big back reminds me a lot of shaun alexander. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragmatic Bus Posted January 12, 2007 Author Share Posted January 12, 2007 i wanna see some non jets fan comment on this mock draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gang_green03 Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 adam is the best player available at first pick, mcdonald is a pass rusher he is average against the run. and bryan thomas is 276lb. mcdonald can lose weight. and dont give me combine numbers. u all know they dont matter much. if jets dont pick adam with the first he will be picked by New england with there first pick. i know some of you have been going to those bogus mock draft sites that dont even have the draft order right. before you pass any other coments bring to my knowledge who would they pick and why would they pick him. Again McDonald was a defensive tackle for most of his Florida career. He's only really played DE for a year since he was injured most of his junior season. He would be best suited to play end in the 3-4 and that plays to his strengths. He's not a OLB. He's a DT/DE tweener. Thomas is listed at 266lbs and McDonald is listed at 280lbs, again he is not faster than him but I wouldn't expect him to be at his position. Why would you ask a DT to loose weight to try an play linebacker when he's already suited just fine for being a DE. Woodley or Spencer would be better picks if we could get McDonald in the 2nd round. They are the pass rushing OLBs for our system and could be very successful in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragmatic Bus Posted January 12, 2007 Author Share Posted January 12, 2007 Again McDonald was a defensive tackle for most of his Florida career. He's only really played DE for a year since he was injured most of his junior season. He would be best suited to play end in the 3-4 and that plays to his strengths. He's not a OLB. He's a DT/DE tweener. Thomas is listed at 266lbs and McDonald is listed at 280lbs, again he is not faster than him but I wouldn't expect him to be at his position. Why would you ask a DT to loose weight to try an play linebacker when he's already suited just fine for being a DE. Woodley or Spencer would be better picks if we could get McDonald in the 2nd round. They are the pass rushing OLBs for our system and could be very successful in it. at 6-3 280 lb he is undersized for 3-4 DE he would need to gain 10-15 lbs to be an efective 3-4 DE and he is more of a 4-3 DE pass rusher like OSI Umenyura (i dont know the right spelling). he did play DT but that doesnot mean squat in nfl. he is more of a pass rusher. and about bryan thomas, last year he was listed at 270+ and he had to lose weight to get into the OLB role. in adition to all of that you can never go wrong with more pass rushers. they are a premium in nfl. remember o-linemen average 310lb+ in nfl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragmatic Bus Posted January 12, 2007 Author Share Posted January 12, 2007 jets could also go for the NT from fresno st. at where i have them taking mcdonald and then pick kenny irons with the third pick. it depends on which player are they high on. i like mcdonald because he played in he SEC which is a much tougher confrence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 at 6-3 280 lb he is undersized for 3-4 DE he would need to gain 10-15 lbs to be an efective 3-4 DE and he is more of a 4-3 DE pass rusher like OSI Umenyura (i dont know the right spelling). he did play DT but that doesnot mean squat in nfl. he is more of a pass rusher. and about bryan thomas, last year he was listed at 270+ and he had to lose weight to get into the OLB role. in adition to all of that you can never go wrong with more pass rushers. they are a premium in nfl. remember o-linemen average 310lb+ in nfl That's exactly what Herm said when he wasted a first round pick on Thomas with Ellis and Abraham already here. College pass rushers are not always NFL pass rushers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragmatic Bus Posted January 12, 2007 Author Share Posted January 12, 2007 That's exactly what Herm said when he wasted a first round pick on Thomas with Ellis and Abraham already here. College pass rushers are not always NFL pass rushers. well he didn't wasted that pick because he had a sussecfull year in the 3-4 in mangini's defence and they signed him to a new conttract. get your facts straight before u pass a coment like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 (when u guys criticize my picks tell us who would u rather pick and give a good reason why.) 2007 NFL MOCK DRAFT ROUND 1 Oakland RaidersJeMarcus Russell QB LSU Detroit LionsBrady Quin QB Notre Dame Cleveland BrownsJamaal Anderson DE Arkansas Tampa Bay BuccaneersAlan Branch DT Michigan Arizona CardinalsJoe Thomas OT Wisconsin Washington RedskinsGaines Adam DE Clemson Minnesota VikingsCalvin Johnson WR GT Houston TexansLeon Hall CB Michigam Miami DolphinsLaron Landry DB LSU Atlanta FalconsAdrian Peterson RB Oklahoma San Fransisco 49ersMarcus Mccauley CB Fresno Buffalo BillsJeff Samardzija WR Notre Dame St. Louis RamsMicheal Griffin DB Texas Carolina PanthersDwayne Jarrett WR USC Pittsburgh SteelersDarrelle Revis CB Pitt Geen Bay PackersMarshawn Lynch RB Cal Jacksonville JaguarsLevi Brown OT Penn St Cincinatti BengalsQuinn Pit**** DT Ohio St Tennessee TitansSidney Rice WR South Carolina Denver BroncosAmobi Okoye DT Louisville Newyork Giants Reggie Nelson DB Florida Dallas CowboysTony Ugoh OT Arkansas Kansas City ChiefsQuentin Moses DE Georgia Newyork JETS Adam Carriker DE Nebraska Seattle Seahawks (NE)Anthony Spencer DE/OLB Purdue Neworleans SaintsBuster Davis LB Florida St Philadephia EaglesSam Baker OT USC New England PatriotsTed Ginn Jr WR Ohio St Indianapolis ColtsPaul Posluszny OLB Penn St Chicago BearsGlenn Dorsey DT LSU Baltimore RavensJustin Blalock OG Texas San Diego ChargersRobert Meahem WR Tennessee Nice job . Especiaqlly this early in the pre draft season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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