penningtonfan82 Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 OK, so you think that Kellen will be starting against the redskins, huh? I thought it would be a little sooner, but you may be right. Nope didn't say that, and I don't think Kellen is gonna start this entire season was my point. That's an opinion, I have no factual information as none of you people do, but I'm not dumb to the fact that Chad pulls off big wins against teams he shouldn't. I have a feeling we're gonna be at .500 by week 8 with Chad as the QB. Therefore no reason to bench Chad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GandWFan Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 Chad has a 7.1 YPA out of 82 attempts Brett Farve has a 7.1 YPA out of 170 attempts I am not comparing these two players but just wanted to point out that if the dink passes that Chad is getting railed for were winning games and the Jets were 4-0 then those passes are not a problem. In my opinion if he has a 7.1 YPA and completing 76.8% of his passes then the reason that the offense is not scorring more is because the running game just isn't getting it done. This once again brings us back to losing the battle on the line. yards per attempt really doesn't do it for me. I would be curious, how does Chad stack up to Farve in yards per completion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tparich Posted October 3, 2007 Author Share Posted October 3, 2007 yards per attempt really doesn't do it for me. I would be curious, how does Chad stack up to Farve in yards per completion? I already posted this. scroll up a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GandWFan Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 I already posted this. scroll up a little. yup.. gotcha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GandWFan Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 Nope didn't say that, and I don't think Kellen is gonna start this entire season was my point. That's an opinion, I have no factual information as none of you people do, but I'm not dumb to the fact that Chad pulls off big wins against teams he shouldn't. I have a feeling we're gonna be at .500 by week 8 with Chad as the QB. Therefore no reason to bench Chad. So you think we are going to go 3-1 over the next 4 games Giants, Eagles, Bengals, Buffalo. You see 3 wins in there? The way this team is playing, on both sides of the ball, maybe we can beat Buffalo at home. maybe. If they start Losman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 yup.. gotcha yup.. owned!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 Chad fans, wow. If this argument was flat vs. round, rather than Chad vs. Clemens, this topic would say "There is no Earth controversy". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McGraw38 Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 Chad fans, wow. If this argument was flat vs. round, rather than Chad vs. Clemens, this topic would say "There is no Earth controversy". LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tparich Posted October 4, 2007 Author Share Posted October 4, 2007 Chad fans, wow. If this argument was flat vs. round, rather than Chad vs. Clemens, this topic would say "There is no Earth controversy". I don't really consider myself a "Chad Fan" I root for him because he is the QB for the team i love. I just don't have a hatred for the guy and think the reason for not scoring more points is because of the O-Line. I think we are looking pretty good at most of the so called "skill positions" on both sides of the ball. We just need better line play so the skill guys can do their jobs. The defense also doesn't help by giving us fewer drives to even try to score points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McGraw38 Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 I don't really consider myself a "Chad Fan" I root for him because he is the QB for the team i love. I just don't have a hatred for the guy and think the reason for not scoring more points is because of the O-Line. I think we are looking pretty good at most of the so called "skill positions" on both sides of the ball. We just need better line play so the skill guys can do their jobs. The defense also doesn't help by giving us fewer drives to even try to score points. I can't speak for everyone, but I certainly don't hate Chad, I just don't think he's the answer for the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 Chad'll tank a few more games and it's HELLOOOO Mister Clemmens. The sonofab**** will play just good enough to not lose his job. He's the devil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 The sonofab**** will play just good enough to not lose his job. He's the devil. Will all you 4-3 loving ****ers pay attention to Barton? Stay the course! Stick to your convictions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tparich Posted October 4, 2007 Author Share Posted October 4, 2007 The sonofab**** will play just good enough to not lose his job. He's the devil. If thats true then Kellen needs to show more in practice. This way Chad would have to step it up to not lose his job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTJ06 Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 The 1st bad pass resulted in 7 points for the Bills. The 2nd bad pass ended the game. The Chad lead offense has done this: Game 1: 14 points (TOP was 26:03) Game 3: 23 points (TOP was 31:50) Game 4: 14 points (TOP was 27:44) That's an average of 17 points a game while having the ball for over 28 minutes each game. When your offense can't average 20 points a game you will be in trouble. As Bill parcells used to say "you judge a QB by his ability to get his team in the end zone" Many around here seem to think that completion percentage and QB rating are more important. Chad throws for 200 yds and 2 tds we score 14 points and lose, but since he completed 70% of his passes and his rating was high it was a great performance by Chad, and the loss had nothing to do with him. Its amazing I dont recall a mediocre athlete more loved and defended in any sport in NY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NY JETS 29 Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 J-E-T-S JETS!!! JETS!!! JETS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 As Bill parcells used to say "you judge a QB by his ability to get his team in the end zone" Many around here seem to think that completion percentage and QB rating are more important. Chad throws for 200 yds and 2 tds we score 14 points and lose, but since he completed 70% of his passes and his rating was high it was a great performance by Chad, and the loss had nothing to do with him. Its amazing I dont recall a mediocre athlete more loved and defended in any sport in NY. That sums it up. Chad has a 76 completion percentage and has nothing to show for it as his team has won 1 game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serphnx Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 Is YPC a better stat just because it would help your argument? There is a reason that this stat is not tracked and when you look up stats it always shows the YPA. But if you must know Farve: YPC 10.8 8TD/2INT Chad: YPC 9.2 6pass1rushTD/2INT There is not a whole lot of difference in their production. The difference in these teams in the lines on both sides of the ball. 1.6 yards more per completion. First down vs. not first down. 1 more TD passed for, that'd give us Buffalo right there. I'm also certain Favre got his team in position for a few TDs rushed/more goal line/red-zone opportunities. We don't get to the red-zone much with Chad so of course we can't run it in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 That sums it up. Chad has a 76 completion percentage and has nothing to show for it as his team has won 1 game. So has Carson Palmers, whats his excuse??? His arms too strong???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tparich Posted October 4, 2007 Author Share Posted October 4, 2007 1.6 yards more per completion. First down vs. not first down. 1 more TD passed for, that'd give us Buffalo right there. I'm also certain Favre got his team in position for a few TDs rushed/more goal line/red-zone opportunities. We don't get to the red-zone much with Chad so of course we can't run it in. Dude, do you just guess this stuff? Farve: 51% of his completed passes were for a first down Chad: 57% of his completed passes were for a first down Also has one less game so really his TD per game% is higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetCane Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 It wasnt Pennington's fault they lost to NE. In fact, he was one of the few who played well in that game. He had no part of the ravens game. He played well vs the Fish. Now, he had an unproductive game against the Bills which they lost, and all hell breaks loose. I'm okay if mangini announces he is going to play Clemens this week, but since that hasnt happened yet, i dont see a controversy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUM-KNEE Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 It wasnt Pennington's fault they lost to NE. In fact, he was one of the few who played well in that game. He had no part of the ravens game. He played well vs the Fish. Now, he had an unproductive game against the Bills which they lost, and all hell breaks loose. I'm okay if mangini announces he is going to play Clemens this week, but since that hasnt happened yet, i dont see a controversy. True. I dont mind the idea of starting Clemens but Id like to see if Penny comes back vs the Giants with some fire too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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