RSJ Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 I don't think anyone in the world doubted his 40 time would be great. Johnny "Lam" Jones had a great 40 time too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 The highlights just shown on NFL network just highlighted the negatives for me and pretty much erased how great the 40 time was. You can never 'erase' that 40 time when you consider just how freakish it actually was. That kind of speed with that kind of size is a scary prospect no mattter what, even if he can't break tackles he'll find a way to be utilized effectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 I don't think anyone in the world doubted his 40 time would be great. Johnny "Lam" Jones had a great 40 time too. No one thought he'd run a sub 4.3 No one!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 No one thought he'd run a sub 4.3 No one!! No one EVER questioned his straight away speed. That isn't the issue with this guy. I can pull up RB's that ran a crappy 40 time and are HOFers and I could pull up great 40's from scrubs. That was never the question with this guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman88 Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 You can never 'erase' that 40 time when you consider just how freakish it actually was. That kind of speed with that kind of size is a scary prospect no mattter what, even if he can't break tackles he'll find a way to be utilized effectively. Yeah except on tape a LB just caught up to him on what was essentially a straight line. Ali Highsmith may be good but he's not going to be running a sub 4.4 40. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 No one thought he'd run a sub 4.3 No one!! True, but i still think mendenhall has the better overall body of work. At 5'11 230 he ran a 4.37. Granted it's no 4.27, but considering the type of runner he is and the better reciever out of the backfield, I still think Mendenhall is shaping up to be the better all around back whereas McFadden is becoming sexier because he blazed a fast 40. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 True, but i still think mendenhall has the better overall body of work. At 5'11 230 he ran a 4.37. Granted it's no 4.27, but considering the type of runner he is and the better reciever out of the backfield, I still think Mendenhall is shaping up to be the better all around back whereas McFadden is becoming sexier because he blazed a fast 40. I agree, like I have said all along. Some team should move DMC to WR. DMC is the Rocket Ismail of this draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman88 Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 True, but i still think mendenhall has the better overall body of work. At 5'11 230 he ran a 4.37. Granted it's no 4.27, but considering the type of runner he is and the better reciever out of the backfield, I still think Mendenhall is shaping up to be the better all around back whereas McFadden is becoming sexier because he blazed a fast 40. I agree I really want to see who does the best in the recieving drills out of Stewart, Mendenhall and McFadden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 No one thought he'd run a sub 4.3 No one!! Somebody did. Somebody here guaranteed me that he was the fastest player in college and faster than Ted Ginn Jr. Even with the 4.27 I'm not too sure about that, but it's mighty impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Somebody did. Somebody here guaranteed me that he was the fastest player in college and faster than Ted Ginn Jr. Even with the 4.27 I'm not too sure about that, but it's mighty impressive. That is the fastest ever recorded time at the combine. It's beyond impressive. I didn't hear anyoneelse claim he was that fast, some people were arguing to me earlier that his time wouldn't touch AP's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 That is the fastest ever recorded time at the combine. It's beyond impressive. I didn't hear anyoneelse claim he was that fast, some people were arguing to me earlier that his time wouldn't touch AP's. Looks like his official time is 4.33. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 That is the fastest ever recorded time at the combine. It's beyond impressive. I didn't hear anyoneelse claim he was that fast, some people were arguing to me earlier that his time wouldn't touch AP's. Oh and the fastest time today was Johnson who ran an "OFFICIAL" time of 4.24. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Oh and the fastest time today was Johnson who ran an "OFFICIAL" time of 4.24. Where are you hearing this??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Looks like his official time is 4.33. Which makes what Mendehall and stewart did that much more impressive. Both Mendenhall and Jstew are bruising down hill runners with good lateral mobility; Mendenhall at 5'11 225ish ran a 4.37 and Jstew at 5'11 235 ran a 4.44, these are impressive times. THe other guy to look out for who mangini was apparantly high was matt forte, kid ran a 4.44. Edit: The officials make things sound a bit more realistic. 4.33 for mcfadden - An amazing 4.45 for mendenhall and a 4.24 for johnson..wow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Where are you hearing this??? NFL Network. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Which makes what Mendehall and stewart did that much more impressive. Both Mendenhall and Jstew are bruising down hill runners with good lateral mobility; Mendenhall at 5'11 225ish ran a 4.37 and Jstew at 5'11 235 ran a 4.44, these are impressive times. THe other guy to look out for who mangini was apparantly high was matt forte, kid ran a 4.44. Edit: The officials make things sound a bit more realistic. 4.33 for mcfadden - An amazing 4.45 for mendenhall and a 4.24 for johnson..wow! I agree, whoever drafts DMC before 20 and as the first RB is a moron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYjet10 Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 But we already knew Mcfadden had lightning spped. The question mark for him is can he take NFL hits run after run after run. He's smallr than Leon and were all saying Leon is too small to be our starter. We need to see if DMC has strength. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 You're right! Cause everyone knows a great rb makes a team so much better, just look at the Vikes!! Let's draft DMC and forget about the D!! We all know Defenses do not win championships! The Giants D was just a fluke! Look how powerful the Patriots O was! and they almst won it all!! GO DMC!!!! I'm not saying that, Vilma and our 6th pick to the Rams for the their 2nd. I'll do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 all you homos sh1tting on DMC... STFU i have been real quiet till now that said he will not be there at 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 all you homos sh1tting on DMC... STFU i have been real quiet till now that said he will not be there at 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 But we already knew Mcfadden had lightning spped. The question mark for him is can he take NFL hits run after run after run. He's smallr than Leon and were all saying Leon is too small to be our starter. We need to see if DMC has strength. strength is not an issue wih DMC, i have seen this dude run over my tide Like a Man vs Boys in college, he runs with power not finesse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drago Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 all you homos sh1tting on DMC... STFU i have been real quiet till now that said he will not be there at 6 Michael Bennett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 all you homos sh1tting on DMC... STFU i have been real quiet till now that said he will not be there at 6 LOL, way to come out of the closet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 all you homos sh1tting on DMC... STFU i have been real quiet till now that said he will not be there at 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 strength is not an issue wih DMC, i have seen this dude run over my tide Like a Man vs Boys in college, he runs with power not finesse Every first round pick should be like a man vs. boys in college. I understand what you mean, McFadden is a little polarizing. He's our '07 draft version of Chad Pennington. I don't think he's as poor a prospect as most of the "haters". OTOH, I don't like him and I don't like his running style. I don't think he runs with finesse, I think he runs with speed. He'll be a slasher in the NFL. Guys like that can be effective in NFL. Think of Joe Morris for the Giants, just hit the right hole, fast and hard and you'll get a gain. Problems are whether he will hold up and whether in a deep RB draft if he's worth #6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Every first round pick should be like a man vs. boys in college. I understand what you mean, McFadden is a little polarizing. He's our '07 draft version of Chad Pennington. I don't think he's as poor a prospect as most of the "haters". OTOH, I don't like him and I don't like his running style. I don't think he runs with finesse, I think he runs with speed. He'll be a slasher in the NFL. Guys like that can be effective in NFL. Think of Joe Morris for the Giants, just hit the right hole, fast and hard and you'll get a gain. Problems are whether he will hold up and whether in a deep RB draft if he's worth #6. I think he could be a more effective Willie Parker type player. Defences have to be wary of him because he's always a threat to take it the distance. He's a much more complete player though IMO especially at recieving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Every first round pick should be like a man vs. boys in college. I understand what you mean, McFadden is a little polarizing. He's our '07 draft version of Chad Pennington. I don't think he's as poor a prospect as most of the "haters". OTOH, I don't like him and I don't like his running style. I don't think he runs with finesse, I think he runs with speed. He'll be a slasher in the NFL. Guys like that can be effective in NFL. Think of Joe Morris for the Giants, just hit the right hole, fast and hard and you'll get a gain. Problems are whether he will hold up and whether in a deep RB draft if he's worth #6. No Different than AP holding up If anything this may make Jerry Jones move up and get him. Make no mistake this is the best playa in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 I think he could be a more effective Willie Parker type player. Defences have to be wary of him because he's always a threat to take it the distance. He's a much more complete player though IMO especially at recieving. I hope you mean parker is a more complete back, becuase he has actually shown the ability to get the tough yards and is a great reciever out of the backfield. McFadden has had plenty of knocks on him that he can't catch out of the backfield and he was very apprehentious about answering questions of whether or not he'll run recieving drills at this combine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 I hope you mean parker is a more complete back, becuase he has actually shown the ability to get the tough yards and is a great reciever out of the backfield. McFadden has had plenty of knocks on him that he can't catch out of the backfield and he was very apprehentious about answering questions of whether or not he'll run recieving drills at this combine. Parker is decent out of the backfield. It's not a weakness on him just nothing exceptionally special. I think McFadden could be (remember he basically didn't have a QB in college). Parker is not used in short yardage or goaline situations so I don't really know what you're talking about there. I meant to say he could become a much more complete player, I think he ahs the physical tools to be much better than FWP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSFAN5180 Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 What about a trade scenario involving our #6 pick for the Cowboys 2- 1st rounder and possibly Marion Barber or Bobby Carpenter. Carpenter could be available now that Dallas has acquired Zach Thomas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Parker is decent out of the backfield. It's not a weakness on him just nothing exceptionally special. I think McFadden could be (remember he basically didn't have a QB in college). Parker is not used in short yardage or goaline situations so I don't really know what you're talking about there. I meant to say he could become a much more complete player, I think he ahs the physical tools to be much better than FWP. By tough yards i meant that he has the ability to get hit at the los and continue to gain a few extra, or hit in the backfield for a potential loss and still get back to the LOS. I know he's not used in short yardage, i just feel that is a tougher runner with a chip on his shoulder compared to mcfadden. I am not sure his physical tools, besides size, is much better than FWP. I just think that mendenhall showed he has very good speed to go along with better power and a better style of running than mcfadden. Edit: I want to point out that even though I like Mendenhall that much better than mcfadden I wouldn't even take him with our #6 pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaspegs Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Look at this. It says he ran a 4.33 Sunday: Helping their causeRB Darren McFadden, Arkansas This talented junior tailback quieted critics with a blazing 4.33 official time that was the best of the event thus far. He came in at 211 pounds and did a 33" vertical leap and a 10'8" broad jump in a fine overall performance. Per Rivals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Look at this. It says he ran a 4.33 Sunday: Helping their causeRB Darren McFadden, Arkansas This talented junior tailback quieted critics with a blazing 4.33 official time that was the best of the event thus far. He came in at 211 pounds and did a 33" vertical leap and a 10'8" broad jump in a fine overall performance. Per Rivals Yeah. It seems the official time was 4.33 Had me excited for a second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 What about a trade scenario involving our #6 pick for the Cowboys 2- 1st rounder and possibly Marion Barber or Bobby Carpenter. Carpenter could be available now that Dallas has acquired Zach Thomas. Bobby Carpenter sucks!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serphnx Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Actually I'd say Mcfadden is closer to a Marcus Allen or Marshall Faulk type player, but that's just me I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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