jetpower10 Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 Why not..we did an excellent job in free agency to be able to take the BPA..why not him? whol else can you think of thats worth a top 6 pick? why with our new O line T rich at FB, Jones and Washington will be just fine i dont have a problem with getting DMC just dont see why we need him now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 Besides, who are you calling skippy? Isn't that assmop's word? I'm expanding my horizons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Favorite_Toon Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 why with our new O line T rich at FB, Jones and Washington will be just fine i dont have a problem with getting DMC just dont see why we need him now. Because if hes thebest player availiable.. and I dont trust the pats at 7.... god for bid they took him.. and he turned out to be a MONSTER... and tortured us for the next 8 years...I would be miserable.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drago Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 Why not..we did an excellent job in free agency to be able to take the BPA..why not him? whol else can you think of thats worth a top 6 pick? I wouldn't be too terribly surprised if we took him at this point...i.e. we have picked up some quality linemen on both sides of the ball. I guess i just don't trust a top tier running back that doesn't break many tackles or seem too shifty in space. Maybe he will be good, it just seems so risky for a top 10 pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 btw for the guy said you dont take a RB to split carries at 6?? They took adrian peterson at 7 and he split carries with chester taylor.. some people just dont think.. What do you have me on ignore? I'm right here. I meant people say "no split carries back at 6, no RT at 6, no #2 CB at 6, no pass rush specialist at 6" and we will almost certainly be taking one of those positions, so using the argument against any particular player is not effective unless you are offering somebody that doesn't fit those categories. The fact that many teams were not looking for a back contributed to Peterson going seventh and not higher. FWIW, I want the BAP, I'm just not so sure that McFadden will be the BAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetpower10 Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 Because if hes thebest player availiable.. and I dont trust the pats at 7.... god for bid they took him.. and he turned out to be a MONSTER... and tortured us for the next 8 years...I would be miserable.. we grab DMC at 6 they get Gholsten at 7 per say. then we have gholsten terrorizing clemens or pennington or whomever the hell that starts at qb this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 If the guy is the ultimate game breaker that everyone keeps saying he is, why would the five teams in front of the Jets pass on him????? Becuase they either have RB's or see other pressing needs that players in that top group fill. Peterson dropped to 7 last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 we grab DMC at 6 they get Gholsten at 7 per say. then we have gholsten terrorizing clemens or pennington or whomever the hell that starts at qb this yearWhat makes Gholsten a 100% sure thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetpower10 Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 What makes Gholsten a 100% sure thing? if we get dmc they will go for gholsten. 1 they need a olb due to them releasing colvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Favorite_Toon Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 why with our new O line T rich at FB, Jones and Washington will be just fine i dont have a problem with getting DMC just dont see why we need him now. Becuase they either have RB's or see other pressing needs that players in that top group fill. Peterson dropped to 7 last year. Same here.. nobody in the top 5 needs mcfadden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 if we get dmc they will go for gholsten. 1 they need a olb due to them releasing colvin OK. Let them have him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetpower10 Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 OK. Let them have him. to hell with that. rather have gholsten. dmc cant break a tackle for ****. besides the fact we are set at the rb with jones and washington. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 to hell with that. rather have gholsten. dmc cant break a tackle for ****. besides the fact we are set at the rb with jones and washington. Jones is mediocre and Washington is a 3rd down scat back. You don't turn down a player with MdFadden's upside for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 Jones is mediocre and Washington is a 3rd down scat back. You don't turn down a player with MdFadden's upside for that. WOuld you be against drafting Mendenhall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 WOuld you be against drafting Mendenhall? At 6? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 Is DMC that good? YES. He's the most dynamic and dominating SEC tailback since Bo Jackson and Hershal Walker. He's a probable superstar. Why wouldn't he go higher? Needs is part of it, the other part of it is contractually giving 30 or 20 mil to a running back not what alot of teams want to do. He's a perfect fit for the Jets because he doesn't replace Thomas Jones or Leon Washington. He replaces Brad Smith. Slash player, can take snaps at QB,WR and RB, not every team has that package, and not every team will run their backs that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 Is DMC that good? YES. He's the most dynamic and dominating SEC tailback since Bo Jackson and Hershal Walker. He's a probable superstar. Herschel Walker sucked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 At 6? Yes. Mendenhall will be a better running back than McFadden. Im willing to put serious money on that as well. Sorry, a guy running upright through enormous holes untouched doesnt lead me to believe he's going to be a great player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drago Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 At 6? Yes. What's wrong with Mendenhall at 6? All intents and purposes he should be better than DMC, pending on view point. DMC played in the SEC where you all claim is world class speed, and he dominated. Mendenhall played on a weak Big Ten team, and dominated. Big Ten always has NFL talent on defense, every year...the clincher is that Illinois never has that good of an Oline, yet Rashard still produced. (that and he went to tictac's high school, so he has to be good ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 Is he doesn't replace Thomas Jones or Leon Washington. He replaces Brad Smith. Slash player, can take snaps at QB,WR and RB, not every team has that package, and not every team will run their backs that way. That's an awful, awful way to build an offense. Gimmicks work in college. They dont work in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 What's wrong with Mendenhall at 6? All intents and purposes he should be better than DMC, pending on view point. DMC played in the SEC where you all claim is world class speed, and he dominated. Mendenhall played on a weak Big Ten team, and dominated. Big Ten always has NFL talent on defense, every year...the clincher is that Illinois never has that good of an Oline, yet Rashard still produced. (that and he went to tictac's high school, so he has to be good ) Mendenhall tore up USC. A team that had faster overall defense than any team in the SEC. LSU's defense wasnt awesome this year, which seems to be the argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 Is DMC that good? YES. He's the most dynamic and dominating SEC tailback since Bo Jackson and Hershal Walker. He's a probable superstar. Why wouldn't he go higher? Needs is part of it, the other part of it is contractually giving 30 or 20 mil to a running back not what alot of teams want to do. He's a perfect fit for the Jets because he doesn't replace Thomas Jones or Leon Washington. He replaces Brad Smith. Slash player, can take snaps at QB,WR and RB, not every team has that package, and not every team will run their backs that way. I agree, but I don't want a Slash at #6. I hate what I've seen from McFadden as a runner. That's okay though, I've despised the styles of plenty of successful NFL backs. Dorsett, Smith, Dickerson, Joe Morris, I hated them all. How is he as a receiver? It may be the most sensible way to deal with the lack of a #1 or #3 (depending on how you look at it) WR. Herschel Walker sucked. False. Hershel Walker did not live up to his college career or the huge value given up for him in the trade. He did not suck. It's all perception. 3/4's of the mooks on this site will jump up and down yelling that J Abraham sucked and now they are screaming to give any stiff that has half the pass rushing ability a bigger contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 I agree, but I don't want a Slash at #6. I hate what I've seen from McFadden as a runner. That's okay though, I've despised the styles of plenty of successful NFL backs. Dorsett, Smith, Dickerson, Joe Morris, I hated them all. How is he as a receiver? It may be the most sensible way to deal with the lack of a #1 or #3 (depending on how you look at it) WR. False. Hershel Walker did not live up to his college career or the huge value given up for him in the trade. He did not suck. It's all perception. 3/4's of the mooks on this site will jump up and down yelling that J Abraham sucked and now they are screaming to give any stiff that has half the pass rushing ability a bigger contract. Fine...he didnt suck. He had one good season and that's about it... unless were counting what he did in the USFL He wasnt a fluid runner at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 Fine...he didnt suck. He had one good season and that's about it... unless were counting what he did in the USFL He wasnt a fluid runner at all. Well... he was all pro twice, averaged 4.2ypc for his career, had over 1,000 yards rushing twice, over 10 TDs twice, five years over 50 receptions-two over 75, nine seasons over 1,000 yards from scrimmage-three over 1,500, one over 2,000, all after spending his first few prime years in the USFL. Sorry for all the stats, but I just had a battle with somebody over this very subject. In fact, Walker may have been one of the all time steals of the draft fifth round, especially when you consider what the Cowboys got for him. As for being a fluid runner, I don't think there were many guys less fluid, but beauty doesn't deliver the mail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 Well... he was all pro twice, averaged 4.2ypc for his career, had over 1,000 yards rushing twice, over 10 TDs twice, five years over 50 receptions-two over 75, nine seasons over 1,000 yards from scrimmage-three over 1,500, one over 2,000, all after spending his first few prime years in the USFL. Sorry for all the stats, but I just had a battle with somebody over this very subject. In fact, Walker may have been one of the all time steals of the draft fifth round, especially when you consider what the Cowboys got for him. As for being a fluid runner, I don't think there were many guys less fluid, but beauty doesn't deliver the mail. Agree to disagree. Just was never really impressed with Herschel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 Agree to disagree. Just was never really impressed with Herschel. Oh, I would never argue that you should be impressed. I'd only argue that he didn't suck. He may not have been the greatest back of all time, but plenty of worse backs have been coronated by fans. I never liked his style much either, but I always supported him because my father was an AFL fan and I was a USFL fan. Fight the power! **** the Man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 Is DMC that good? YES. He's the most dynamic and dominating SEC tailback since Bo Jackson and Hershal Walker. He's a probable superstar. Why wouldn't he go higher? Needs is part of it, the other part of it is contractually giving 30 or 20 mil to a running back not what alot of teams want to do. He's a perfect fit for the Jets because he doesn't replace Thomas Jones or Leon Washington. He replaces Brad Smith. Slash player, can take snaps at QB,WR and RB, not every team has that package, and not every team will run their backs that way. POTW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 Since when has a gimmick slash type of player ever worked in the NFL? Yeah, it doesnt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Favorite_Toon Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 Since when has a gimmick slash type of player ever worked in the NFL? Yeah, it doesnt. wtf? hes not a gmick... they dont run a gimick offense... oh so felix jones is better right? because they stop using the gimick once he runs the ball.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 wtf? hes not a gmick... they dont run a gimick offense... oh so felix jones is better right? because they stop using the gimick once he runs the ball.. Im talking about in the NFL. You honestly think lining McFadden up at QB is going to work? Please. College teams can run gimmicks because they work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 Im talking about in the NFL. You honestly think lining McFadden up at QB is going to work? Please. College teams can run gimmicks because they work. dude wake up, Vince Young won rookie of the year, pure gimmick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 dude wake up, Vince Young won rookie of the year, pure gimmick. Now we're comparing DMC to Vince Young? Damn, now were really getting desperate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Favorite_Toon Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 Since when has a gimmick slash type of player ever worked in the NFL? Yeah, it doesnt. Now we're comparing DMC to Vince Young? Damn, now were really getting desperate. Look the plays were hes lining up at qb wil not happen in the nfl..hes not brad smith..(thank god) but plays like LT makes throwing the ball will..and hes good at it.. its just another dimension.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 Things that scare the hell out of me with DMC: -He has absolutely no forward lean at all -His legs are toothpicks -Many of his long runs came out of a gimmick set that will not work in the NFL -He's 6'1 and runs like he's 6'6 -Doesnt lower his pad level at the first level of attack -Hasnt shown consisten ability to break tackles He is very fast though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetpower10 Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 Jones is mediocre and Washington is a 3rd down scat back. You don't turn down a player with MdFadden's upside for that. **** dmc. go stewart. stewart is overall a better rb in my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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