Zeebers Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 Period. This guy has no idea what he's doing and Billy Wagner just pretty much told you that he does not have much respect in that clubhouse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Moses Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 Period. This guy has no idea what he's doing and Billy Wagner just pretty much told you that he does not have much respect in that clubhouse. After the meltdown last year and to start off the same way this year... I really don't know what it is he brings to the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 Wagner's a bitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 This team is very flawed in the hitting order and in the pitching staff-Randolph's choice of relievers in certain sitautions are most troubling to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Moses Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 I'm curious, how many starting pitchers in oh the last five years have missed the first 39 games because they pulled a hammy on opening day? Dunno, I'd like to think that was an avoidable injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeebers Posted May 16, 2008 Author Share Posted May 16, 2008 Wagner's a bitch. Wagner never said anything that isn't true and he's not afraid to call out anyone. You have to respect a guy for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 This team is very flawed in the hitting order and in the pitching staff-Randolph's choice of relievers in certain sitautions are most troubling to me.I like Randolph as a Yankee fan.But how much of this is on Minaya allowing the inevitable pitching mess he invited by depending on Martinez and El Duque? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 I like Randolph as a Yankee fan.But how much of this is on Minaya allowing the inevitable pitching mess he invited by depending on Martinez and El Duque? If this continues Minaya has to take some of the blame also- he did not shore up the bullpen and the lineup has holes and age in it. The Church trade is the one move that has been good this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 Omar is scouting the Puerto Rican Minor leagues as we speak for Willies replacement.. He is kicking himself for hiring a damn guy from North America Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Moses Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 If this continues Minaya has to take some of the blame also- he did not shore up the bullpen and the lineup has holes and age in it. The Church trade is the one move that has been good this year. I feel bad for Church and Santana. I can't stand Sosa. Wasn't Mota the guy the Mets should have kept instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 Wagner's a bitch. Maybe, but he's right. There is a clear faction in the clubhouse, and its split on racial lines. Moises Alou and maybe Johan are the only hispanic players on that team who are a positive influence on the locker room. The rest don't care. Maybe when the weather warms up (the latin players perform far better in warm weather), the bats start hitting, and the team starts winning, things will get better. Winning always makes a bad situation better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 (the latin players perform far better in warm weather Yes, but those white guys, they get all worn down in August, being ice people and all, not being used to the sun. Sadly David Wright's Euro forbears kept out of the sun with their fair skin, while those of Jose Reyes were conditioned to long working hours under the tropical midday sky. (I'm strictly having fun with this; take no offense). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 The Mets have way too many players who are flat out dogs. Willie doesnt help though, he seriously has no presence at all and his decision making skills leave alot to be desired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSFAN5180 Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 LOL The Willie Randolph love affair is over LOL. Maybe bring back Bobby Valentine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeebers Posted May 16, 2008 Author Share Posted May 16, 2008 LOL The Willie Randolph love affair is over LOL. Maybe bring back Bobby Valentine. There was never a Willie Randolph love affair. Most Mets fans would tell you it was a mistake from the beginning. The guy's a moron. Bobby V did a great job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Bit Special Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 I feel bad for Church and Santana. I can't stand Sosa. Wasn't Mota the guy the Mets should have kept instead? Mota sucked. We traded him away for Johnny Estrada and then non-tendered Estrada. We just gave him away. Sosa was decent LY in long relief and spot starter. This year he sucked. We could have used Burgos this year, but he is injured. and the only relief guy in the minors pitching well is Carlos Muniz. Tony Armas and Ruddy Lugo are pitching well as starters in AAA, but only Lugo is on the 40 man roster.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Bit Special Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 There was never a Willie Randolph love affair. Most Mets fans would tell you it was a mistake from the beginning. The guy's a moron. Bobby V did a great job. I didnt like Willie from the start, but was told by fellow mets fans to give him time, he's still learning. Well, he is the same piece of crap that I saw in 2005. He sucks. He cant handle veterans. He cant handle young guys. nobody respects him. he is terrible with strategy. Bobby V. sure he was good, but he ran his course in NY. It was time for him to go. His act grew old. Next manager of the Mets---- Jerry Manuel. Bet on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Bit Special Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 oh by the way, Willie will be a coach on the NL all star team. Hurdle has asked New York Mets manager Willie Randolph and San Diego Padres manager Bud Black to join him as the N.L. coaches. The Colorado coaching staff - pitching coach Bob Apodaca, hitting coach Alan ****rell, third base/infield coach Mike Gallego, first base coach Glenallen Hill, bullpen coach Rick Mathews and bench coach Jamie Quirk - will serve on the manager's staff. Hope he lasts until then... it would be a shame if he is fired before then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Moses Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 Mota sucked. We traded him away for Johnny Estrada and then non-tendered Estrada. We just gave him away. Sosa was decent LY in long relief and spot starter. This year he sucked. We could have used Burgos this year, but he is injured. I hear ya, sizzle chest. Sosa, Mota, Pedro... After a while it just becomes scrabble in my brain. Thanks for the clarification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 I like Randolph as a Yankee fan.But how much of this is on Minaya allowing the inevitable pitching mess he invited by depending on Martinez and El Duque? Granted but as a team they are just not hitting. Especially in the clutch. Look at Thurs. nite against the Nats , Pelfrey pitches 7 1/3 of 1 run , 3 hit ball and takes a loss? It's been like that all year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 There was never a Willie Randolph love affair. Most Mets fans would tell you it was a mistake from the beginning. The guy's a moron. Bobby V did a great job. Bobby V injected some fire into the Mets. I had thought they might have brought him back during the last managerial search. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicBizkit87 Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 Granted but as a team they are just not hitting. Especially in the clutch. Look at Thurs. nite against the Nats , Pelfrey pitches 7 1/3 of 1 run , 3 hit ball and takes a loss? It's been like that all year. It's been that way for the Yankees as well. Chien-Ming Wang in his last two outings, one against Cleveland, 7 IP, 5 hits, 3 runs, and the Yankees scored 0 runs that game, and he lost, because the team can't hit. Wang's last start against Tampa, 7 IP, 7 hits, 1 run, he got the no decision, and the team ended up losing in Extra Innings. Neither of these teams are hitting, and the both of them are making average bums look like the best pitcher in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 It's been that way for the Yankees as well. Chien-Ming Wang in his last two outings, one against Cleveland, 7 IP, 5 hits, 3 runs, and the Yankees scored 0 runs that game, and he lost, because the team can't hit. Wang's last start against Tampa, 7 IP, 7 hits, 1 run, he got the no decision, and the team ended up losing in Extra Innings. Neither of these teams are hitting, and the both of them are making average bums look like the best pitcher in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicBizkit87 Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 if you're tired then go to sleep... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Bit Special Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 Bobby V injected some fire into the Mets. I had thought they might have brought him back during the last managerial search. His ship has sailed. He will never manage the Mets again... too much personality for the Wilpons.. something none of the Wilpons have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Bit Special Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 I hear ya, sizzle chest. Sosa, Mota, Pedro... After a while it just becomes scrabble in my brain. Thanks for the clarification. I had to look it up since I couldnt remember all the crappy latin relief pitchers we had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 Carlos Beltran might be the biggest vagina I've ever seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 I had to look it up since I couldnt remember all the crappy latin relief pitchers we had. There's been a lot of em that's for sure. Too many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 Carlos Beltran might be the biggest vagina I've ever seen. Thanks for the input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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