Boynton Beach Jets Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 I agree to a point. Its not fair to compare Mangini to BB but those comparisons have been made many times here and in the NY media. Mangini didn't have to deal with Hurricane Katrina like Payton did. The Saints were 3-13 in 2005. Payton took over in 2006 after that. 2006: 10-6 (NFC South Champs). 2007: 7-9. 2008: 7-6 so far. I think there is a lot Mangini has to improve on, but what the Jets need most of all is continuity. When we change coach's they want to rightfully bring in their own philosophy therefore they make a changes then you need to turn over your personal to fit that philosophy. We had 3-4 personal with Parcels/Groh then Edwards comes in we draft and acquire 4-3 players like Vilma, Robertson & others. Mangini comes in we become 3-4 defense again and 4-3 like Vilma & Robertson are out dated for this philosophy. We finally get a 3-4 NT in Kris Jenkins in the 3rd year which is vital to making the 3-4 go and after 1 year we want to scrap the whole thing. The same thing can be said for our offensive philosophy. The Jets need to allow continuity run ts course and not keep on making these knee jerk changes because if they do it will be another 3-4 year turnover and there are only so many of these in my lifetime! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Yup, Beliprick be da man. The Patrots have the Chargers 2nd round pick next draft. Just lose Norv baby:lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 another way to interpret the demise of the belicheat coaching tree is they just aren't the same when they don't know what's coming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 The Patrots have the Chargers 2nd round pick next draft. Just lose Norv baby:lol: does it matter mumbles 2nd rd history...not too good skippy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 another way to interpret the demise of the belicheat coaching tree is they just aren't the same when they don't know what's coming Why would a Pats fan (like me) give a flying fark about the coaches who left the team and sucked? BTW: Thanks for not responding to my earlier post about Herm and Mangini. Are you a Jets fan or more of a Patriot hater? You mention the Pats more than I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Why would a Pats fan (like me) give a flying fark about the coaches who left the team and sucked? BTW: Thanks for not responding to my earlier post about Herm and Mangini. Are you a Jets fan or more of a Patriot hater? You mention the Pats more than I do. lol you troll a jets board and come up with that one ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 lol you troll a jets board and come up with that one ? Do I have to say this again? I was invited to this board in 2005. You joined in August. Can you answer the question I asked about Herm/Mangini/Pats suck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsis Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Do I have to say this again? I was invited to this board in 2005. You joined in August. Can you answer the question I asked about Herm/Mangini/Pats suck? Consider this your un-invitation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Consider this your un-invitation! Thanks mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 does it matter mumbles 2nd rd history...not too good skippy With NE's pick, yes. He gets 2 chances to get it right this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 I think those douchebags "duped" us into drafting Vernon Gholston and Dewayne Robertson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 I don't buy that for a second........ I don't think Woody Johnson doesn't care about this team like a lot of people but I just don't think he knows ****-all about hiring the right people to run it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 I think those douchebags "duped" us into drafting Vernon Gholston and Dewayne Robertson. You sound the like Jet players blaming the media for losing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 That bastard BB. All I can picture reading this thread is that HUGE 3-way hug they all gave each other in the SB right before they parted ways. That was damn good acting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 great article by Newsday I also hear that Mumbles is now pushing Dean Pees for Jets new DC stay tuned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted December 10, 2008 Author Share Posted December 10, 2008 great article by Newsday I also hear that Mumbles is now pushing Dean Pees for Jets new DC stay tuned and Sharon Shenocca for Team 'Morale' Coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serphnx Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 I think there is a lot Mangini has to improve on, but what the Jets need most of all is continuity. When we change coach's they want to rightfully bring in their own philosophy therefore they make a changes then you need to turn over your personal to fit that philosophy. We had 3-4 personal with Parcels/Groh then Edwards comes in we draft and acquire 4-3 players like Vilma, Robertson & others. Mangini comes in we become 3-4 defense again and 4-3 like Vilma & Robertson are out dated for this philosophy. We finally get a 3-4 NT in Kris Jenkins in the 3rd year which is vital to making the 3-4 go and after 1 year we want to scrap the whole thing. The same thing can be said for our offensive philosophy. The Jets need to allow continuity run ts course and not keep on making these knee jerk changes because if they do it will be another 3-4 year turnover and there are only so many of these in my lifetime! Jenkins played in the 4-3 just last year you know. Even went to the Pro Bowl in the 4-3. There's nobody on the defense that isn't more familiar with the 4-3. It's not like Mangini coached them, so all they truly know effectively is the 4-3 or nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 Do I have to say this again? I was invited to this board in 2005. You joined in August. Can you answer the question I asked about Herm/Mangini/Pats suck? you've obviously mistaken me for someone who gives a **** about your posts please stop quoting me, replying to me and stalking me it's kinda creepy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 Do I have to say this again? I was invited to this board in 2005. You joined in August. Can you answer the question I asked about Herm/Mangini/Pats suck? We would like to think no, but in the end we know we will have to. Look at the bright side, once the inevitable happens, the bandwagoneers will thin out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 We would like to think no, but in the end we know we will have to. Look at the bright side, once the inevitable happens, the bandwagoneers will thin out. Thanks for the trollish input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boynton Beach Jets Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 Jenkins played in the 4-3 just last year you know. Even went to the Pro Bowl in the 4-3. There's nobody on the defense that isn't more familiar with the 4-3. It's not like Mangini coached them, so all they truly know effectively is the 4-3 or nothing. But my point is not guys like Jenkins who could play in any defense, it is each team has guys who can only play a certain system like Vilma & Roberson who could play the 4-3 but not a great fit for the 3-4. The Jets have guys like Pace and Thomas who are good in the 3-4 but are not fits for the 4-3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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