Morrissey Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 But he's a hell of a catcher. Since when? The only thing he has going for him is his "leadership" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbro22 Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Since when? The only thing he has going for him is his "leadership" I hear hes a "good guy". And apparently that warrants an all star game appearance. Brett Gardner's a good guy, I don't see him out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted January 25, 2009 Author Share Posted January 25, 2009 Since when? The only thing he has going for him is his "leadership" His teammates love him. I will go out on a limb and say the Red Sox clubhouse is much closer than the Yankees clubhouse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 His teammates love him. I will go out on a limb and say the Red Sox clubhouse is much closer than the Yankees clubhouse. How cute. By the way, still waiting for you to admit you where wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbro22 Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 His teammates love him. I will go out on a limb and say the Red Sox clubhouse is much closer than the Yankees clubhouse. Yeah, up until that Manny trade that clubhouse was on the verge of exploding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Apparently the Red Sox are pretty close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted January 25, 2009 Author Share Posted January 25, 2009 How cute. By the way, still waiting for you to admit you where wrong. Where was I wrong? The Yankees are paying the guy $22.5 million a year..............guaranteed. Have fun with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbro22 Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Where was I wrong? The Yankees are paying the guy $22.5 million a year..............guaranteed. Have fun with that. My owner cares more about me, then your owner cares about you. Have fun with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted January 25, 2009 Author Share Posted January 25, 2009 My owner cares more about me, then your owner cares about you. Have fun with that. WTF does that mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Where was I wrong? The Yankees are paying the guy $22.5 million a year..............guaranteed. Have fun with that. 1. Umm.....I'm going to fault the Yankees for paying over market value for both ARod and Texiera. The other 29 teams didn't bid against themselves like the Yankees did. Obviously the Yankees didn't pay over market value, since more than one team made offers ranging from $160-$184 million for 8 years. Here are my sources: http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-angels14-2008dec14,0,474654.story http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3782228 http://washington.nationals.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081210&content_id=3711491&vkey=news_was&fext=.jsp&c_id=was http://masnsports.com/2008/12/for-teixeira-the-choice-was-ya.html 2. They did. The Sox bowed out on December 19th. The Yankees signed him on January 5th. Boras and Tex took the money. There is nothing wrong with that. Do you really believe the Red Sox bowed out? I do. The current ownership doesn't give players 8 year deals. The last time they gave a player that kind of a deal was with Manny when Duquette was calling the shots. The Sox don't have an endless supply of revenue like the Yankees do so they look to the future when offering players huge money. Obviously the Red Sox didn't bow out, they where talking to Boras the day Teixera signed with the Yankees. And obviously the current ownership where willing to give Teixeira an 8 year contract ranging from $165 million to $170 million. Here are my sources: http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3782228 http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2008/12/20/are_teixeira_negotiations_numbered/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted January 25, 2009 Author Share Posted January 25, 2009 1. Obviously the Yankees didn't pay over market value, since more than one team made offers ranging from $160-$184 million for 8 years. Here are my sources: http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-angels14-2008dec14,0,474654.story http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3782228 http://washington.nationals.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081210&content_id=3711491&vkey=news_was&fext=.jsp&c_id=was http://masnsports.com/2008/12/for-teixeira-the-choice-was-ya.html 2. Obviously the Red Sox didn't bow out, they where talking to Boras the day Teixera signed with the Yankees. And obviously the current ownership where willing to give Teixeira an 8 year contract ranging from $165 million to $170 million. Here are my sources: http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3782228 http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2008/12/20/are_teixeira_negotiations_numbered/ I don't see an offer for $180 million from the Red Sox. What is your point? If the Yankees don't win the World Series this year it will be an epic fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 I don't see an offer for $180 million from the Red Sox. What is your point? If the Yankees don't win the World Series this year it will be an epic fail. Everything you have said in this thread is an epic fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
talisaynon Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 I don't see an offer for $180 million from the Red Sox. What is your point? If the Yankees don't win the World Series this year it will be an epic fail. Why? Because we've cut payroll? I don't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Boras has done well in the past. This season the owners are telling him to go F himself. The Red Sox didn't want to sign Teixera to an 8 year contract. The Yankees did for a guaranteed $180 million. $22.5 million a year. True. Problem is Boras doesn't seem to recognize that the economic conditions have drastically altered the market. What teams did at the time of A-rod's Texas contract and now are 2 different worlds. Nobody much cares for his SABR-centric analysis of selling his clients unless salary is tied to expected production. The era of silly contracts is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Will we start seeing players not even thinking about hiring him as their agent? From what I've read a couple of teams won't even talk to him and he currently has Manny and Varitek as clients who are still unemployed. The Dodgers had a 2 year, $50 million deal on the table for Manny in November and Boras shot it down. The Sox also had a $8-$10 million 1 year deal on the table for Varitek and Boras shot it down. Thoughts? I'd love to see this POS loose every one of his clients. I know he won't but I can dream can't I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 1. Obviously the Yankees didn't pay over market value, since more than one team made offers ranging from $160-$184 million for 8 years. Here are my sources: http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-angels14-2008dec14,0,474654.story http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3782228 http://washington.nationals.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081210&content_id=3711491&vkey=news_was&fext=.jsp&c_id=was http://masnsports.com/2008/12/for-teixeira-the-choice-was-ya.html 2. Obviously the Red Sox didn't bow out, they where talking to Boras the day Teixera signed with the Yankees. And obviously the current ownership where willing to give Teixeira an 8 year contract ranging from $165 million to $170 million. Here are my sources: http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3782228 http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2008/12/20/are_teixeira_negotiations_numbered/ Just what are you talking about? Any point to it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Just what are you talking about? Any point to it ? Read the thread, it's not my job to clue you in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Everything you have said in this thread is an epic fail. Dream on Susan. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Read the thread, it's not my job to clue you in. You obviously have no clue but just like to babble on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 You obviously have no clue but just like to babble on. Do you have anything productive to say, or are you just here to flame? If that's the case, and you have nothing to contribute, I'll go ahead and ignore you, because I'm not here for this childish nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Do you have anything productive to say, or are you just here to flame? . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 So because you are a Red Sox fan, you have to be a complete douche? Is that how it works? I'm more than willing to have friendly and honest debate with Red Sox or Mets fans, what I'm not interested in is a pissing contest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted January 30, 2009 Author Share Posted January 30, 2009 He told Tek to turn down a for sure 10-12 million in arbitration. He'll be LUCKY to get half of that. Great call. As we saw today Tek will make $5 mill next year with a club option for 2010. Its a win for the Sox, as they wanted him back, and a big loss for Boras and Tek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT STALKER Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 Great call. As we saw today Tek will make $5 mill next year with a club option for 2010. Its a win for the Sox, as they wanted him back, and a big loss for Boras and Tek. It's incentive driven now just like the contract Pettitte signed several days ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted January 30, 2009 Author Share Posted January 30, 2009 It's incentive driven now just like the contract Pettitte signed several days ago. The key is that the incentives don't kick in until 2010. If the Sox decline the 2010 option then Varitek can except it for a guaranteed $3 mill and all the different incentives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT STALKER Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 The key is that the incentives don't kick in until 2010. If the Sox decline the 2010 option then Varitek can except it for a guaranteed $3 mill and all the different incentives. Mauer will be your catcher in 2010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted January 30, 2009 Author Share Posted January 30, 2009 Mauer will be your catcher in 2010. I'm thinking the same thing. Varitek has fallen off a cliff offensively the last couple of seasons and I'll be very surprised if he is a starting catcher on any team in 2010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 Mauer will be your catcher in 2010. Mauer isn't a free agent next year, he won't be a free agent until 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT STALKER Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 Mauer isn't a free agent next year, he won't be a free agent until 2011. You're right. 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 You're right. 2011. I'm pretty sure the Red Sox aren't even thinking that far down the line, it's one thing to look towards next offseason, like the Yankees did with Sabathia, it's another to think 2 years from now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT STALKER Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 I'm pretty sure the Red Sox aren't even thinking that far down the line, it's one thing to look towards next offseason, like the Yankees did with Sabathia, it's another to think 2 years from now. http://www.overthemonster.com/2008/12/23/700537/red-sox-interested-in-joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 http://www.overthemonster.com/2008/12/23/700537/red-sox-interested-in-joe They where also VERY interested in Mark Teixeira, he's in pinstripes now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT STALKER Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 They where also VERY interested in Mark Teixeira, he's in pinstripes now. I'm not saying they will get him definitely...if Posada's arm is shot, I doubt the Yanks will promote within unless someone really steps up and big. So, they could be in the bidding as well...this guy (Mauer) will command big time bucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 Mauer will be your catcher in 2010. I'm not saying they will get him definitely...if Posada's arm is shot, I doubt the Yanks will promote within unless someone really steps up and big. So, they could be in the bidding as well...this guy (Mauer) will command big time bucks. That is why they go get him next offseason before he hits the market. Make a deal the Twins cannot refuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 Remember, Joe Mauer is from Minnesota, they are building a new ball park, It might take a lot to get him to leave Minnesota. I wouldn't be surprised if the Twins sign him to an extension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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