flgreen Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 Super backlash to Big Apple bid Giants Blog By BART HUBBUCH Last Updated: 9:23 AM, May 24, 2010 Posted: 3:14 AM, May 24, 2010 IRVING, Texas -- The backlash already has started. New York hasn't even been awarded the 2014 Super Bowl yet, but the Big Apple already is getting blasted by skeptics and the disgruntled in advance of tomorrow's historic vote. Despite some of the most memorable championship games in NFL history being played in brutal weather and at least one Super Bowl being held in cold worse than what New Meadowlands Stadium might feel in mid-February four years from now, the idea of an open-air Big Game in the Northeast is being ridiculed. Conspiracy theories also abound as New York's competitors for Super Bowl XLVIII grumble about too much influence from NFL commissioner Roger Goodell causing the owners to unfairly coronate the joint Giants-Jets bid over Tampa and South Florida. "Super Bowl race appears to be rigged for N.Y." screamed the headline in yesterday's Tampa Tribune. The newspaper called New York's bid "the worst idea since Dustin Hoffman and Warren Beatty [filmed] 'Ishtar" ' and said, "Unless reason prevails . . . NFL owners [are] about to be led down a slushy path by a commissioner determined to reward New York for building a new home for the Giants and Jets." Some owners (but not nearly enough to deny New York's bid) have balked at the prospect of a New York "Snow Bowl," and the Jets are even facing opposition from within. Last week, Gang Green wideout Santonio Holmes -- a South Florida native -- said he is adamantly against the idea. But no one from New York's bid is running from the possibility of terrible weather in mid-February -- in fact, they're reveling in it. The Giants and Jets are playing up the chance of snow by saying it would make the game unique, despite the hardships on fans and sponsors already paying $1,000 face value for a Super Bowl ticket. What Tampa and New York's critics are overlooking is that 40- and 50-degree temperatures at the Meadowlands in mid-February -- while admittedly rare -- are not out of the question. If that happens, it would be roughly on par with the mid-50s kickoff temperature in Jacksonville, Fla., five years ago for the Patriots' 24-21 win over the Eagles in Super Bowl XXXIX. And cold weather is hardly an unknown in Super Bowl history. It's not unthinkable that the Meadowlands could be warmer than New Orleans was on Jan. 16, 1972. That's when the Cowboys beat the Dolphins in Super Bowl VI at open-air Tulane Stadium in temperatures that were 39 degrees at kickoff -- still the coldest Big Game on record -- and got colder throughout the day. The 1972 game and subsequent outdoor Super Bowls in the 1970s played in the 40s and low 50s helped to prompt the league to create a policy mandating that the Big Game couldn't be played in temps below 50 degrees. The owners made New York an exception to that rule in this case and are expected to make it official with tomorrow's vote. Then watch the Big Apple bashing begin. bhubbuch@nypost.com Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/giants/super_backlash_to_big_apple_bid_AcaUp9c9OrwlUQEkOfMdJP?CMP=OTC-rss&FEEDNAME=#ixzz0or0Z5yG5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowonejetfan Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 It is the Jets/Giants Manifest Destiny to get a Superbowl!!!! Only people it is bad for is PSL fence sitters waiting for the next price cut. Plus if it is really cold game day it gives guys like me a shot at getting a last minute SB ticket at a great price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 New York area- the biggest media capital- no way they were going to pass it up for a Super Bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman21 Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 Only people it is bad for is PSL fence sitters waiting for the next price cut. Where is the part in the PSL agreement that states PSL owners were guaranteed SB tix? Imagine the 20k PSL owner who gets shut out from SB tix... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 About 4PM today we have a Super Bowl in our backyard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyzmul Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 Poor Tampa feels left out because they have only hosted 3 Super Bowls. I'm not a huge fan of a cold-weather Super Bowl, but I'd rather walk through slush than go to a Super Bowl in that ****hole city of Tampa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 Where is the part in the PSL agreement that states PSL owners were guaranteed SB tix? Imagine the 20k PSL owner who gets shut out from SB tix... Even if the SB allowed PSL holders to buy tickets that stills leaves half the PSL fans out of luck as the stadium is double sold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 Even though I think the Super Bowl in NJ is a bad idea, people in Florida need to STFU. They act like it's their right to have half the SB games. Screw them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 Super backlash to Big Apple bid Giants Blog By BART HUBBUCH Last Updated: 9:23 AM, May 24, 2010 Posted: 3:14 AM, May 24, 2010 IRVING, Texas -- The backlash already has started. New York hasn't even been awarded the 2014 Super Bowl yet, but the Big Apple already is getting blasted by skeptics and the disgruntled in advance of tomorrow's historic vote. Despite some of the most memorable championship games in NFL history being played in brutal weather and at least one Super Bowl being held in cold worse than what New Meadowlands Stadium might feel in mid-February four years from now, the idea of an open-air Big Game in the Northeast is being ridiculed. Conspiracy theories also abound as New York's competitors for Super Bowl XLVIII grumble about too much influence from NFL commissioner Roger Goodell causing the owners to unfairly coronate the joint Giants-Jets bid over Tampa and South Florida. "Super Bowl race appears to be rigged for N.Y." screamed the headline in yesterday's Tampa Tribune. The newspaper called New York's bid "the worst idea since Dustin Hoffman and Warren Beatty [filmed] 'Ishtar" ' and said, "Unless reason prevails . . . NFL owners [are] about to be led down a slushy path by a commissioner determined to reward New York for building a new home for the Giants and Jets." . **** Tampa-Bay . I'm sure if the shoe were on the other foot they'd sing a different tune. The warmer Southern cities shouldn't have a monopoly on the Super Bowl. Spread it around. Same as the NFL draft. Give other cities and fans a shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 Even though I think the Super Bowl in NJ is a bad idea, people in Florida need to STFU. They act like it's their right to have half the SB games. Screw them. EXACTLY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 If we do get the SB who gets to buy the tickets Giants PSL holders or Jets PSL holders? If there are unsold PSL seats both Jets and Giants will the game be blacked out in the Metro NY area? You know some long time season ticket holders who have Jets and Giants PSL's for the same seats are going to be very pissed off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 If we do get the SB who gets to buy the tickets Giants PSL holders or Jets PSL holders? If there are unsold PSL seats both Jets and Giants will the game be blacked out in the Metro NY area? You know some long time season ticket holders who have Jets and Giants PSL's for the same seats are going to be very pissed off. Neither would get tickets automatically- the two teams in the super Bowl are allotted a certain amount of tickets though so hopefully the jets will be in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 Neither would get tickets automatically- the two teams in the super Bowl are allotted a certain amount of tickets though so hopefully the jets will be in it. You mean a PSL isn't ownership of the seat? Sounds a bit like false advertising. Maybe they should be required to call it an entry fee for the right to buy season tickets to a particular seat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 You mean a PSL isn't ownership of the seat? Sounds a bit like false advertising. Maybe they should be required to call it an entry fee for the right to buy season tickets to a particular seat. That is right you definitely do not own that seat for all events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn306 Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 If this reads right it looks like Season Ticket/PSL owners chances of getting tickets are very slim. http://tampabaysuperbowl.com/faqs.htm How are game tickets distributed? The demand for tickets to Super Bowl XLIII greatly exceeds the NFL's ability to accommodate the majority of fans interested in attending the game. The vast majority of Super Bowl tickets (approximately 75%) are distributed to the 32 NFL teams. The participating teams each receive 17.5% of the tickets, the non-participating teams receive 1.2% and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, as the host team, will receive 5%. The remaining 25.2% are controlled by the NFL and are distributed primarily to NFL affiliated companies, the broadcast network, corporate sponsors, media, VIP's charities, fans and the Host Committee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodWearsAGrayHoodie Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 You mean a PSL isn't ownership of the seat? Sounds a bit like false advertising. Maybe they should be required to call it an entry fee for the right to buy season tickets to a particular seat. That is right you definitely do not own that seat for all events. And that is true at every stadium that has PSLs not just Giants/Jets. Dallas PSL holders don't get a ticket to the SB when it is hosted their either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 And that is true at every stadium that has PSLs not just Giants/Jets. Dallas PSL holders don't get a ticket to the SB when it is hosted their either. I would bet that the high tier premium PSL owners at Dallas stadium will get the right to purchase SB tickets ahead of anyone else. I can't imagine that these rich local, long term holders of season tickets will be shut out by the Cowboys organization or the NFL. I suspect that would be the case in any major NFL market for the premium buyer. The set up where you have two teams sharing the same stadium presents a difficult political problem when it comes to taking care of your highest paying customers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowonejetfan Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 You mean a PSL isn't ownership of the seat? Sounds a bit like false advertising. Maybe they should be required to call it an entry fee for the right to buy season tickets to a particular seat. It is a seat lease for jet games only. And on top of that only for a minimun of 15 years. If Jets move in 15 years or after to new stadium seat is worthless. But Jets have to pay huge penalties if they move before 30 years so I doubt that will happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 That is right you definitely do not own that seat for all events. AND FOR ALL THAT MONEY !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 Poor Tampa feels left out because they have only hosted 3 Super Bowls. I'm not a huge fan of a cold-weather Super Bowl, but I'd rather walk through slush than go to a Super Bowl in that ****hole city of Tampa. That's a great image I hope the owners consider before voting-playing their premiere game in the Northeast at night in the dead of winter as frozen fans slog through snow, sleet and subzero temps. This whole idea is insane. The Super Bowl needs to be played in a warm weather site or indoors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 That's a great image I hope the owners consider before voting-playing their premiere game in the Northeast at night in the dead of winter as frozen fans slog through snow, sleet and subzero temps. This whole idea is insane. The Super Bowl needs to be played in a warm weather site or indoors. Who cares about the fan experience at the game itself? All they should be concerned about are the economic benefits and whether people will watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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