Chrebetfan80 Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 so far he's personally been at mariotas and now mannions pro day, does anyone know if he went to some of the other qb pro days? Certainly seems like we'll be looking at a qb in this draft at some point. For what it's worth it was reported that mannion had a really good day spinning the ball, it'll be interesting to see how this all plays out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 I hate Mannion less than most of the other crappy QBs in this class (anyone not Winston), but with only six picks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Drafting Mannion as a developmental project would be a good bet. He is similar to Flacco and Glennon but with a slightly weaker arm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Sean Mannion does not have a weak arm or weaker arm than Glennon . What he has is a problem stepping into his passes. He throws way too many passes falling away from the LOS and off the wrong leg. This is the QB I want to develop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Sean Mannion does not have a weak arm or weaker arm than Glennon . What he has is a problem stepping into his passes. He throws way too many passes falling away from the LOS and off the wrong leg. This is the QB I want to develop. I don't know much about him, but that is definitely an issue that can be resolved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Sean Mannion does not have a weak arm or weaker arm than Glennon . What he has is a problem stepping into his passes. He throws way too many passes falling away from the LOS and off the wrong leg. This is the QB I want to develop. Dan Marino had this issue and said he would look for this in a QB because in the NFL you can rarely get completely set and being successful in college throwing this way gives you a leg up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 That was my 1st issue with ark Sanchez before we picked him,. threw off his back foot. I really don't want to take a QB until the 4th round or later except perhaps grayson in the 3rd. This is one crappy qb class if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 That was my 1st issue with ark Sanchez before we picked him,. threw off his back foot. I really don't want to take a QB until the 4th round or later except perhaps grayson in the 3rd. This is one crappy qb class if you ask me. Guys, I am telling you, this is the kid we need to develop. The reason he throws off his back foot is because he didn't have any decent WRs to speak of last season with Cooks in Nawlins and Weaton in Steel town . If I remember correctly, Mannion was given a 3rd round grade after the 2013 season, but his 2014 season wasn't near as special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 NFL Media analyst Daniel Jeremiah mentioned Oregon State QB Sean Mannion as an example of a big pro-day riser. "Sean Mannion helped himself more than anybody else at his pro day," Jeremiah said. " ... A lot of people that went and saw both quarterbacks said 'Look, just off the pro day -- forget the tape -- Sean Mannion threw the ball much better than Marcus Mariota did.' He's got a strong arm, he's got ideal size, and he's played in that NFL system." We, for one, refuse to ignore the tape. This is what you see on it: Mannion struggles with pressure, leading to sacks and head-scratching interceptions. If you're looking for a late-round flier, we'd suggest several options before Mannion, but scouts refuse to give up on physical tools and Mannion's got those with a big arm and a 6-foot-5, 218-pound frame. "I think he's very much in the discussion with teams to be that No. 3 quarterback selected," Jeremiah said. The signal-caller was great in 2013, but he posted a horrific 46/39 TD/INT ratio in his other three seasons as starter (2011-'12, '14). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 He's who I want instead of Matt Simms. If I am going to waste my time on a developmental prospect at QB, it has to be on somebody who could actually become something. I already know what Simms won't be. By the way, if we were to draft Marriota, I would still spend my 7trh round pick on this kid if he's on the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Prefer him over Petty or Hundley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Kyle Boller part deux Brandin Cooks leaves Oregon state his yards decrease by 1,500 and he throws 22 less touchdowns! Oh and did I mention he takes a ton of sacks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Here we have a QB who starts his college Career with 2 receivers. In his 2nd year one of them leaves but his stats improves slightly. In his 3rd year, his stats go through the roof playing with the remaining WR who has been with him for 3 rears. In his 4th and final yr, with both his WRs now in the NFL, his stats fall off, but he still has a solid year. Meanwhile, the kid is playing behind some of the worst OLmen in college in a conference that is sending defensive players to the NFL in high rounds. Like I said, this is the kid I would like to develop. His issues are what you hire a QB coach to correct. We are talking about a last day pick on a prospect with superb upside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas2No99 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Didn't he also look horrible in the All-Star/Senior bowls? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Didn't he also look horrible in the All-Star/Senior bowls? Mannion had one good year in college chucking it to Brandin Cooks who always had his man best by 2-3 steps. Other than that his numbers are actually mediocre even for college. No pocket presence, no mobility. He's a worse version of Kyle Boller. Hopefully the jets are just doing due diligence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 The Doctor from Detroit is wrong, but he's entitled to his opinion. He's right about Scherff and Cooper, but wrong about Mannion. Mannion started as a freshman, and got better every single yr. His best yr was when he played with a WR he spent 2 yrs developing chemistry with in Brandin Cooks. He played with 2 NFL talents at Oregon state , and spent the majority of his time throwing off the wrong leg because he was always under pressure. Because of this, some question his arm strength. When Sean Mannion can step into his passes, nobody questions his arm strength as was evident at his pro day. When a QB who's not mobile is forced to throw while trying to avoid getting sack, what he did at Oregon State was remarkable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 The Doctor from Detroit is wrong, but he's entitled to his opinion. He's right about Scherff and Cooper, but wrong about Mannion. Mannion started as a freshman, and got better every single yr. His best yr was when he played with a WR he spent 2 yrs developing chemistry with in Brandin Cooks. He played with 2 NFL talents at Oregon state , and spent the majority of his time throwing off the wrong leg because he was always under pressure. Because of this, some question his arm strength. When Sean Mannion can step into his passes, nobody questions his arm strength as was evident at his pro day. When a QB who's not mobile is forced to throw while trying to avoid getting sack, what he did at Oregon State was remarkable. How would you compare him to Grayson from Colorado State? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 How would you compare him to Grayson from Colorado State? Favorably, but that's not the issue. Someone is going to grab Grayson way too early than he deserves to be taken. He's talented, but he's got a funky delivery, slow release and doesn't have the arm strength of Mannion. Lastly, Mannion can be had with a 6th or maybe a 7th round pick. I prefer to develop a QB who is already versed in a pro style read at the LOS offense and won't be forced to start him before he's ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 more from the pro day. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jaZMtVrsRo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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