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Vote Count

 

LZM (4) - 80, AJ, JC, SMC

SMC (3) - Crusher, LZM, Nolder

Nolder (2) - Dice, JiF

AJ (1) - Pac

Smash (1) - Ape

JC (1) - Smash

 

 

With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch. 

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Vote Count

 

SMC (4) - Crusher, LZM, Nolder, AJ

LZM (3) - 80, JC, SMC

Nolder (2) - Dice, JiF

AJ (1) - Pac

Smash (1) - Ape

JC (1) - Smash

 

 

With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch. 

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BTW, I think the countdown thing is detrimental to the town.

The scum benefit from dragging this out and if they don't have to commit to lynch anyone and, instead, meerly have to wait out the clock, the town is screwed.

Think about it--it takes 8 to lynch the last 2 phases, but scum benefits from the fact that 2 townies are dead based on 4 votes each.

Something to consider in future game mechanics.

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7 hours ago, Integrity28 said:

Derp. Didn't I just say it had nothing to do with activity? 

 youre an Idiot :)

Activity consists of posts, so which post of the very few I made on day 1 pointed you in the direction of me being scum ? Or did you just pull that out of your ass like normal?

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25 minutes ago, SMC said:

BTW, I think the countdown thing is detrimental to the town.

The scum benefit from dragging this out and if they don't have to commit to lynch anyone and, instead, meerly have to wait out the clock, the town is screwed.

Think about it--it takes 8 to lynch the last 2 phases, but scum benefits from the fact that 2 townies are dead based on 4 votes each.

Something to consider in future game mechanics.

 

Agreed.  With the lower activity we've had in games lately, it makes more sense to me to make deadlines more fluid.  Installing a deadline only when needed and such. 

This strict 48 hr day/24 hr night type thing that's done on DM and other places is for the birds.  I mean, what's the rush?

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13 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

 

Agreed.  With the lower activity we've had in games lately, it makes more sense to me to make deadlines more fluid.  Installing a deadline only when needed and such. 

This strict 48 hr day/24 hr night type thing that's done on DM and other places is for the birds.  I mean, what's the rush?

Exactly, and it doesn't have the deterrent of random kill for no lynch because the scum don't have to fear if they only have to get 4 votes to lynch someone because of the deadline rather than 8. 

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Well no one ever wants to lynch inactives early so things like hybrid hammer is the response from the moderator to salvage games from low activity players.

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22 minutes ago, Nolder said:

Well no one ever wants to lynch inactives early so things like hybrid hammer is the response from the moderator to salvage games from low activity players.

If players were hiding intentionally and it was obvious, we'd want to lynch those players. 

But using that as a strategy to discourage lower activity (a punishment) or killing off the lesser active players just so we could end up with higher active players remaining later in the game simply wouldn't make sense on JN.  A lot of the players are consistently low activity people who play when they can, and add value to the game when they do. 

Do you suggest we kill off, say, Smash on D1/D2 every game?  That would get old fast. 

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D2 Final Vote Count

SMC (4) - Crusher, LZM, Nolder, AJ

LZM (3) - 80, JC, SMC

Nolder (2) - Dice, JiF

AJ (1) - Pac

Smash (1) - Ape

JC (1) - Smash

 

It's a lynch.

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13 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

If players were hiding intentionally and it was obvious, we'd want to lynch those players. 

But using that as a strategy to discourage lower activity (a punishment) or killing off the lesser active players just so we could end up with higher active players remaining later in the game simply wouldn't make sense on JN.  A lot of the players are consistently low activity people who play when they can, and add value to the game when they do. 

Do you suggest we kill off, say, Smash on D1/D2 every game?  That would get old fast. 

We can discuss it more later since we all have in game biases going on right now but, yes Smash should be lynched D1 every game until he changes how he plays or I guess until he just quits playing.

I know that sounds harsh but if a community actually did this and weeded out people who are a chronic activity problem their games would be amazingly active and I think you might also find surprisingly more fulfilling than many of the games we have now.

I want to be clear. I am not trying to knock anyone or anything and Smash was just one example I'm not singling him out and it's not like I don't like the guy. Nor am I particularly unhappy with games on JN. It might be this just wouldn't work on JN anyway because you guys are too good of friends with each other to exclude anyone even to the detriment of the game. I'm just saying that if you want more active games the only reliable way to get them is to self police your community of players.

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