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some positives

Shell played a decent game, PFF said he allowed one pressure and was the highest rated player on our offense :o

Adams looked decent made some nice plays, already has made more plays in one game than pryor did almost his entire career. 

kearse looks like a nice possession receiver. 

Ealy and Martin looked good on defense. 

Edwards had some good punts (plus a shank)

we lost to a bad team, so we are now ahead of the bills for higher draft pick.

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Negatives;  our strengths no showed.  Powell and Forte had bad games, as did Wilkerson/Williams.  A lot of mistakes in the middle of the field by our safeties and Lbers.   Robbie Anderson and most of our skill position players were handled and created zero separation.

positives.  McCown had a decent game, as did our OL and Kearse.  The WC offense was run competently.  It's not going to win us many games, but at least it sets a foundation.

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7 hours ago, Smashmouth said:

8. Forte now has cement shoes borrowed from Stephen Ridley ... Negative

 

THIS. No idea why powell wasn't featured in the slightest way more. I just can never seem to comprehend a Bowles' decision...ever 

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8 hours ago, Smashmouth said:

Look man you know we are going to suck this year the least we can do is watch the young players develop rather then get bent out of shape over a rebuilding football team in the first year of an all out re-build

We aren't rebuilding, we have father time under center.  And his cousin Founding Father Forte jogging with the rock.  Rebuild's a$$!

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When the best players for the day were the trade throw-ins/salary dumps and waiver wire pick ups from other teams...I.e. Their 'trash', that's a big negative IMO.

But I'm not too worried yet...give Kearse, Tye and Ealy a few weeks in our 'systems' and some of our great 'coaching' and they'll be just as clueless as the rest of the team.

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14 hours ago, Smashmouth said:

1. First and foremost we lost ... Positive... Draft Pick QB you know the deal.

2. Josh Martin looks like he could be a football player ... Positive

3. Rich Gannon is a complete moron. Positive for Maye who he somehow expected to follow a TE across the LOS through traffic at the goal line and still make a play ... Hilarious. Almost as hilarious as Gannon Calling Powell a big bruising RB/ Hey Rich that was someone else's assignment not Mayes you buffoon

4. Adams looked to be coming on in the second half made some nice plays. Positive

5. Demario Davis Missed more assignments than the rookies. Still can't come close to covering a TE so now he just outright blows assignments/ Negative

6. O-Line cant run block they got hammered today... And they still cant pick up a safety blitz much better to peel off a lineman and at least hit the safety since he will get there much faster than the lineman you peel off.... Negative

7. Where in the **** was McGuire ?... Negative

8. Forte now has cement shoes borrowed from Stephen Ridley ... Negative

9. Along with Demario's debacle this team still has no answer for the TE its almost laughable... Negative

10. Looks like Bowles was calling the defense so why is Rogers still the DC ? Can't tell if this is neg or positive they both stink.

11. Still can't stop a 3rd and long. Why blitz a running elusive QB on 3rd and long and keep getting Burned ?... Negative

So more negatives than Positives but we expected that.... I'm really trying to concentrate on the young players who will be the future of this team and for the most part they played okay today.

Did Peake get cut ? I was wondering where he was at the goal line. If so did we cut him for that scrub Kerley ?

absolutely agree on Gannon.  cannot cover a 1 yard crossing pattern thru traffic.  he hates the Jets, but he has to cover them as he is low mn on the totem pole. David Harris, smart and slow. DD---dumb and fast.  Forte is shot.  Don't forget the 2 point call and the punt.

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5 hours ago, BroadwayBen said:

THIS. No idea why powell wasn't featured in the slightest way more. I just can never seem to comprehend a Bowles' decision...ever 

He is the Best Chance to Win Coach who does not know best.

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12 hours ago, RutgersJetFan said:

I'll bite.

Positives: Kearse looks like a nice throw-in and Edwards has clearly made some nice steps as a punter. Think he only had one dud.

Negatives: When you use this many resources on linebackers and safeties over a 3-year period and they can't completely shut down the Bills' offense, it's time to move on. This squad is atrocious and it is hard to believe that the team is this bad deliberately simply because even our high picks don't look remotely impressive.

Think Kearse will be okay. Once he knows the offense.  Do not get the Kerley thing.  Anderson tried to play tough yesterday.  they need to take shots, even if he does not get open deep.

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Just now, jack48 said:

Think Kearse will be okay. Once he knows the offense.  Do not get the Kerley thing.  Anderson tried to play tough yesterday.  they need to take shots, even if he does not get open deep.  We cannot appear to be an 8 yard max offense

 

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9 hours ago, Larz said:

jets fans are super spoiled in run defense.  The NFL average for scoring is 22 points per game.

Biggest negative for me was run blocking. It was just really bad

Biggest positive for me was Mortons play calling. He actually made an adjustment ! He saw the run blocking sucked, so he started calling passes !

Maybe he can be our HC when we draft a QB !

Cannot run block 8 or 9, though.  The other team does not fear our downfield game, either due to our receivers or to having Rip Van Winkle at QB.  Does he have an even slower relese than Fitz?  Also does not help that Forte has Wilmer-Flores-type speed.

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1 minute ago, jack48 said:

Cannot run block 8 or 9, though.  The other team does not fear our downfield game, either due to our receivers or to having Rip Van Winkle at QB.  Does he have an even slower relese than Fitz?  Also does not help that Forte has Wilmer-Flores-type speed.  Slow runner+slow developing plays=loss of yardage

 

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13 hours ago, joewilly12 said:

Agree but we really don't have any impact players that would effect us if they were injured. 

I'm thinking more about the guys we're counting on to be the foundation of the team ... our high draft picks etc.

San Fran had Reuben Foster carted off in their game, he'd looked good before that. That just sucks, whatever team you are.

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the best thing about this game is that bowles is still bowles, he still coaches out of fear and is clearly coaching for his job.  he starts mccown, and uses forte way too much who is clearly washed up.  he names hack the backup even though he didn't even earn the 3rd string job and petty is healthy, inviting needless questions about the backup qb.  bowles is still chasing his tail, he's playing games with petty, probably b/c of last year's locker room politics, and still hasn't figured out that down 2 scores with 4 minutes left with a defense that can't stop the run, that you go for it near midfield.

as the losses pile up, and as bowles continues to trot mccown out there and claim absurdedly that he gives them the best chance to win, he will have aided this much needed tank so well that he will deserve a much needed kudos even as he is ushered out of florham park right after the season.  even mccage will realize - if he even escapes the purge - that bowles cannot touch the next qb.

enjoy college football - we are the frontrunners in the darnold/rosen sweepstakes.  

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58 minutes ago, jack48 said:

absolutely agree on Gannon.  cannot cover a 1 yard crossin pattern thr traffic.  he hates the Jets, but he has to cover them as he is low mn on the otem pole. Dvid Harris, smart and slow. DD---dumb and fast.  Forte is shot.  Don't forget the 2 point call and the punt.

The biggest blunders from my vantage point.  First came way too early, the second showed he's "in" on the tank.  Betting he returns.  

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34 minutes ago, Augustiniak said:

the best thing about this game is that bowles is still bowles, he still coaches out of fear and is clearly coaching for his job.  

He doesn't seem to even be able to do this right. If you're coaching for your job you go down swinging. Instead Bowles is going to go down punting. :(

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 The punt down 2 scores with 4 min left was pure stupidity. I could understand if you had a top five defense and the other team could not run the ball worth a crap but thats the best running team in the NFL 2 years in a row and you give them the ball back ? I mean they gained close to 200 yards for christs sake. 

Bad roster or no bad roster you still have to make the correct calls as a head coach and Bowles seems incapable of that..... so NO the guy should not get a pass this year.

Also Bowles opted to keep Kacy Rogers, so how in the hell does Bowles take play calling duties away from him in the first game ??? I mean is anyone in the Jets organization questioning this guy and the dumb sh*t hes doing ? I mean its like hes keeping his friend on the payroll cause he knows hes getting dumped at seasons end.

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23 hours ago, RESNewYork said:

Lee played well today and was very physical. 

https://sports.yahoo.com/jets-fail-takeoff-takeaway-loss-134425119.html

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1: LB Inconsistencies:

The Jets backers didn’t have a fantastic day by any stretch. It was a scattered effort, having a really up and down day in the office as they were unable to cover the any of the Bills’ tight ends or get the running game going.

Darron Lee was replaced halfway through the second quarter as he finished with the lowest PFF grade for the defense with a mere 38.3. Not a good look for the former first round draft pick.

Also on the other end of the spectrum, Demario Davis flashed on the stat sheet, similiarly to what we had come to know during his former years in NY before, making 14 tackles on the day and having a half sack. Davis, however, found himself out of position on multiple plays throughout the day despite making headlines on the stat sheet. He let up many of the 10+ yard gains the Bills had on the day.

The coming week on the training field can hopefully rectify some of the mistakes in coverage from the guys in what is such a crucial position in today’s NFL landscape.

 

 

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6 hours ago, Smashmouth said:

 The punt down 2 scores with 4 min left was pure stupidity. I could understand if you had a top five defense and the other team could not run the ball worth a crap but thats the best running team in the NFL 2 years in a row and you give them the ball back ? I mean they gained close to 200 yards for christs sake. 

Bad roster or no bad roster you still have to make the correct calls as a head coach and Bowles seems incapable of that..... so NO the guy should not get a pass this year.

Also Bowles opted to keep Kacy Rogers, so how in the hell does Bowles take play calling duties away from him in the first game ??? I mean is anyone in the Jets organization questioning this guy and the dumb sh*t hes doing ? I mean its like hes keeping his friend on the payroll cause he knows hes getting dumped at seasons end.

No way he lasts the season if he continues doing what he's doing and the team plays like they did yesterday. 

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