JetsFanInDenver Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Did you just quote yourself to make a point? I wanted to avoid typing it all over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Then what are you arguing? If you agree that Braylon took less from the 49ers than the Jets offered how can you be pissed at the Jets FO? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 You don't want a rookie, either. You want nothing but your drunken Braylon doll. Everything else makes you cry incessantly. No, we didn't need Braylon specifically. I would have welcomed a 1st-3rd round rookie, or a guy like Vincent Jackson, James Jones, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 This isn't a response. This is you pretending that I misunderstood you when the reality is that either you misspoke or you finalloy realized that your outrage is based on nothing of substance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 No, we didn't need Braylon specifically. I would have welcomed a 1st-3rd round rookie, or a guy like Vincent Jackson, James Jones, etc. Vincent Jackson: Dude wants to get paid. If we weren't going to be able to afford Braylon what makes you think we could afford VJax? James Jones: He's a nice player but not exactly a game-changing dynamic presence. If Plax is healthy, then he can be that. Plus, Derrick Mason > James Jones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 I don't get replies like this. Obviously, there IS cause for concern, so why act all sarcastic. This is very bad news... it means Mason could be our #2 and a rookie without a training camp could be #3. Are you serious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Vincent Jackson: Dude wants to get paid. If we weren't going to be able to afford Braylon what makes you think we could afford VJax? James Jones: He's a nice player but not exactly a game-changing dynamic presence. If Plax is healthy, then he can be that. Plus, Derrick Mason > James Jones Doesn't Vincent Jackson also have nine DUIs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Doesn't Vincent Jackson also have nine DUIs? Yup. I'm not going to act like the Jets get choir boys. I think the main thing is that Braylon has a general reputation about him that makes lots of team not even consider him. He's a more productive Kerry Rhodes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 To be fair, we would probably be talking about Braylon's injury or small suspension. Thats ok Braylon earned a get out of jail free card with me the way he played last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 and Lee Evans is on the trading block-Buffalo just might be stupid enough to trade within the division Hes on the Ravens as of today. We need some height T.O or Moss need to be signed here and now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Yup. I'm not going to act like the Jets get choir boys. I think the main thing is that Braylon has a general reputation about him that makes lots of team not even consider him. He's a more productive Kerry Rhodes. I was the originator of the "Braylon as Kerry" reasoning behind his departure. You WILL credit me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
war ensemble Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Thats the point. On one hand you demand proof and counter it with a surmise that is purely hypothetical! You iznt gettin it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 I don't get replies like this. Obviously, there IS cause for concern, so why act all sarcastic. This is very bad news... it means Mason could be our #2 and a rookie without a training camp could be #3. People can have legitimate concerns without using everything Cimini writes as occasion for a confirmation bias jamboroo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 People can have legitimate concerns without using everything Cimini writes as occasion for a confirmation bias jamboroo. Cimini is a douche. I dont care if he is the house media mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 But its not like the league has never been wrong before! They were not wrong about his value as of right now. He signed for a million dollars. He was too much of a bitch to saty here for anything close to his worth. Where is the wromg here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 a big reason why Edwards refused to sign with us after saying all spring and summer that he WANTED to play for the Jets and was willing to give us a "hometown discount" (his words was ego. Up until the day before he split for San Francisco Rex was still saying "hey Braylon, drop your high money demands and come back, we want you". He said he thought he was better than Santonio Holmes and wanted to get at least the same amount of money we gave him or MORE. I read this from one of the beat reporters when it was still going on. Hey it's all a moot point now anyway-Braylon Edwards is a 49er and he's going to be trying to catch scrub Alex Smith's errant passes and Plaxico will be getting healthy and will most likely be going to the playoffs and scoring 10 TDs, so STOP WHINING, what's done is done and what's done and can't be undone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 I was the originator of the "Braylon as Kerry" reasoning behind his departure. You WILL credit me. Sorry. I don't know how to link sources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Hes on the Ravens as of today. We need some height T.O or Moss need to be signed here and now. if Plaxico IS hurt and will be missing games I'd be all for TO or Moss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 I was one of the bigger Braylon supporters, at least over Holmes. I'm still not too in love with Holmes but it's just clear as day that Braylon's issues are huge and nobody in the league is willing to roll the dice on him with any real money. It's all going to be on Sanchez anyway. Yesterday I watched Vick throwing pinpoint lasers to nobodies. Just carved the Ravens right up. I know it's preseason, but still. Agree with you on Braylon. I felt the same way, but there's clearly a lot more to this situation than simply performance on the field. As you said, Sanchez will make or break this offense this year (well, as much as it can be "made" with Schitty calling the playings) On a different note, did you really feel Vick looked that good? I missed most of the game, but on the few replays I saw from Vick's TD drive (not sure if that was his only drive or not), his passes looked like complete sh*t to me. Nobodies or not, every catch I saw was a horrible throw completed thanks to good play by the WR and crappy CB play. When you've got a WR burning a DB down the field and then having to come to a near stop for the ball, that's a garbage throw. Not to mention his TD throw of all of 5 yards was behind Celek and looked like Vick was trying to hit the CB in stride rather than him. I honestly don't think he comes anywhere close to the season he had last year as a passer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 if Plaxico IS hurt and will be missing games I'd be all for TO or Moss BITE YOUR TONGUE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 if Plaxico IS hurt and will be missing games I'd be all for TO or Moss I dont think at this point we have much of a choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Funny thing about all of this panic is that as much as I wanted Braylon back, even if Plaxico's health issues persist, I'm not all THAT overly concerned. Mason is still a legit #2 WR (if he was on the Jets last year, his numbers would've been 1st in catches, 2nd in yards and tied for 1st in TDs) and frankly, with the way Kerley has been tearing it up in camp, I would actually be kind of excited to see the kid get a legit shot to see the field a lot as the Jets primary slot receiver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Funny thing about all of this panic is that as much as I wanted Braylon back, even if Plaxico's health issues persist, I'm not all THAT overly concerned. Mason is still a legit #2 WR (if he was on the Jets last year, his numbers would've been 1st in catches, 2nd in yards and tied for 1st in TDs) and frankly, with the way Kerley has been tearing it up in camp, I would actually be kind of excited to see the kid get a legit shot to see the field a lot as the Jets primary slot receiver. Correct Mason is a #2. My main concern will be height issues. Neither Holmes or Mason is over 5' 10". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Not worried...but why wait til now for the MRI? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Funny thing about all of this panic is that as much as I wanted Braylon back, even if Plaxico's health issues persist, I'm not all THAT overly concerned. Mason is still a legit #2 WR (if he was on the Jets last year, his numbers would've been 1st in catches, 2nd in yards and tied for 1st in TDs) and frankly, with the way Kerley has been tearing it up in camp, I would actually be kind of excited to see the kid get a legit shot to see the field a lot as the Jets primary slot receiver. yea that's a good point BG-I mean every practice we hear good reports about this kid-maybe it's fate intervening here-maybe we have a star in the amking also-we have a better and deeper WR corps than we have had in a generation-Patrick Turner, Logan Payne, Scotty McKnight these guys have potential-I wouldn't mind seeing what we have there if Plax is MIA for a few weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Not worried...but why wait til now for the MRI? Agree bring in T.O or Moss and show Plax we arent messing around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Correct Mason is a #2. My main concern will be height issues. Neither Holmes or Mason is over 5' 10". That's certainly a legit point, and was one of the many reasons I was originally rooting for Braylon to return. Although both Holmes and Mason have been pretty productive red zone TD WRs for their size in their careers, but that is an area they'd probably want to address, be it through FA or if they think one of the big WRs they have in camp can contribute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 yea that's a good point BG-I mean every practice we hear good reports about this kid-maybe it's fate intervening here-maybe we have a star in the amking also-we have a better and deeper WR corps than we have had in a generation-Patrick Turner, Logan Payne, Scotty McKnight these guys have potential-I wouldn't mind seeing what we have there if Plax is MIA for a few weeks Im not willing to lose 3-4 games while we experiment at WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor99 Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Im not willing to lose 3-4 games while we experiment at WR. Link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 On a different note, did you really feel Vick looked that good? I missed most of the game, but on the few replays I saw from Vick's TD drive (not sure if that was his only drive or not), his passes looked like complete sh*t to me. Nobodies or not, every catch I saw was a horrible throw completed thanks to good play by the WR and crappy CB play. When you've got a WR burning a DB down the field and then having to come to a near stop for the ball, that's a garbage throw. Not to mention his TD throw of all of 5 yards was behind Celek and looked like Vick was trying to hit the CB in stride rather than him. I honestly don't think he comes anywhere close to the season he had last year as a passer. The main thing I took from that game is that the ETN play-by-play guy is one of the three or four most annoying human beings alive. He makes Hawk Harrelson look objective and dispassionate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Link? Its in your pants. Remember the "missing link" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor99 Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Its in your pants. Remember the "missing link" I'm not sure what BP has to do with this conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 That's certainly a legit point, and was one of the many reasons I was originally rooting for Braylon to return. Although both Holmes and Mason have been pretty productive red zone TD WRs for their size in their careers, but that is an area they'd probably want to address, be it through FA or if they think one of the big WRs they have in camp can contribute. It is if Keller wasnt 6'5 and Patrick Turner wasnt 6'6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 This isn't a response. This is you pretending that I misunderstood you when the reality is that either you misspoke or you finalloy realized that your outrage is based on nothing of substance. Let me know when you find what i said that led specifically to your conclusions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Correct Mason is a #2. My main concern will be height issues. Neither Holmes or Mason is over 5' 10". Logan Payne is 6'2" and he's making the team anyway as Westy's gunner, other WR's on the roster now are Cordarol Scales is 6'4", Courtney Smith is 6'5", Patrick Turner is also 6'5", and Michael Campbell is 6'2"-it's not like we don't have any size at the position. Turner would probably be the red zonew fade pattern receiver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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