afosomf Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Grow up dude, seriously i will start favoriting Captains tweets next season saying season is over, our QB stinks..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 http://www.cbssports...-on-open-market http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/14966135/top-100-dazzling-qb-duo-cant-get-separation Prisco is the same dumbass who, 10 months ago, said Nnamdi is the 4th best player in the NFL. Revis (#13) ranked as his 6th-best defensive player in the league. Jared Allen? Not a top-50 player but Dwight Freeney is the 9th best player in the NFL. Baltimore's Suggs and Ray Rice (#94!) are not top-50 players, but Asante Samuel is. Logan Mankins isn't a top-100 player but Santana Moss is. Great source of player ranking info you got there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boblivius Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 The Jets are in transition. They really have no choice but to use this year's draft heavily to build the team. They are now paying the price for the hard and fast building of the team. They had success and made play-off runs building in a manner, no other team in the NFL has, but when you develop a team this way the window closes faster. The Jets have relied on free agents, trading draft pick for veterans and being aggressive in the draft to build. Even Redskins owner Daniel Snyder, with all his dumb free agent moves, have drafted 39 players over the last 5 years, only 23 for the Jets. Unfortunately the Jets building strategy has strained cap resources, the team lacks replacements for older or underperforming players and lacks depth. Tanny and co will have to draft well this year because they will need to rely on these young players a lot. These young players will be asked to step in and contribute right away and hopefully they can. Excellent point.The transition began with Rex and is continuing. We are going to have a few more picks this year via compensation.The Draft should be the emhasis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Guys like Connor, both McKnights, Powell, Ducasse were total wastes of picks. When you have consecutive drafts of 3 and 4 total picks, that cant happen. Drafting a Matt Slauson late is what the Giants do every year...they find guys in those later rounds that contribute...we draft fullbacks. You're overstating tremendously. They draft well in the first 3 rounds. After that I don't know that their success rate is better than anyone else's. Are you just guessing or have you actually looked at their drafts? The last time they drafted a really good player after round 3 was in 2007 when they got Boss (who's not even with them anymore) in the 5th and Bradshaw in the 7th (damn solid picks). You complain about a starting FB in round 5? Well they drafted a friggin' long snapper in round 4. I give them a hard time for some picks also, but at least be fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted February 10, 2012 Author Share Posted February 10, 2012 Grow up dude, seriously Is that a tear welling up in your eye? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted February 10, 2012 Author Share Posted February 10, 2012 i will start favoriting Captains tweets next season saying season is over, our QB stinks..... That's if you make it to next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted February 10, 2012 Author Share Posted February 10, 2012 http://www.cbssports...-get-separation Prisco is the same dumbass who, 10 months ago, said Nnamdi is the 4th best player in the NFL. Revis (#13) ranked as his 6th-best defensive player in the league. Great source of player ranking info you got there. The man makes a pretty damn nice living for his opinion. It's a list of free agents, not rocket science You? Probably living in moms basement, typing your opinion on JN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 The man makes a pretty damn nice living for his opinion. It's a list of free agents, not rocket science You? Probably living in moms basement, typing your opinion on JN Rich Kotite also once made a nice living for his opinion. And my mom lets me & my wife stay in my old bedroom. Show's what you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 You? Probably living in moms basement, typing your opinion on JN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUH3JQjcweM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Was just having this conversation with my buddy who's a Giants fan...look at their entire roster, the only name they have that wasnt drafted was Antrell Rolle, who's coincidentally the biggest mouth/malcontent on the team....and then look at the Jets roster. Its full of guys on their second contract who were drafted elsewhere. The philsophy makes no sense. Holy sh*t dude, you have to be kidding with this. You are completely incapable of keeping any single conversation on this board from turning into a discussion of your ridiculously obsessive complex with the Giants. Enough already, they're a mediocre team who only has blind luck to thank for that fact that they didn't miss the playoffs for a third consecutive season and then had a nice run to end the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 You're overstating tremendously. They draft well in the first 3 rounds. After that I don't know that their success rate is better than anyone else's. Are you just guessing or have you actually looked at their drafts? The last time they drafted a really good player after round 3 was in 2007 when they got Boss (who's not even with them anymore) in the 5th and Bradshaw in the 7th (damn solid picks). You complain about a starting FB in round 5? Well they drafted a friggin' long snapper in round 4. I give them a hard time for some picks also, but at least be fair. I think you're asking the wrong person to have a reasonable view of this topic, Matt has become the single biggest Giants homer I've ever seen. Whatever they do is absolute brilliance, and what the Jets do complete incompetent failure, even when both teams do the same exact thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Enough already, they're a mediocre team who only has blind luck to thank for that fact that they didn't miss the playoffs for a third consecutive season and then had a nice run to end the season. Lol Now you've gone too far the other way. Green Bay, San Francisco, New England and Atlanta beg to differ about the Giants supposed mediocrity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted February 10, 2012 Author Share Posted February 10, 2012 Lol Now you've gone too far the other way. Green Bay, San Francisco, New England and Atlanta beg to differ about the Giants supposed mediocrity. Atta boy!! Stick up for your team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Holy sh*t dude, you have to be kidding with this. You are completely incapable of keeping any single conversation on this board from turning into a discussion of your ridiculously obsessive complex with the Giants. Chronic inferiority complex. To the point where dude cried to high hell when Chan called him a fag one time. Highly entertaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Lol Now you've gone too far the other way. Green Bay, San Francisco, New England and Atlanta beg to differ about the Giants supposed mediocrity. Well I did admit they had a nice run at the end of the year. But yes, I was intentionally going to the opposite extreme, as having to hear about Matt's idolization of the unmatched superiority of the almighty Giants in nearly every thread on this board has gotten ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Atta boy!! Stick up for your team. SRSLY. Matt must not be aware that the Jets have Josh Mauga on their roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Well I did admit they had a nice run at the end of the year. But yes, I was intentionally going to the opposite extreme, as having to hear about Matt's idolization of the unmatched superiority of the almighty Giants in nearly every thread on this board has gotten ridiculous. Relax. We've already done a comparison of rosters. There's no idolization other than the way they evaluate talent. 2 Super Bowls in 4 years. If you prefer, I can use the Steelers as an example as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Relax. We've already done a comparison of rosters. There's no idolization other than the way they evaluate talent. 2 Super Bowls in 4 years. If you prefer, I can use the Steelers as an example as well. Here's a cool exercise: If you could have the Giants roster or the Jets roster, which would you take? Hell, most people might still take the Giants roster even if you took Eli off of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Here's a cool exercise: If you could have the Giants roster or the Jets roster, which would you take? Hell, most people might still take the Giants roster even if you took Eli off of it. As EY put it...Revis, Mangold and the Giants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Here's a cool exercise: If you could have the Giants roster or the Jets roster, which would you take? Hell, most people might still take the Giants roster even if you took Eli off of it. It is not possible to spend cap space better than $9M for Santonio Holmes, $12M for David Harris, $14M for Sanchez, $7M for Pace, $6M for Scott, and $8M for Cromartie (when we're already getting hit for $12M for Revis). Approximately 50% of the entire 2012 salary cap space for our top 51 players is going to Holmes, Harris, Sanchez, Pace, Scott, Cromartie. This type of mis-allocation of a fixed, hard salary cap has to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyB Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Was just having this conversation with my buddy who's a Giants fan...look at their entire roster, the only name they have that wasnt drafted was Antrell Rolle, who's coincidentally the biggest mouth/malcontent on the team....and then look at the Jets roster. Its full of guys on their second contract who were drafted elsewhere. The philsophy makes no sense. Michael Boley, LB, was not a Giant draft pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 It is not possible to spend cap space better than $9M for Santonio Holmes, $12M for David Harris, $14M for Sanchez, $7M for Pace, $6M for Scott, and $8M for Cromartie (when we're already getting hit for $12M for Revis). Approximately 50% of the entire 2012 salary cap space for our top 51 players is going to Holmes, Harris, Sanchez, Pace, Scott, Cromartie. This type of mis-allocation of a fixed, hard salary cap has to change. As much as I've instinctively distrusted Tannenbaum from the start, your posts actually make me distrust him more. Talented, talented man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 As much as I've instinctively distrusted Tannenbaum from the start, your posts actually make me distrust him more. Talented, talented man. I try to stay away from the Tannenbaum thing, but that really does suck. I never liked the idea of paying two ILBs big money too...just to pile on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraightCash Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Was just having this conversation with my buddy who's a Giants fan...look at their entire roster, the only name they have that wasnt drafted was Antrell Rolle, who's coincidentally the biggest mouth/malcontent on the team....and then look at the Jets roster. Its full of guys on their second contract who were drafted elsewhere. The philsophy makes no sense. Eli Manning was not drafted by the Giants. Just sayin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 McKenzie was drafted by the Jets, not the Giants... now we know the Giants have like 10 FA players if not more so I don't know what the heck that guy was going on about. He's obviously obsessed with the Giants for some reason, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 I try to stay away from the Tannenbaum thing, but that really does suck. I never liked the idea of paying two slow ILBs - neither of whom can cover a TE for 1 full second - big money too...just to pile on. (fixed) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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