flgreen Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Schwartz: Mark It Down, Sanchez Will Stay Jets’ Starting QB May 25, 2012 10:10 AM (credit: Jeff Zelevansky/Getty Images) By Peter Schwartz If there’s one thing about the Jets that we’ve come to understand over the years, it’s that they don’t always give you the complete truth. Sometimes, they skirt around an issue. They’ve been known to backtrack on what they’ve said and later change their position. One might even speculate that the Jets are habitual liars! But let me tell you that there’s one thing they’re not lying about: Mark Sanchez is the Jets’ starting quarterback. He will be the starter through the offseason, through training camp and in the season opener against the Bills on September 9 at MetLife Stadium. And write this down… In my opinion, barring an injury, Sanchez will be the Jets’ starting quarterback throughout the 2012 season. It’s just that Tim Tebow is not nearly as good a quarterback as Sanchez. And he never will be. Tebow is a great athlete and if he’s used correctly he’ll be a terrific weapon for the Jets. However, this notion that he will unseat Sanchez by Week 6 or 7 is utter nonsense. After watching Thursday’s OTA session at the Atlantic Health Jets Training Center, nothing changed that would leave me to believe Tebow is going to become this great NFL signal caller. He was very inconsistent, something that he’s been very consistent at doing. During 7-on-7 drills, he was picked off by Bart Scott and Yeremiah Bell. “It is definitely frustrating,” said Tebow. “But it is 7-on-7. Both of those plays, (it) was the first time I ran them. So I will learn from it and that is it. It won’t bother me again. When you make a bad play, just put it behind you and move on. I feel like I did. I went out there the next team period and felt like I did OK.” Tebow is NOT an NFL starting quarterback. He may not be a good backup either. But to be fair, he’s a great athlete and his abilities will help the Jets win games. But if you’re looking for someone to be a threat to Sanchez, it’s not going to be Tebow. I’d have more confidence in the team’s seventh-round pick from 2011, Greg McElroy, who is back after missing all of last season with an injured thumb. If you’re a Jets fan, don’t be afraid to go out and buy a Sanchez jersey. He’s not going anywhere. In fact, I thought — and remember these were just OTAs — that he was pretty sharp on Thursday, especially on that 75-yard touchdown pass to second-round pick Stephen Hill. “I felt good,” said Sanchez. “Everybody’s demeanor today was competitive. It was good to see that vibe and talking to guys, guys were pushing and competing to the very last second with everything they have and then they pull up at the last second to protect the other guy on the other side of the ball. So that’s good. I think we have great competition going on offense and defense, it’s good for us.” It’s also okay to buy a Tim Tebow jersey. You’ll help make it the highest selling jersey ever for a backup quarterback/wildcat specialist/special teamer. GET WELL SOON WESTY! Best wishes go out to Jets special teams coach Mike Westhoff, who is recovering from surgery on his leg. During a recent trip to Indiana to visit his son, the graph in Westhoff’s left leg broke and had to be replaced. Westhoff has been through a lot. While he was coaching with the Dolphins, he was diagnosed with bone cancer back in 1988. He is expected to return before the start of training camp. Until his return, assistant Ben Kotwica will run the special teams. OTA ODDS AND ENDS At Thursday’s OTA session, I was a little surprised how crisp the play was on both sides of the ball. Sure, there were plenty of mistakes, but for the first week of OTAs, a new offensive system being implemented, and a bunch of new players, I was impressed with what I saw. So was Jets head coach Rex Ryan. “The tempo is the first thing that jumps out at me,” said Ryan. “Here you put in a brand new system on offense, sometimes there are growing pains, just like there was when we put a brand new system in on defense, and you kind of slow things down. We’re not working at that pace. We’re working at a fast pace. I just love the temperament our guys are playing with. They’re flying around, enjoying it, and going against each other. You see a lot of smiles on faces, and guys are excited. Both sides of the ball are excited.” Speaking of that new offense, it’s being run by new offensive coordinator Tony Sparano. The former Dolphins head coach is a passionate and loud presence on the practice field. He was all business during Thursday’s OTA session as he gave Tebow the business after both interceptions. He also took his offense to task early in the session when they had some issues getting things going. “Break the god darn huddle,” said Sparano. “It’s not that hard.” It’s quite the change from former offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer, so it takes a little getting used to. “He doesn’t smile too often,” said Sanchez. “If you catch one, you better save it. They’re few and far between. Sometimes it’s not a smile, it’s a smirk. You never know. But he’s tough on us, he’s fair, he’s an old school guy and he wants things done right and that’s exactly what we need. But he’s been great. He puts a lot of pressure on the coaches, he puts a lot of pressure on his players to do it right. That’s what we need. We need that extra emphasis on the little things.” There was a special guest at Jets OTAs on Wednesday and Thursday. Ohio State head football coach Urban Meyer was on hand where he had the chance to take a look and visit with Tim Tebow, his former quarterback at the University of Florida. The Jets’ new backup signal caller was happy to see his former mentor. “It was fun having him here,” said Tebow. “(I went) to dinner with him last night and (he was) at both practices to watch me and to also encourage me and hangout. To just be able to hang with someone that I am very close with – a father figure. And also coach Mickey (Marotti), my strength coach at Florida, is here as well. That was fun to see him. I know they had a good time talking to the Jets coaching staff.” There was a lot going on in Florham Park this week and it will continue next week with round two of OTAs. TEBOWING… IT’S IN THE GAME! When the Madden 13 game comes out this year, it will certainly be realistic. EA Sports has always done a great job of making sports games true to life, but this year they are showing a special attention to detail. If you are playing a game as the Jets and Tim Tebow scores a touchdown, guess what happens? That’s right, No. 15 will “Tebow”! I guess my son will have me running out to the video game store at midnight on whatever day the game comes out! DO YOU HAVE A JET-SIZED APPETITE? The annual Jets’ annual “Taste of the NFL” will take place on Thursday May 31st, 2012 at Cipriani in Manhattan. It’s an event that helps raise money to tackle hunger. (credit: NFL) The hosts of the event will be Darrelle Revis and Nick Mangold. You will be able to meet current players, taste food from New York and New Jersey’s finest restaurants, sip wine, and take part in an auction for once-in-a-lifetime experiences. For more information, call 973-549-4654 or email taste@newyorkjets.com. That’s all for now everyone. Don’t forget to follow me on Twitter @pschwartzwfan. 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CTM Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 duh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 This guy is a moron. Doesnt he know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 LOOK AT THE ACTUAL 'PASSING' RESULTS: PM - 26 TD's to 28 Ints .9 to 1 Ratio - Peyton's first 16 Starts (Peyton's HoF Career TD/Int Ratio is 2 to 1) MS - 12 TD's to 20 Ints for a .6 to 1 Ratio - Mark's first 16 Starts TT >>> 17 TD's to 9 Ints for a 1.9 to 1 Ratio - Tim's first 16 Starts + 12 backup plays. (plus 12 rushing TD's to 6 LPF's) Tebow's Total Offense = 29 TD'/s to 15 Turnovers for a 1.93 to 1 Ratio Who is really the most 'accurate' QB. Who can read the defensive secondary? (TD/Int Ratio) The media-morons and the idiot-commentators have led most of the public astray with their ignorant parroting of each others baseless nonsense. Do fans really believe that Tim won't improve with time, given the right coaches and teammates? If you want to believe that, then don't listen to what his current coaches and teammates are saying.... PS Want to compare Tebow's to Manning's 1'st Playoff games? 1999 (Peyton's 2nd year in the league and his 33rd 'every advantage' start) Passing - 19 of 42, 45.2% for 227 yds, 5.4 yds/att, 0 TD's, 0 Ints, PER 62.3 Rushing - 2 for 22 yds, 11 ypc, 1 TD. Total Offense - 44 plays for 249 yds, 5.6 yds/play, 1 TD with a loss. 2011 (Tebow's 2nd year in the league but only his 15th start against the Steelers #1 Defense) Passing - 10 of 21, 47.6% for 316 yds, 15.0 yds/att, 2 TD's, 0 Ints, PER 125.6 Rushing - 10 for 50 yds, 5.0 ypc 1 TD. Total Offense - 31 plays for 366 yds, 11.3 yds/play, 3 TD's for a Win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Some rookie comparisons to consider,,,, Not Praise at all, just the straight up STATS/FACTS: Passing - QB John Elway - 123 of 259, 47.8% for 1,663 yds, 6.4 ypa, 7 TD's, 14 Ints, PER 54.9 Elway Rushing - 28 for 146 yds, 5.2 ypc, 1 TD. FB Mike 'A-Train' Alstott - 96 for 377 yds, 3.9 ypc, 3 TD's Combined Rushing - 124 for 423 yds, 3.4 ypc, 4 TD's. ================== Passing - QB Troy Aikman - 155 of 293, 52.9% for 1,749 yds, 6.0 ypa, 9 TD's, 18 Ints, PER 55.7 Aikman Rushing - 38 for 302, 7.9 ypc, 0 TD's RB Emmitt Smith - 241 for 937 yds, 3.9 ypc, 11 TD's. Combined Rushing - 379 for 1,239 yds, 4.4 ypc, 11 TD's. ================== Passing - QB Mark Sanchez - 196 of 364, 53.8% for 2,444 yds, 6.7 ypa, 12 TD's to 20 Ints, PER 63.0 Sanchez Rushing - 30 for 105 yds, 3.5 ypa, 3 TD's. RB Tony Dorset - 208 for 1,007 yds, 4.8 ypc 12 TD's. Combined Rushing - 238 for 1,112 yds, 4.7 ypc, 15 TD's. ================== Tebow's 2010/11 Split 'cold off the bench' Seasons with a lockout on 16 Starts + 12 backup plays: Passing - QB Tim Tebow - 167 of 353, 47.3% for 2,383 yds, 6.8 ypa, 17 TD's, 9 Ints, PER 75.1 Tebow all by himself - Rushing - 165 for 887 yds, 5.4 ypc, 12 TD's. ============== Do the comparisons with the above for yourselves: QB PER & TD/Int Ratios (shows the throwing accuracy and reading defenses much better than a pass completion % ever will) QB + RB's YPC and TD's. Keeping in mind that Tim was also 'taking a beating running the ball' while he was also doing the passing! I just wonder how he'd do with his passing if he'd had a great OL and Pro Bowl receivers if he wasn't having to also run the ball? Now, don't just drivel on with unfounded 'opinions' about how bad Tim is as a QB or as just a passer, back it up with some actual facts/stats for a change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Tebow - Florida HS Record setting State champion, now elected to the FLA HS All Century Team. Set the Florida HS Career Passing TD's Record with 99 TD's, among his many other records. Tebow - University of Florida - 2X SEC Champion and 2X BCS-NC, Academic Heisman Campbell Trophy, Heisman Trophy and the ONLY 3X Heisman Finalist in NCAA History. Had a 5.5 to 1 TD/Int Ratio (28 UF Records, 14 SEC Records, 5 NCAA Records) Tebow - NFL - Takes a 4-14 team and goes 9-7 with them in two seasons split by a lock, coming in as a backup cold off the bench both times. Tebow 2011 - Takes a 1-4 team and goes 7-4 + 1-1 = 8-5 with them. Has a current 2 to 1 TD/T-O Ratio (29 TD's to 15 Turnovers) while averaging 6.3 yds/play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 That wasnt even in question Mr. Schwartz. You got to give Sanchez an opportunity in the new playbook as well as dealing with a playcaller who can confuse a defense and not have defenses call out the offensive play like I usually do from my couch. That in itself should cut down on the pick 6's. Sanchez is nowhere near losing his spot to Tebow or any other back up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Tebow 16 Cold off the bench Starts + 12 backup plays: Passing - 17 TD's to 9 Int's, 1.9 to 1 Ratio, 2,383 yds, PER 75.1 Rushing - 12 TD's to 6 LPF's with 887 yds. Total = 29 TD's to 15 Turnovers, 1.93 to 1 Ratio with 3,270 yds. ============= Sanchez 3rd year starter, 2011 Core Stats: Passing - 26 TD's, 18 Ints, 1.4 to 1 Ratio, 3,474 yds, PER 78.2 Rushing - 6 TD's, 3 LPF's, 103 yds. Total = 32 TD's to 21 Turnovers, 1.52 to 1 Ratio with 3,577 yds. ============== Total Difference: Sanchez: +3.1 PER, +307 total yds, +3 TD's, and PLUS 6 On Turnovers. Sanchez Considerations: Minus a top quality running game, minus a top quality OL. Tebow Considerations: Fox/El' Dim-Way 'brain-trust' (oxy-morons). Minus his Top 2 WR's from 2010, Minus his 1st Rnd starting and best receiving RB, Minus a TE that anyone but his family or teammates could name, with an OL Sack Machine, just ask 8th year Vet QB Kyle (4-14) Orton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Tebow - Florida HS Record setting State champion, now elected to the FLA HS All Century Team. Set the Florida HS Career Passing TD's Record with 99 TD's, among his many other records. Tebow - University of Florida - 2X SEC Champion and 2X BCS-NC, Academic Heisman Campbell Trophy, Heisman Trophy and the ONLY 3X Heisman Finalist in NCAA History. Had a 5.5 to 1 TD/Int Ratio (28 UF Records, 14 SEC Records, 5 NCAA Records) Tebow - NFL - Takes a 4-14 team and goes 9-7 with them in two seasons split by a lock, coming in as a backup cold off the bench both times. Tebow 2011 - Takes a 1-4 team and goes 7-4 + 1-1 = 8-5 with them. Has a current 2 to 1 TD/T-O Ratio (29 TD's to 15 Turnovers) while averaging 6.3 yds/play. Tebow 16 Cold off the bench Starts + 12 backup plays: Passing - 17 TD's to 9 Int's, 1.9 to 1 Ratio, 2,383 yds, PER 75.1 Rushing - 12 TD's to 6 LPF's with 887 yds. Total = 29 TD's to 15 Turnovers, 1.93 to 1 Ratio with 3,270 yds. ============= Sanchez 3rd year starter, 2011 Core Stats: Passing - 26 TD's, 18 Ints, 1.4 to 1 Ratio, 3,474 yds, PER 78.2 Rushing - 6 TD's, 3 LPF's, 103 yds. Total = 32 TD's to 21 Turnovers, 1.52 to 1 Ratio with 3,577 yds. ============== Total Difference: Sanchez: +3.1 PER, +307 total yds, +3 TD's, and PLUS 6 On Turnovers. Sanchez Considerations: Minus a top quality running game, minus a top quality OL. Tebow Considerations: Fox/El' Dim-Way 'brain-trust' (oxy-morons). Minus his Top 2 WR's from 2010, Minus his 1st Rnd starting and best receiving RB, Minus a TE that anyone but his family or teammates could name, with an OL Sack Machine, just ask 8th year Vet QB Kyle (4-14) Orton. Too short, didn't read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Tebow = Mascot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetscode1 Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 With Tebow on the team the Jets will finally reach our destiny...Super Bowl! Can you dig it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Mike Westhoff is like the football coach version of Jack Palance. How many surgeries is that now? Dude's still going to be hobbling around calling 20 year olds a bunch of pussies. Love it. My grandpa can barely get up stairs at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Mike Westhoff is like the football coach version of Jack Palance. How many surgeries is that now? Dude's still going to be hobbling around calling 20 year olds a bunch of pussies. Love it. My grandpa can barely get up stairs at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 I wish there was a way you could bet on who the starting QB of the Jets will be week 1. I'd put the rent payment on Sanchez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted May 25, 2012 Author Share Posted May 25, 2012 I wish there was a way you could bet on who the starting QB of the Jets will be week 1. I'd put the rent payment on Sanchez. I would to. How about week 17? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 I would to. How about week 17? JMO the only way Tebow will be the starter is if Sanchez is injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanBe_Tweetin Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 I would to. How about week 17? Tebow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 mark it down : schwartz will regret writing this after mark's 1st INT, will rewrite the article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 Clearly the Schwartz is with Sanchez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 Some rookie comparisons to consider,,,, Not Praise at all, just the straight up STATS/FACTS: Passing - QB John Elway - 123 of 259, 47.8% for 1,663 yds, 6.4 ypa, 7 TD's, 14 Ints, PER 54.9 Elway Rushing - 28 for 146 yds, 5.2 ypc, 1 TD. FB Mike 'A-Train' Alstott - 96 for 377 yds, 3.9 ypc, 3 TD's Combined Rushing - 124 for 423 yds, 3.4 ypc, 4 TD's. ================== Passing - QB Troy Aikman - 155 of 293, 52.9% for 1,749 yds, 6.0 ypa, 9 TD's, 18 Ints, PER 55.7 Aikman Rushing - 38 for 302, 7.9 ypc, 0 TD's RB Emmitt Smith - 241 for 937 yds, 3.9 ypc, 11 TD's. Combined Rushing - 379 for 1,239 yds, 4.4 ypc, 11 TD's. ================== Passing - QB Mark Sanchez - 196 of 364, 53.8% for 2,444 yds, 6.7 ypa, 12 TD's to 20 Ints, PER 63.0 Sanchez Rushing - 30 for 105 yds, 3.5 ypa, 3 TD's. RB Tony Dorset - 208 for 1,007 yds, 4.8 ypc 12 TD's. Combined Rushing - 238 for 1,112 yds, 4.7 ypc, 15 TD's. ================== Tebow's 2010/11 Split 'cold off the bench' Seasons with a lockout on 16 Starts + 12 backup plays: Passing - QB Tim Tebow - 167 of 353, 47.3% for 2,383 yds, 6.8 ypa, 17 TD's, 9 Ints, PER 75.1 Tebow all by himself - Rushing - 165 for 887 yds, 5.4 ypc, 12 TD's. ============== Do the comparisons with the above for yourselves: QB PER & TD/Int Ratios (shows the throwing accuracy and reading defenses much better than a pass completion % ever will) QB + RB's YPC and TD's. Keeping in mind that Tim was also 'taking a beating running the ball' while he was also doing the passing! I just wonder how he'd do with his passing if he'd had a great OL and Pro Bowl receivers if he wasn't having to also run the ball? Now, don't just drivel on with unfounded 'opinions' about how bad Tim is as a QB or as just a passer, back it up with some actual facts/stats for a change. Sanchez >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tebow /realtalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet-T's Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 At least the facts/stats may have finally gotten through,,,, and thanks for the too. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now what the average football genius makes of the facts/stats is a whole nother thang.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 Well if Coach Schwartz said so it's gotta be true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny utah Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 Didn't they say all this stuff about Kyle Orton in Denver last season ? And looked at what happened there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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