SenorGato Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Easily my favorite aspect of watching tonight's game, I didn't finish, was watching just how well Kenrick Ellis played tonight. I'd have to rewatch to be specific, but he looks like he'll be pushing Pouha out sooner rather than later. I can't say enough about Coples. He's only step one in building an elite pass rush by collecting actual pass rushers (or was that Maybin?) too. He's the do-it-all Justin Tuck (except naturally bigger and more athletic) to Maybin's Osi and Sanchez's Manning. He's killed in all the preseason games, including the one I watched half of tonight. I've always wanted a great DL...the potential of the trio that started to IMG brings tears to my eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackDynamite Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Excellent game for both (and LeRon Landry)! The Jets will run 4-3 and rotate six D-linemen for maximum freshness, if you will, and Coples is showing why he is a steal at the 16th pick overall. Coples is clearly better than marginal talents like the Patriots Chandler Jones, who has done little this preseason.... BD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Sanchez's Manning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted August 27, 2012 Author Share Posted August 27, 2012 Teeeheeeeee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Our whole defense looks redic. I didnt realize how big ellis is until tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gangreenman Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Agreed. Reminds me of the Pats great 3 man front back 5 years ago or so.... Seymour, Wilfork, and Warren. With Green coming off the bench. I see Coples as a Seymour, Ellis as a Wilfork, and Wilkerson to Ellis. Even more, DeVito as an Ellis works well too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackDynamite Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 And the Patriots are having major issues protect Tom Lady..... BD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 I said in another thread that I didn't notice Coples. The way everyone's talking, I must have missed several good plays. Ellis on the other hand? WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAT he was playing out of his mind! Where did this beast come from? What was his stat line - 1 sack, 1 FF (on a different play), 1 pass deflected, 3 TFL? Something like that. Damn. Mike T might have hit on this guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackDynamite Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 "I said in another thread that I didn't notice Coples. The way everyone's talking, I must have missed several good plays." Sorry you missed the first quarter. It happens..... BD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 This year's DL is one of the strongest and deepest units I can have ever recall the Jets having anywhere on the team. Between Coples, Wilkerson, Pouha, Ellis, DeVito, Dixon and if this preseason is any indication, even Richardson, that is one hell of a unit. You're talking about having some backups who could easily be starters on other teams. I've been pumped about this DL all offseason long and what we've seen so far only verifies it all, if not making me feel even better about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gangreenman Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 And the Patriots are having major issues protect Tom Lady..... BD Yeah, their D sucks now too. But back then, that DL was just overpowering. I really think ours can become that in a year or two. Excited about the future of that unit. Real excited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackDynamite Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 I hope this Jay Richardson makes the squad. I'd bail on Ricky Sapp. He seems to be a force when he's in there. BD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetSouth1 Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 This year's DL is one of the strongest and deepest units I can have ever recall the Jets having anywhere on the team. Between Coples, Wilkerson, Pouha, Ellis, DeVito, Dixon and if this preseason is any indication, even Richardson, that is one hell of a unit. You're talking about having some backups who could easily be starters on other teams. I've been pumped about this DL all offseason long and what we've seen so far only verifies it all, if not making me feel even better about it. I can't see why? We didn't use any high draft picks or pay big money to free agents for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gangreenman Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 I can't see why? We didn't use any high draft picks or pay big money to free agents for it. Big money? Free Agents? Who am I missing?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 "I said in another thread that I didn't notice Coples. The way everyone's talking, I must have missed several good plays." Sorry you missed the first quarter. It happens..... BD My fiancee was in the room with me, trying to get me "involved" with the wedding planning. I like her just fine but if she keeps distracting me from the things that really matter then this engagement may not last long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackDynamite Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 "I like her just fine but if she keeps distracting me from the things that really matter then this engagement may not last long." I HEARD THAT!! She needs to get her priorities straight, or else! LOL! BD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kay_gee Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Four defensive players I really noticed tonight: Ellis, Coples, Landry, and Cromartie. The defense looks really good. They even got to Newton, who's so good running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kay_gee Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 This game made me really glad Ellis didn't go to prison and/or get deported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted August 27, 2012 Author Share Posted August 27, 2012 Not Seymour/Wilfork/Warren...more like a mix between that line and the Ravens with Pryce. Wilkerson - Seymour Ellis - Ngata-lite Coples - Pryce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Did Gato just Gato our young defensive linemen? Crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Agreed. Reminds me of the Pats great 3 man front back 5 years ago or so.... Seymour, Wilfork, and Warren. With Green coming off the bench. I see Coples as a Seymour, Ellis as a Wilfork, and Wilkerson to Ellis. Even more, DeVito as an Ellis works well too. They looked more like Jets players to me. Compare better to something between what the Giants have assembled and what the Packers from a couple years ago had when Cullen Jenkins was there. They look awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetscode1 Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 The D-line looks special. Ellis especially last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 This year's DL is one of the strongest and deepest units I can have ever recall the Jets having anywhere on the team. Between Coples, Wilkerson, Pouha, Ellis, DeVito, Dixon and if this preseason is any indication, even Richardson, that is one hell of a unit. You're talking about having some backups who could easily be starters on other teams. I've been pumped about this DL all offseason long and what we've seen so far only verifies it all, if not making me feel even better about it. There's gotta be some genuine trade-bait in there. Jets need for a RT might've diminished a little bit last night, but the TE need increased. Also, hate to see a player lose his starting job to an injury, but I can't imagine them not starting Ellis. The man is an absolute beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 There's gotta be some genuine trade-bait in there. Jets need for a RT might've diminished a little bit last night, but the TE need increased. Also, hate to see a player lose his starting job to an injury, but I can't imagine them not starting Ellis. The man is an absolute beast. If, as Jason suspects, they're forced to make a move with Harris' salary, I wonder if they'll move to a base 4-3, with Davis in the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Thanks JiF! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 If, as Jason suspects, they're forced to make a move with Harris' salary, I wonder if they'll move to a base 4-3, with Davis in the middle. With the Giants success, the 4-3 seems to be coming back, and the Jets are becoming better equipped to run it. They need all of Davis, Maybin, and Sapp to start stepping up for the -3 part of the equation. The old LBs are just too big and slow for the package. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetscode1 Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 There's gotta be some genuine trade-bait in there. Jets need for a RT might've diminished a little bit last night, but the TE need increased. Also, hate to see a player lose his starting job to an injury, but I can't imagine them not starting Ellis. The man is an absolute beast. Had similar thoughts about trading a DL for help at RT or another skill position player...maybe we get lucky with the final cuts...but we are in serious trouble if Keller has to sit for any length of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetscode1 Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 With the Giants success, the 4-3 seems to be coming back, and the Jets are becoming better equipped to run it. They need all of Davis, Maybin, and Sapp to start stepping up for the -3 part of the equation. The old LBs are just too big and slow for the package. I've yet to see anything from Sapp that justifies a roster position...know he's been injured...but other than some potential athletic talent what exactly can we expect from him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 I've yet to see anything from Sapp that justifies a roster position...know he's been injured...but other than some potential athletic talent what exactly can we expect from him? I know, but that doesn't change the fact that the Jets need some quicker LBs to run the 4-3. Maybe Davis can work the strong side of Harris? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetscode1 Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 I know, but that doesn't change the fact that the Jets need some quicker LBs to run the 4-3. Maybe Davis can work the strong side of Harris? I'd like to see more of Davis as well...hopefully he earns more playing time. Still need more youth and athleticism. At least in that regard, I like the Rex can spot talent on the defensive side of the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranick10 Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 The defense will be great. That doesn't help us score any points though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranick10 Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 And our coach disagrees. But coach Rex Ryan wasn't gushing about the Jets' first-round draft pick. "I wasn’t as happy this game as I was previously," Ryan said. "I thought he kind of got winded a bit. He kind of had a 'woe is me' when we took out the starters. Hey look, you are still a rookie, you’ve got to play the whole game and then some." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 The defense will be great. That doesn't help us score any points though. Actually it does. Defense being great = more possessions = odds of scoring increases. There is no push, without pull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Actually it does. Defense being great = more possessions = odds of scoring increases. There is no push, without pull. On a team with any sort off offense yes., On a team that is breaking pre-season records for NOT scoring a single touchdown? Little bit scary. Our D will be worth watching. Our offense will require medication to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 And our coach disagrees. Meh. The concern about Coples is potential motor problems, and the Jets coaches are taking that one head on. I'm happy with the way Coples is performing, and I'm happy with the way the coaches are handling him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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