jetsjetsjetss Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 But what i dont get, Tom...is why wasn't half the wide receiving corps benched? Why hasnt he ever pulled sanchez in the past and benched him? It seems he got beef with Milliner more for whatever reason. Well I know the reason actually, its bc Idzik traded away his cornerback and gave him Milliner in his place false. We have corners that can play. You bench the WRs and who do u get on the field? heck with kerley out i dont even know if we had anyone left on the roster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stugotz81 Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 false. We have corners that can play. You bench the WRs and who do u get on the field? ummm I dont know...put the extra corner backs out there to play wide receiver then.....would it have even mattered with all those dropped balls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsjetsjetss Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 ummm I dont know...put the extra corner backs out there to play wide receiver then.....would it have even mattered with all those dropped balls a lot of corners play corner because they cant catch this is some rex conspiracy its simply we are deeper at corner. Walls is playing well from what i hear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor99 Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 But what i dont get, Tom...is why wasn't half the wide receiving corps benched? Why hasnt he ever pulled sanchez in the past and benched him? It seems he got beef with Milliner more for whatever reason. Well I know the reason actually, its bc Idzik traded away his cornerback and gave him Milliner in his place Because Rex is primarily concerned with the D. If you make him look bad on D, you sit. On O, who cares? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stugotz81 Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 a lot of corners play corner because they cant catch this is some rex conspiracy its simply we are deeper at corner. Walls is playing well from what i hear so what you're saying is our wide receivers should try out for corner back then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stugotz81 Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Because Rex is primarily concerned with the D. If you make him look bad on D, you sit. On O, who cares? thats what it seems like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Could be Antrelle Rolle part two...which is ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 look it up. Its a known fact that saban doesnt want them to. He can backpedel obviously but wasnt taught it so there is some time needed. Corner is normally a slow developing position for first year players so i wouldnt be suprised if he isnt to great this year. Ok, I'm not going to argue anymore. If he couldnt backpedal (which is rediculous), he shouldnt have been a top 10 pick. Furthermore, its not a slow developing position. He was picked in the top 10. If you are a CB picked in the top 10, you should have an immediate impact. All this is adding up to is that once again the Jets got screwed when the Rams traded up for Austin. Then they had no idea what to do and picked the highest rated guy in their pro football preview draft magazine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 look it up. Its a known fact that saban doesnt want them to. He can backpedel obviously but wasnt taught it so there is some time needed. Corner is normally a slow developing position for first year players so i wouldnt be suprised if he isnt to great this year. We do too backpedal,” Saban said. “They’re taught to backpedal. They all can backpedal. If you come to practice every day, they backpedal in individual, they backpedal sometimes when they’re playing. We play our corners up on people a lot so sometimes they bail off, sometimes they play bump and run, sometimes they get off and backpedal. http://blogs.tennesseevalleynow.com/bamablog/2012/09/17/saban-disputes-kirkpatricks-statement-about-backpedaling/ Two points on this. 1) It looks like the two worst scouting departments got jobbed in consecutive drafts by drafting corners from Alabama (Bengals and Jets). 2) You really do not understand the CB position if you think there is a long transition to the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Because Rex is primarily concerned with the D. If you make him look bad on D, you sit. On O, who cares? Sad, but hard to argue. I wonder if a reporter asked him this yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 We're allowing players to compete for starting jobs. I see nothing wrong with this. Can we wait until Milliner has played more than 2 games before claiming Idzik doesn't know what he's doing? **** no. REACT, dammit, react! This sh*t is real! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Sad, but hard to argue. I wonder if a reporter asked him this yet Yeah, totally. Iunno how you guys do this year in and year out. I just remembered the whole "NFL is a male soap opera" thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Could be Antrelle Rolle part two...which is ok . Rolle is a really, really, really good player. I'll take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Yeah, totally. Iunno how you guys do this year in and year out. I just remembered the whole "NFL is a male soap opera" thing. You lost me with this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 You lost me with this one The post I quoted had one of those moments of cartoonish exaggeration that I've come to expect after a loss. It reminded me that the NFL takes us men fan on an emotional roller coaster ride during the season, just like our favorite soaps. It was so solemn and serious about such a nonsense statement - Rex Ryan not caring about the offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 The post I quoted had one of those moments of cartoonish exaggeration that I've come to expect after a loss. It reminded me that the NFL takes us men fan on an emotional roller coaster ride during the season, just like our favorite soaps. It was so solemn and serious about such a nonsense statement - Rex Ryan not caring about the offense. Lol. Hey man, don't say that too loud. The drama keeps this place in business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Lol. Hey man, don't say that too loud. The drama keeps this place in business. JetNation will live forever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 JetNation will live forever! You make a good point btw. I'll try and take the other POV from my earlier reply. Maybe Rex just didn't have any more receivers to even play. It's obvious how horrible it was last night, but in the Milliner case he could put that other kid in. In Gates and Hill's case.....(fill in the blank?). Which sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Put Milliner at safety and I bet he a beast! He actually has the body type to fit a safety and since his man to man cover skills are weak he may adapt better. Obviusly now would be a bit premature to do something like that but maybe that would be an option before we called him a bust in the future acid flashback to Lowery. Might be a solution if he's still really struggling NEXT yr. worked for Antrell Rolle. And Lowery... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsjetsjetss Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 We do too backpedal,” Saban said. “They’re taught to backpedal. They all can backpedal. If you come to practice every day, they backpedal in individual, they backpedal sometimes when they’re playing. We play our corners up on people a lot so sometimes they bail off, sometimes they play bump and run, sometimes they get off and backpedal. http://blogs.tennesseevalleynow.com/bamablog/2012/09/17/saban-disputes-kirkpatricks-statement-about-backpedaling/ Two points on this. 1) It looks like the two worst scouting departments got jobbed in consecutive drafts by drafting corners from Alabama (Bengals and Jets). 2) You really do not understand the CB position if you think there is a long transition to the NFL. saban says they are taught to backpedal If you watched any college football ud realize they do not backpedal in the games but you saying milliner cant cover shows me u didnt. whose a good rookie cb? and austin doesnt look like anything special case in point = Lots of nfl scouts > guy on a message board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro55 Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Really? You're gonna talk ancient history now? Tannenbaum is gone. Through 2 weeks it already looks like Idzik made a great call on at least 2 of his first 3 picks (Richardson and Geno). Few teams get a starting-caliber QB in round 2 or later. For every Geno there's a lot of Jimmy Clausen's and Kellen Clemens'. Lets stop with the Geno kool aid. He's looked as good as Sanchez. And that's not a good thing. He was ok in game 1. Nothing awe inspiring to say he is a great pick. He had 3 INTs in game two. When Petyon or Eli or Drew Brees or any other Pro Bowl QB has a 3 INT game, but also throws 3 TDS people don't praise how they had a great game. 3 Picks is 3 picks no matter how you slice it. Making excuses is just drinking to much kool aid. Geno had some ok moments last night, but overall, he had a bad game. And teams have more than 3 picks plus free agents. The goal of this season is to build for the future. Get enough free agents and draft picks who are good enough to make a difference. So far the free agent signings aren't really panning out as that good. And Geno is a work in progress. He's young and has a long way to go. But saying he's a good pick is the same as saying he's a terrible pick. He hasn't really proven he's good or bad at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 he missed a lot of camp he needed the wake up call lets just see how he repsponds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodeawhodat Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 he missed a lot of camp he needed the wake up call lets just see how he repsponds True. He had a forced fumble fwiw... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 he missed a lot of camp he needed the wake up call lets just see how he repsponds ...and a couple pre-season games if I recall correctly. Like, preweek3 and preweek4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Still the pick I hate the most, even though I still think he can be a top CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 it's sad to think his legs might be done during his rookie season, let's hope not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 saban says they are taught to backpedal If you watched any college football ud realize they do not backpedal in the games but you saying milliner cant cover shows me u didnt. whose a good rookie cb? and austin doesnt look like anything special case in point = Lots of nfl scouts > guy on a message board You said that Saban doesnt teach them to backpedal. Now you are saying that Alabama CB's don't backpedal in games? lol Ridiculous. I'm starting to now think you work for the Jets scouting department. You want me to name a good rookie CB from this years draft or any draft? Did you watch Dallas at all last season? Have you ever heard of Patrick Peterson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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