CTM Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 If Geno fails it's time for a new staff. Geno's development falls directly on Rex Ryan's shoulders. meh.. Sanchez projected to Akili Smith, and Geno fell into the second round for a reason. We aren't talking blue chippers being ruined here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 In a preseason game on August 16th, 2010, Sanchez went 13/17 for 119 yards, threw a TD and had a 90.1 QB Rating. In a preseason game on August 15th, 2011, Sanchez went 6 for 7 for 43 yards and had a 92.3 QB Rating. In a preseason game on August 24th, 2013, Sanchez went 5 for 6 for 72 yards and had a 116.7 QB Rating. It'll be really cool for Sanchez if he's actually become a better QB and turns into the next Jeff Garcia. It really will be. But until proven otherwise in a meaningful game, I'd say the Sanchez haters haven't been proven wrong just yet. sanchez's problem was always pressure. preseason games d coordinators don't bring the heat. he is one of better backups in the league because of his experience in big games. but not a guy you are betting your season on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted August 22, 2014 Author Share Posted August 22, 2014 meh.. Sanchez projected to Akili Smith, and Geno fell into the second round for a reason. We aren't talking blue chippers being ruined here. If Geno fails, and you want to keep the current staff, they need to go trade for a Tony Romo-type QB because you damn sure can't give them another QB to develop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted August 22, 2014 Author Share Posted August 22, 2014 Also, environment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Unless Geno turns out to be the better QB it really won't be cool. At all. It will mean that management let a bunch of lunatic fans get rid of what turned out to be a good QB because he ran into someones ass. #Fans'Fault Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 If Geno fails, and you want to keep the current staff, they need to go trade for a Tony Romo-type QB because you damn sure can't give them another QB to develop. So your hope is to go 8-8? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 meh.. Sanchez projected to Akili Smith, and Geno fell into the second round for a reason. We aren't talking blue chippers being ruined here. It's up to the coach to figure it out. No more excuses for the offense sucking. Teams have figured out how to move the ball with worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 sanchez's problem was always pressure. preseason games d coordinators don't bring the heat. he is one of better backups in the league because of his experience in big games. but not a guy you are betting your season on. Steelers were blitzing like crazy last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 It's up to the coach to figure it out. No more excuses for the offense sucking. Teams have figured out how to move the ball with worse. who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Steelers were blitzing like crazy last night. yeah ok so a few exceptions destroy the premise i guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 If Geno fails, and you want to keep the current staff, they need to go trade for a Tony Romo-type QB because you damn sure can't give them another QB to develop. If this year is a debacle, Rex goes, as much as I think Idzik hasn't fielded a very good roster here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 It's up to the coach to figure it out. No more excuses for the offense sucking. Teams have figured out how to move the ball with worse. who? Umm, if they were able to move the ball wouldn't that automatically make them better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 yeah ok so a few exceptions destroy the premise i guess Point is he looks a lot different with a new coach who knows offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 The coaching doesn't matter narrative is cute. QB's are just born awesome...is that what we're going with? We should just keep drafting QB's and keep Rex till we get one who's good? Coaching at this level is crucial for QB/offense success. Defenses are too fast advanced to have poor offensive coaching. Rex hired Sporano...Geno is 100% Rex's responsibility... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 meh.. Sanchez projected to Akili Smith, and Geno fell into the second round for a reason. We aren't talking blue chippers being ruined here. If Sanchez was Akili Smith why wasn't he benched? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 If Sanchez was Akili Smith why wasn't he benched? that is actually part of the reason I wanted Rex fired before last season, cupcake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 that is actually part of the reason I wanted Rex fired before last season, cupcake Right. So if Rex can't recognize or fix a bad offense- why is he here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 If Sanchez was Akili Smith why wasn't he benched? Because what we had on the bench was even worse. This isn't a difficult equation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Point is he looks a lot different with a new coach who knows offense. I think the point is that Sanchez has played well in the preseason before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 I think the point is that Sanchez has played well in the preseason before. Not like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Because what we had on the bench was even worse. This isn't a difficult equation. Sounds like an organization/coaching staff that doesn't have a clue about offense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 The coaching doesn't matter narrative is cute. QB's are just born awesome...is that what we're going with? We should just keep drafting QB's and keep Rex till we get one who's good? Coaching at this level is crucial for QB/offense success. Defenses are too fast advanced to have poor offensive coaching. Rex hired Sporano...Geno is 100% Rex's responsibility... If I had more time, I can list plenty of genuis OC's who went on to struggle on offense after leaving their top QB. The only coach that i can think of in recent times who had a profound impact on QB development + had consistent success with multiple QB's was Walsh.. but his system was innovative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Point is he looks a lot different with a new coach who knows offense. true but as posted above, he usually looks better in preseason because of vanilla defense and generally less pressure (my assertion), so hard to know whether it is "real" or just typical sanchez c*cktease Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 If I had more time, I can list plenty of genuis OC's who went on to struggle on offense after leaving their top QB. The only coach that i can think of in recent times who had a profound impact on QB development + had consistent success with multiple QB's was Walsh.. but his system was innovative. Harbaugh, Reid and now Chip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Sounds like an organization/coaching staff that doesn't have a clue about offense Or one that was married to their #4 Draft Pick and had a ton of early success in spite of him. It's not too hard to imagine Jets thinking at the time. We are doing very well with a rookie QB, once he makes the leap we will be golden. And lets face it, monkeys like Pac and Smash still fawn over Sanchez for a reason, he certainly flashed at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Harbaugh, Reid and now Chip. San Francisco's offense was a juggernaut? Which QB's has Chip had success with? KC was 24 in yards and 15 in DVOA, with a veteran QB.. under reid.., in 2005 when McNab was hurt, Eagles offense was not very good. IN either event, even if I give you 2 of these, the list is much longer on the QB made the OC side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Sanchez sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsjetsjetss Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Sanchez needed to go. that being said he looked ok for us before he got hurt and he should be entering his prime. it shouldn't be a surprise he is playing better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 #Fans'Fault Pretty much.. Same reason they got rid of Mangini (which was a great thing). For your sake, lets just hope Geno turns out to be a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Come on, the fact that everyone is saying the year off and surgery helped his velocity says a lot. If Sancez is better it will be because of that, maturity and humbling nature of losing his job and getting cut. Sanchez was a very bad QB here. Nonsense. He has a competent OC and weapons. 2 things he never while here. How can you not see that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 that is actually part of the reason I wanted Rex fired before last season, cupcake Bingo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Nonsense. He has a competent OC and weapons. 2 things he never while here. How can you not see that? Pre-season football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 San Francisco's offense was a juggernaut? Which QB's has Chip had success with? KC was 24 in yards and 15 in DVOA, with a veteran QB.. under reid.., in 2005 when McNab was hurt, Eagles offense was not very good. IN either event, even if I give you 2 of these, the list is much longer on the QB made the OC side Brett Favre, by ignoring Schotty Jr, made him look legit. End of argument - in your favor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Pretty much.. Same reason they got rid of Mangini (which was a great thing). For your sake, lets just hope Geno turns out to be a player. LMAO Are you going to beat him up if he's not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 For your sake, lets just hope Geno turns out to be a player. OR ELSE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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