bergenjets Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 to be a star in week 1? Just trying to understand why some think this draft was a bust after Amaro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJets Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 richard sherman, julius thomas, alfred morris, geno atkins, aaron hernandez, alteran verner, kam chancellor, greg hardy, antonio brown, brandon marshall, bethea, IK enemkpali all pro-bowlers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeC36 Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 richard sherman, julius thomas, alfred morris, geno atkins, aaron hernandez, alteran verner, kam chancellor, greg hardy, antonio brown, brandon marshall, bethea, IK enemkpali all pro-bowlers I see what you did there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bergenjets Posted August 31, 2014 Author Share Posted August 31, 2014 richard sherman, julius thomas, alfred morris, geno atkins, aaron hernandez, alteran verner, kam chancellor, greg hardy, antonio brown, brandon marshall, bethea, IK enemkpali all pro-bowlers Pro-bowlers in week 1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 if dex doesn't get hurt, I think we are all feeling very different about this draft if IK and Riley and George pan out it is actually a very good draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bergenjets Posted August 31, 2014 Author Share Posted August 31, 2014 richard sherman, julius thomas, alfred morris, geno atkins, aaron hernandez, alteran verner, kam chancellor, greg hardy, antonio brown, brandon marshall, bethea, IK enemkpali all pro-bowlers Out of 128 (plus supplementals) post 3rd round picks each year for how many years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJets Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Pro-bowlers in week 1? What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJets Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Out of 128 (plus supplementals) post 3rd round picks each year for how many years? I didn't name all of them, and there are a bunch of other solid starters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bergenjets Posted August 31, 2014 Author Share Posted August 31, 2014 I didn't name all of them, and there are a bunch of other solid starters So let's see what happens before declaring a busted draft in the preseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJets Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 So let's see what happens before declaring a busted draft in the preseason. Ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 So let's see what happens before declaring a busted draft in the preseason. What concerns me is that none of them looked even so much as decent in the pre season. I liked Enunwa and still do - but he kinda sucked so far. Most of the time, even the solid starters drafted after the third round will show some flashes early in camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJets Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 if dex doesn't get hurt, I think we are all feeling very different about this draft if IK and Riley and George pan out it is actually a very good draft What concerns me is that none of them looked even so much as decent in the pre season. I liked Enunwa and still do - but he kinda sucked so far. Most of the time, even the solid starters drafted after the third round will show some flashes early in camp. Dex looked pretty damn good, and unfortunately he got hurt, if he didn't get hurt we have 3 instant starters (now that patterson is gone). I'll take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 if dex doesn't get hurt, I think we are all feeling very different about this draft if IK and Riley and George pan out it is actually a very good draft If Don Shula tarps the field, the Jets beat the Dolphins. All of those guys have yet to prove they can play on the JV level, let alone NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Dex looked pretty damn good, and unfortunately he got hurt, if he didn't get hurt we have 3 instant starters (now that patterson is gone). I'll take it. What? Looked good when? He never even started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJets Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 What? Looked good when? He never even started. vs the colts, he played pretty good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 vs the colts, he played pretty good Against the two's? C'mon dude I want to believe this draft was good too - but you guys are really reaching. It was a higher risk than Stephan Hill was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bergenjets Posted August 31, 2014 Author Share Posted August 31, 2014 Against the two's? C'mon dude I want to believe this draft was good too - but you guys are really reaching. It was a higher risk than Stephan Hill was. How so? Third round with no trade up. Not even close to the level of the Hill fiasco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJets Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Against the two's? C'mon dude I want to believe this draft was good too - but you guys are really reaching. It was a higher risk than Stephan Hill was. We'll see man, I thought he looked good and I really think we'll be surprised when he comes back. There are diamonds in the rough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 How so? Third round with no trade up. Not even close to the level of the Hill fiasco. Atleast Hill played a full season in his senior year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 We'll see man, I thought he looked good and I really think we'll be surprised when he comes back. There are diamonds in the rough I know there are. There are also busts. With this many draft picks, I expected one Jason Fabini, Jeremy Kerley or even Kerry Rhodes, just one. You guys are setting the bar way too low for Idzik and its kind of annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Against the two's? C'mon dude I want to believe this draft was good too - but you guys are really reaching. It was a higher risk than Stephan Hill was. He played well in coverage against the 1's., dumbski. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJets Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 I know there are. There are also busts. With this many draft picks, I expected one Jason Fabini, Jeremy Kerley or even Kerry Rhodes, just one. You guys are setting the bar way too low for Idzik and its kind of annoying. I'll be honest, I was hoping for Idzik to trade for another 4th or something but he didn't. I'll be honest again, it's kind of annoying how you haven't gave these guys a full game before you call them busts. Maybe you're right but your word is as good as mine in this situation. Let it play out and we'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 He played well in coverage against the 1's., dumbski. Does Andrew Luck know about this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 I'll be honest, I was hoping for Idzik to trade for another 4th or something but he didn't. I'll be honest again, it's kind of annoying how you haven't gave these guys a full game before you call them busts. Maybe you're right but your word is as good as mine in this situation. Let it play out and we'll see. Time will tell, and I am assuming some of this based on how bad last years draft was (outside of Richardson). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 to be a star in week 1? Just trying to understand why some think this draft was a bust after Amaro. Because there's rules for the other 31 teams, and then there's the rules for the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Does Andrew Luck know about this? He wasn't the one of the guys that Luck burned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Jeremy Kerley gets so much love around here. The kids above average but damn you'd think he was TY Hilton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 I'll be honest, I was hoping for Idzik to trade for another 4th or something but he didn't. I'll be honest again, it's kind of annoying how you haven't gave these guys a full game before you call them busts. Maybe you're right but your word is as good as mine in this situation. Let it play out and we'll see. what's aggravating is how much Idzik ball-washing there is from the same people who questioned every 3rd-and-18 play call from Schottenheimer. Yes, Idzik is rebuilding the team just don't try to tell me that releasing holmes, sanchez, and cromartie took a genius. trading revis was a great deal, signing Goodsen was a disaster. The WR situation sunk this team last year. The Jets were signing players off the street on Tuesday and playing them on Sunday. It was probably the worst set of WR's every assembled on a single NFL team. That too is on Idzik. This year Idzik screwed up at CB. You know Rex wanted Revis, instead we overpaid for Patterson who turned out to be a turd. We also had 12 picks and right now the majority look like career backups/special teamers. As you said, time will tell the value of these first 2 drafts. As a Jet fan I hope that some of these guys turn into stars - if you had to ask me which ones I wouldn't even begin to guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 If Don Shula tarps the field, the Jets beat the Dolphins. All of those guys have yet to prove they can play on the JV level, let alone NFL. you don't put guys on the 53 man roster unless they showed you something. 95% of all the rookies still have something to prove, the jets rookies are no diferent what I was saying about dex was a lot of jets fans seem to just dismiss pryor and amaro and focus on saunders. it's weird. other teams fans might be happy about and pryor and actually post about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Against the two's? C'mon dude I want to believe this draft was good too - but you guys are really reaching. It was a higher risk than Stephan Hill was. A third rounder was a higher risk than Stephen Hill whome we spent a 2nd, a 5th n a 7th to draft? Serious question, how? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 A third rounder was a higher risk than Stephen Hill whome we spent a 2nd, a 5th n a 7th to draft? Serious question, how? Stephen hill was a physical freak with a 2nd round grade on him. mcdougle missed most of his last year in college with an injury and had a 5th round grade. there is definitely an argument there. throw in the fact that idzik was basically relying on him to be a starter, considering he couldn't/didn't/failed to bring in a starter at corner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 A third rounder was a higher risk than Stephen Hill whome we spent a 2nd, a 5th n a 7th to draft? Serious question, how? also, whats a bigger risk? trading a 2nd, 5th, & 7th for a second round graded player or spending a 3rd on a 5th round graded player. its all a gamble, but not much of a difference there,imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 to be a star in week 1? Just trying to understand why some think this draft was a bust after Amaro. I don't know who the last one was. I do know with certainty, that it wont be the jets 3rd round pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 If you draft an injury prone guy and he gets hurt, it is on you. I think McDougle just had the one shoulder injury. Anyone can get hurt once. So I do not hold that against the team. Now, he has had two. It may be that he is injury prone. But there was no way to make that claim at the time of the draft. And can we let these guys play a little before declaring them obsolete? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Football players play. This potential bullsh*t is dumb. These are the same people that declared themselves the victors of the Stephen Hill debate after the Buffalo game. Winners go home and **** the prom queen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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