jgb Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5OFlPcEzbU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SAR I Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 We got here because Woody Johnson threw two guys out he should have kept, and kept the one guy he should have thrown out. SAR I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 We got here because Woody Johnson threw two guys out he should have kept, and kept the one guy he should have thrown out. SAR I I agree with SAR I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 I agree with SAR I I'm not saying we'd be Super Bowl bound if we made that move by the way. I'm saying that Tannenbaum proved he could build a very competitive roster from his contributions 1996-2012 and Sanchez proved he could handle the postseason pressure with a decent set of playmakers around him from 2009-2011. Tannenbaum proved he was a competent GM. Sanchez had potential. Idzik is a nobody operations manager with zero player personnel experience and Geno wasn't an NFL caliber quarterback prospect. Ryan hasn't changed one iota since his first NFL game, still making the same mistakes. SAR I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 We got here because Woody Johnson threw two guys out he should have kept, and kept the one guy he should have thrown out. SAR I I agree with SAR I hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartanJet Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 We got here because Woody Johnson threw two guys out he should have kept, and kept the one guy he should have thrown out. SAR I Need a picture of Bradway as well as he has been a disastrous GM and scouting consultant. Just look at our drafts since he got here since 2001. I'm not sure how he is still employed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 I'm not saying we'd be Super Bowl bound if we made that move by the way. I'm saying that Tannenbaum proved he could build a very competitive roster from his contributions 1996-2012 and Sanchez proved he could handle the postseason pressure with a decent set of playmakers around him from 2009-2011. Tannenbaum proved he was a competent GM. Sanchez had potential. Idzik is a nobody operations manager with zero player personnel experience and Geno wasn't an NFL caliber quarterback prospect. Ryan hasn't changed one iota since his first NFL game, still making the same mistakes. SAR I Idzik has done nothing for this team Watching yesterdays game a few of my friends all said it wasn't Sanchez afterall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Idzik has done nothing for this team Watching yesterdays game a few of my friends all said it wasn't Sanchez afterall Sanchez is gone because of the Buttfumble, plain and simple. He was the scapegoat for an embarrassed owner and a lousy head coach. "Sanchez had to go, he'd worn out his welcome in New York" is the reason why we are where we are today. "He needed a fresh start somewhere else" is the same thing they said in Atlanta and Tampa Bay before showing Brett Favre and Steve Young the door with Kick Me signs taped to their backs. SAR I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jgb Posted October 6, 2014 Author Share Posted October 6, 2014 only the jets. gave our rivals the best coach and top 3 QB of our generation. and before that, took kenny O over marino. only afc east team we haven't done a favor for is the bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Need a picture of Bradway as well as he has been a disastrous GM and scouting consultant. Just look at our drafts since he got here since 2001. I'm not sure how he is still employed. The Revis draft pick was the best one this franchise has made since Joe Willy. That and standing on a table for Russell Wilson in Tanny's last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 The Revis draft pick was the best one this franchise has made since Joe Willy. That and standing on a table for Russell Wilson in Tanny's last year. Visionary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Sanchez is gone because of the Buttfumble, plain and simple. He was the scapegoat for an embarrassed owner and a lousy head coach. "Sanchez had to go, he'd worn out his welcome in New York" is the reason why we are where we are today. "He needed a fresh start somewhere else" is the same thing they said in Atlanta and Tampa Bay before showing Brett Favre and Steve Young the door with Kick Me signs taped to their backs. SAR I The other 23 fumbles and 36 INTs over 2011 and 2012 had nothing to do with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SAR I Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 The other 23 fumbles and 36 INTs over 2011 and 2012 had nothing to do with it? Mark Sanchez had a similarly brutal offensive line, a worse offensive coordinator, and worse playmakers than Smith has, how's that working out for Geno? SAR I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Mark Sanchez had a similarly brutal offensive line, a worse offensive coordinator, and worse playmakers than Smith has, how's that working out for Geno? SAR I Worse playmakers? WTF are you even talking about? Post op David Nelson has been starting for Geno. I am not sure when the Jets offensive line got brutal, but I suppose you are blaming things on Faneca leaving? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Worse playmakers? WTF are you even talking about? Post op David Nelson has been starting for Geno. I am not sure when the Jets offensive line got brutal, but I suppose you are blaming things on Faneca leaving? Mark Sanchez was good when he had playmakers like: Edwards, Holmes, Cotchery, Burress, Keller, Tomlinson, Richardson, Jones, Washington. Mark Sanchez wasn't good when he had fap like: Schillens, Hill, Kerley, McKnight, Gates, Hilliard, Reuland, Gilyard, Greene. That's what I'm talking about. Geno has Decker and Ivory and Mornhinweg. Mark had Shillens and Hill and Sparano. SAR I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Damien Woody was the best player this franchise had other than Revis over the past 15 years or so. He was the best player on the 2009 offense....we havent drafted a lineman worth a damn in 8 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartanJet Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 The Revis draft pick was the best one this franchise has made since Joe Willy. That and standing on a table for Russell Wilson in Tanny's last year. So since 2001 the Revis pick makes up for all the other misses? Reminds me of that saying with the blind squirrel and finding a nut. The Russell story doesn't count since we didn't draft him no matter how many tables were used in the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Mark Sanchez was good when he had playmakers like: Edwards, Holmes, Cotchery, Burress, Keller, Tomlinson, Richardson, Jones, Washington. Mark Sanchez wasn't good when he had fap like: Schillens, Hill, Kerley, McKnight, Gates, Hilliard, Reuland, Gilyard, Greene. That's what I'm talking about. Geno has Decker and Ivory and Mornhinweg. Mark had Shillens and Hill and Sparano. SAR I Geno has had Decker? That is news to me and the injury list. He has done pretty well when he had Decker. Sanchez was never actually good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 I am not sure when the Jets offensive line got brutal, but I suppose you are blaming things on Faneca leaving? Rivers lost two OL starters yesterday, DJ Fluker was on crutches leaving the stadium. Hardwick was already out for the y ear. the line isn't that bad. The problem is similar to that in late stage Sanchez, the other teams know he can't make quick reads and accurate throws so they are blitzing the balls off him. And why not. If Geno Smith was in another team's uniform, that's how the Jets would game plan for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 6, 2014 Author Share Posted October 6, 2014 Mark Sanchez was good when he had playmakers like: Edwards, Holmes, Cotchery, Burress, Keller, Tomlinson, Richardson, Jones, Washington. Mark Sanchez wasn't good when he had fap like: Schillens, Hill, Kerley, McKnight, Gates, Hilliard, Reuland, Gilyard, Greene. That's what I'm talking about. Geno has Decker and Ivory and Mornhinweg. Mark had Shillens and Hill and Sparano. SAR I Actually he was never good. The jets were able to win despite him behind the best defense and run game in the league. His numbers actually improved every year until he regressed in 2012, if memory serves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrunder Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Actually he was never good. The jets were able to win despite him behind the best defense and run game in the league. His numbers actually improved every year until he regressed in 2012, if memory serves I don't know that any QB would have been successful with that 12 offense. Between the players, and the coaching, it was a historically bad offense. Good QB's may have been better than the atrocious play we saw from Sanchez in 12, but, that offense was putrid of a different type. I still don't see how Rex survived 12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 6, 2014 Author Share Posted October 6, 2014 I don't know that any QB would have been successful with that 12 offense. Between the players, and the coaching, it was a historically bad offense. Good QB's may have been better than the atrocious play we saw from Sanchez in 12, but, that offense was putrid of a different type. I still don't see how Rex survived 12. SOJ, brother Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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