UnitedWhofans Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Here's all you need to know about Dan Quinn He had the MVP at QB playing a in a weak division; the highest scoring offense in the NFL, and led them to 11 wins Bowles had a journeyman QB playing in a very tough division and won 10. Tell me which one was more impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjbuddy Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 23 hours ago, joewilly12 said: My how a year has changed everything, just like here right. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2015/11/29/the-maddening-case-of-matt-ryan/?utm_term=.32e5b1962be4 One year ago you could find a ton of articles questioning Matt Ryan's ability at QB. Some even questioned Kyle Shanahan sticking around: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/12/01/falcons-owe-matt-ryan-more-than-50-million-over-the-next-three-years/ Thing is, Quinn was responsible for hiring Kyle Shanahan. Would have hired him if he was hired with the Jets: http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/report-dan-quinn-could-bring-kyle-shanahan-if-hired-by-jets/. As for the talent, that is the responsibility of the front office to find that talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 2 hours ago, UnitedWhofans said: Here's all you need to know about Dan Quinn He had the MVP at QB playing a in a weak division; the highest scoring offense in the NFL, and led them to 11 wins Bowles had a journeyman QB playing in a very tough division and won 10. Tell me which one was more impressive. LOL excuse after excuse yet in 2015 when Ryan Fitzpatrick won 10 games with the easiest schedule in the NFL everyone said it was greatness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 2 hours ago, UnitedWhofans said: Here's all you need to know about Dan Quinn He had the MVP at QB playing a in a weak division; the highest scoring offense in the NFL, and led them to 11 wins Bowles had a journeyman QB playing in a very tough division and won 10. Tell me which one was more impressive. one is in a conference championship game while the other couldn't make the playoffs w/ a much better D against a MUCH weaker schedule. so to answer your question what Quinn has done has been MUCH, MUCH, MUCH, MUCH more impressive. he actually looks like an NFL HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 But Quinn is garbage compared to Rex's 6 years in a row missing the playoffs and his .432 wining % during that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 31 minutes ago, nyjunc said: one is in a conference championship game while the other couldn't make the playoffs w/ a much better D against a MUCH weaker schedule. so to answer your question what Quinn has done has been MUCH, MUCH, MUCH, MUCH more impressive. he actually looks like an NFL HC. Not in a league where 11-5 is a #2 seed. Falcons are taking advantage of a very mediocre NFL this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 4 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: Not in a league where 11-5 is a #2 seed. Falcons are taking advantage of a very mediocre NFL this year and we couldn't take advantage of a very mediocre 2015 w/ a creampuff schedule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, nyjunc said: and we couldn't take advantage of a very mediocre 2015 w/ a creampuff schedule. Once again Matt Ryan >>>>>>>>>> Ryan Fitzpatrick. If you look Quinn and Bowles' defenses, they rank the same this year. Plus, and I have been thinking about this which might be dangerous, but if we have the worst QB situation in the NFL and the worst roster in the NFL, as said by people on here, how did we win 5 games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 9 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: Once again Matt Ryan >>>>>>>>>> Ryan Fitzpatrick. If you look Quinn and Bowles' defenses, they rank the same this year. Plus, and I have been thinking about this which might be dangerous, but if we have the worst QB situation in the NFL and the worst roster in the NFL, as said by people on here, how did we win 5 games? I must have missed all the playoff games Matt Ryan was winning before Quinn got there. this year they rank the same but we are talking about 2015 NYJ vs. 2016 Atl 2015 NYJ O 10th 2016 Atl O 2nd 2015 NYJ D 4th 2016 Atl D 25th we had a playoff caliber roster in 2016, it was the worst coached team in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Just now, nyjunc said: I must have missed all the playoff games Matt Ryan was winning before Quinn got there. this year they rank the same but we are talking about 2015 NYJ vs. 2016 Atl 2015 NYJ O 10th 2016 Atl O 2nd 2015 NYJ D 4th 2016 Atl D 25th we had a playoff caliber roster in 2016, it was the worst coached team in the league. That must mean you like Mike Maccagnan as a GM then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 4 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: That must mean you like Mike Maccagnan as a GM then. so far I do. I expected to take a step back this year, I didn't expect to take 15 steps back but I think that was due to coaching. I have hope for Bowles and didn't want him fired but he did an awful job this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 On January 14, 2017 at 5:47 PM, Tony The Wiz said: Every thing I read the Jets was his number 1 choice. Cool story bra. Were we also getting Matt Ryan and Julio Jones as part of the Dan Quinn special? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 On January 16, 2017 at 2:54 PM, nyjunc said: I must have missed all the playoff games Matt Ryan was winning before Quinn got there. this year they rank the same but we are talking about 2015 NYJ vs. 2016 Atl 2015 NYJ O 10th 2016 Atl O 2nd 2015 NYJ D 4th 2016 Atl D 25th we had a playoff caliber roster in 2016, it was the worst coached team in the league. Bowles sucks I agree. I just don't think Quinn is this Jesus figure now because he got Ryan and Julio Jones in their prime And I disagree about our roster. The jets 4 qb's were all horrible. There are backups with more talent than Fitz, Geno, Petty and Hack combined Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 8 hours ago, thadude said: Bowles sucks I agree. I just don't think Quinn is this Jesus figure now because he got Ryan and Julio Jones in their prime And I disagree about our roster. The jets 4 qb's were all horrible. There are backups with more talent than Fitz, Geno, Petty and Hack combined I am not calling him Vince Lombardi but he's done a very good job there and Ryan and Jones had been a part of one playoff win before this year so it's not like it was Montana and Rice. we won 10 games w/ Fitz a year ago, we had a weapon like Bilal Powell emerge late in 2015 and then we ignored him until we were out of the race and the games were meaningless. that's coaching. bigger than QB play or the O was the D, they should have been a top D and instead they were awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Is this stupid thread still going? This isn't about Quinn, its about Ryan and the offense. Quinn is doing a good job, but even Pete Carroll and Bellichick were terrible their first time as coaches because they never had a franchise QB. But that won't stop SOJF's from whining about missing out on Quinn because we all know Quinn would have taken this Jets team with Fitzpatrick to the AFC Championship game this year.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 34 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: Is this stupid thread still going? This isn't about Quinn, its about Ryan and the offense. Quinn is doing a good job, but even Pete Carroll and Bellichick were terrible their first time as coaches because they never had a franchise QB. But that won't stop SOJF's from whining about missing out on Quinn because we all know Quinn would have taken this Jets team with Fitzpatrick to the AFC Championship game this year.... Thank you..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papz187 Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Take Matt Ryan and replace him with Fitzpatrick and it's a totally different song being sung.Now that's not to say he's not a good coach, or Bowles is better because I don't hold Bowles in that high a pedestal, just saying I don't think former Defensive Coordinator Dan Quinn is the top reason for this offensive heavy teams success. Sent from my SM-N915T using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 14 minutes ago, papz187 said: Take Matt Ryan and replace him with Fitzpatrick and it's a totally different song being sung. Now that's not to say he's not a good coach, or Bowles is better because I don't hold Bowles in that high a pedestal, just saying I don't think former Defensive Coordinator Dan Quinn is the top reason for this offensive heavy teams success. Sent from my SM-N915T using Tapatalk Quinn got a franchise QB, a top 3 WR, a top 5 RB with an excellent #2. None of which were available here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Matt Ryan, Julio Jones and Devonta Freeman all pre-date Quinn. Put those 3 on the Jets and let's see if they end up 5-11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 On 1/16/2017 at 3:54 PM, nyjunc said: we had a playoff caliber roster in 2016, it was the worst coached team in the league. Whaaaaa???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 2 minutes ago, SMC said: Matt Ryan, Julio Jones and Devonta Freeman all pre-date Quinn. Put those 3 on the Jets and let's see if they end up 5-11. all 3 guys were on the Falcons when they were 6-10 two years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 1 minute ago, SMC said: Whaaaaa???? we had what should have been best DL in the league which would mask secondary issues. we weren't properly coached, we had good enough OL, good RBs, very good WRs. we should have been a playoff contender at the very least. we were the worst coached team in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 1 minute ago, nyjunc said: all 3 guys were on the Falcons when they were 6-10 two years ago. And they were on the team with Quinn as HC when they went 8-8 and the Jets went 10-6 with Bowles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 1 minute ago, nyjunc said: we had what should have been best DL in the league which would mask secondary issues. we weren't properly coached, we had good enough OL, good RBs, very good WRs. we should have been a playoff contender at the very least. we were the worst coached team in the league. I don't know how coaching led to Fitzpatrick throwing 11 INTs in the first 6 games which led to a 1-5 record. The coaching wasn't great, but this wasn't a playoff caliber squad when the QB is just awful, the No.2 receiver gets hurt, and Revis decided he'd like to take a year long vacation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 8 minutes ago, SMC said: And they were on the team with Quinn as HC when they went 8-8 and the Jets went 10-6 with Bowles. yep, they got better year 1 and then took another step year 2 while we had a weak sched and crapped the bed w/ the playoffs on the line year 1 and were a disaster year 2 w/ playoff expectations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 5 minutes ago, SMC said: I don't know how coaching led to Fitzpatrick throwing 11 INTs in the first 6 games which led to a 1-5 record. The coaching wasn't great, but this wasn't a playoff caliber squad when the QB is just awful, the No.2 receiver gets hurt, and Revis decided he'd like to take a year long vacation. heard of Bilal Powell? maybe if we used him more we don't throw that many INTs? and most of Fitz's INts came in that one KC game so that's not why we were 1-5, it's whyw e lost at KC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 On 1/14/2017 at 6:34 PM, UnitedWhofans said: So to even it out, lets give Bowles an MVP QB and a great young playcaller How is it that you are getting better as a poster? Starting to enjoy your posts. (And yes, I will regret saying that haha). Just teasing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 Guess this is why u call yourself the Wiz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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