Dicetosser Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 8 hours ago, Nolder said: DEADLINE: SUNDAY 9PM PST @Nolder any chance u can use a DL counter? I have no idea what day or time it is for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolder Posted January 20, 2018 Author Share Posted January 20, 2018 22 minutes ago, Dicetosser said: @Nolder any chance u can use a DL counter? I have no idea what day or time it is for you. https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?iso=20180121T21&p0=137&font=cursive&csz=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicetosser Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 ty nol unvote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 6 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: Strongest town reads: Nyn, JiF, JC, AVM. All are putting good thoughts/votes into the game. Might be willing to put Kaylee in this pile too, except I haven't played with her a ton. Lizzie is being lucid again, which always scares me. What do you like from AVM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 unvote vote ctm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Im not sure what time dl is for me but it seems like it'll be while im sleeping or working so i doubt I'll be around for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolder Posted January 20, 2018 Author Share Posted January 20, 2018 Votecount Nyn - AVM, CTM (2) Crusher - 80, Spoot (2) CTM - Crusher, Nyn (2) AVM - JC (1) Kaylee - Pac (1) JC - Jif (1) With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline: Sunday 9PM PST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaylee Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 With deadline being tomorrow we should come to an agreement and achieve a lynch. I'm frustrated that at this point i still don't know who to vote. So in hopes of changing that let's discuss. Current trains are Nyn, CTM, and Crusher. I still have a town read on Nyn and Spoot and to a lesser degree Dice. I won't be voting those 3. As for CTM I can't seem to get a read on and I haven't seen anything from Crusher that has me leaning one way or another either. @Crusher @CTM Why shouldn't you be the lynch? Everyone else: who should be the lynch and why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 12 hours ago, Nynaeve said: Crusher where is your head at? Haven't really kept up. Got to read a little when I get a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 15 hours ago, Nolder said: DEADLINE: SUNDAY 9PM PST weekend deadlines suck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 5 minutes ago, Kaylee said: With deadline being tomorrow we should come to an agreement and achieve a lynch. I'm frustrated that at this point i still don't know who to vote. So in hopes of changing that let's discuss. Current trains are Nyn, CTM, and Crusher. I still have a town read on Nyn and Spoot and to a lesser degree Dice. I won't be voting those 3. As for CTM I can't seem to get a read on and I haven't seen anything from Crusher that has me leaning one way or another either. @Crusher @CTM Why shouldn't you be the lynch? Everyone else: who should be the lynch and why? Other than the fact Im town? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 unvote vote crusher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 19 hours ago, AVM said: Not a ton to go on outside of the couple of heavily discussed items - 80's mass reveal talk and the reactions to it, but from who does have something here goes: 80 - his suggestion and defense of the suggestion came across as townie 80, to me. Adding the second line to the post you pointed out doesn't move the needle one way or another and I think I'm leaning town overall. Considering it was just a full second sentence, it bothers me less than if something were edited. The vote on Crush was the most meh thing he's done thus far and does seem weird. You (Nyn, in case this is quoted later) - The "let's string 80 up" comment - and I'm paraphrasing - was meh, but the rest of the conversation I felt was warranted. 80 is a popular D1 lynch along with folks like Pac so any comments like that come across worse than it would if someone had said it about a difficult D1 lynch like Crush - it could be opportunistic. Neutral-ish at worst read overall though, provided some of the most meaningful content in the game thus far. JC - Appears to be thinking/explaining his thoughts very well. I used to have notes on thinking him announcing things were "very townie posts" being a tell one way or the other but I can't recall which. Don't really have a problem with his vote on me given the lack of information to go on if you feel good about you and 80, which he's claimed he does. Spoot - The realization that Lizzie had an extra vote seemed rather genuine - kept unofficial track, added his and I guess figured Nol had counted correctly (or that he himself had made a mistake copy/pasting? IDK). I tried imagining a scenario where he posts it and a scum QT notices there is an extra vote or something, have him bring it up when Nol makes the official vote but I feel like scum would want to go ahead and bring it up before that 3rd vote. And it feels like I'm stretching too much to even get to that place. I think I lean town. Kaylee - Questioned why Dice voted and "outed" himself at some point. Struck me as townish - not a ton to go on but I'd probably put her #2 behind dice in terms of who I feel great about Just not a lot else to go on at this point and I'm going on and on about maybe 10 total posts with the above, so...eh. Lizzie has an extra vote? I thought that was Dice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 7 minutes ago, Kaylee said: @Crusher @CTM Why shouldn't you be the lynch? cause the town will be majorly fuxord if i die? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 23 hours ago, Lizard King said: I took a position by quoting JiF's post earlier and agreed with it. The summary of the post was that it was too early in the game to know all of the mechanics, and that it didn't feel right to reveal so soon. I don't think 80 is necessarily being scummy though, just derp. What reveal is he referring too? Dice had to do something ebcause its obvious he is a double voter. 23 hours ago, Lizard King said: I really don't have anyone I want to vote yet, nothing is jumping out. Basically not taking a side. 17 hours ago, Lizard King said: I FoS anyone who is goofing around in the thread. We are trying to find scum and this is a very serious situation. Honestly? I'm not sure right now about anything. I have nothing heavy to add that hasn't been said. I think on balance, the 80 philosophy did a good job garnering discussion, but I don't know that the idea itself was good. I've already said this though. I got nothing. So FOS people goofing around in thread? Seriously? Basically still not sticking to his guns on nothing. His response is a giant "I don't know" 17 hours ago, Spoot-Face said: Feeling good about Lizzie's response after my vote, so I'm gonna take it off him for now. unvote vote Crusher Yet, Spoot feels better about Lizzie after Lizzie said nothing. Really would like to know what made you feel better about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaylee Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 1 hour ago, The Crusher said: Other than the fact Im town? how do we know you're town? At least answer who you think should be the lynch why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaylee Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 1 hour ago, CTM said: cause the town will be majorly fuxord if i die? Then who and why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaylee Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 1 hour ago, The Crusher said: What reveal is he referring too? Dice had to do something ebcause its obvious he is a double voter. Basically not taking a side. So FOS people goofing around in thread? Seriously? Basically still not sticking to his guns on nothing. His response is a giant "I don't know" Yet, Spoot feels better about Lizzie after Lizzie said nothing. Really would like to know what made you feel better about him. I like this post. Interested in the response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Kaylee said: Then who and why I do need to read more but I'm still voting CTM because of the contradiction someone pointed out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 44 minutes ago, The Crusher said: I do need to read more but I'm still voting CTM because of the contradiction someone pointed out. How about you read up and let us know where you'r at Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 21 minutes ago, Nynaeve said: How about you read up and let us know where you'r at Im busy today putting a new floor in my office. I can get to it later tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 9 hours ago, Nynaeve said: What do you like from AVM? Self-aware AVM is a town AVM. Though I've been wrong on him before. I'm biased to think he's town a lot of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 I kind of hate deadlines, period. Here we have 15 pages of game thread, where we're mostly just being social, and now we have to rush to a lynch on a weekend. Can't we just do away with deadlines entirely? Or only utilize them when absolutely necessary? This is JN, we don't need to operate like other places. Also, would a random lynch benefit town more than scum? I would think scum would want to control the lynch even more than a typical game, since even a random lynch to a townie could kill off a scum love too very easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 4 hours ago, The Crusher said: What reveal is he referring too? Dice had to do something ebcause its obvious he is a double voter. Basically not taking a side. So FOS people goofing around in thread? Seriously? Basically still not sticking to his guns on nothing. His response is a giant "I don't know" Yet, Spoot feels better about Lizzie after Lizzie said nothing. Really would like to know what made you feel better about him. He didn't get defensive. Simple as that. Like I said, I'm okay with his response. For now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 16 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: I kind of hate deadlines, period. Here we have 15 pages of game thread, where we're mostly just being social, and now we have to rush to a lynch on a weekend. Can't we just do away with deadlines entirely? Or only utilize them when absolutely necessary? Also, would a random lynch benefit town more than scum? I would think scum would want to control the lynch even more than a typical game, since even a random lynch to a townie could kill off a scum love too very easily. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that most people around here agreed that random lynch was more often than not bad for Town? 80 trying to subtly push a random lynch is really, really gross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, Spoot-Face said: Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that most people around here agreed that random lynch was more often than not bad for Town? 80 trying to subtly push a random lynch is really, really gross. I love how we have a totally unique setup we've never seen before, but people jump down my throat when I suggest something outside the box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 I guess game mechanics discussion always = scummy in the new JN Mafia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 6 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: I love how we have a totally unique setup we've never seen before, but people jump down my throat when I suggest something outside the box. 5 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: I guess game mechanics discussion always = scummy in the new JN Mafia? Because there's a fine line between suggesting an innocent question and subtly pushing a scummy agenda. And you, sir, have proven as of late that you are verrrrryyyyy good at walking that line as scum. unvote vote 80 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, Spoot-Face said: Because there's a fine line between suggesting an innocent question and subtly pushing a scummy agenda. And you, sir, have proven as of late that you are verrrrryyyyy good at walking that line as scum. unvote vote 80 lol. There was nothing subtle about it. I asked a question about whether it would be beneficial for us to have a random lynch Rather than deciding to talk about it, you jumped to an immediate, kneejerk, and incorrect conclusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 And I maintain it's very possible that a random lynch potentially hurts scum more than town, if it comes to that. Did you even consider the question? No. You said "Random lynch. Always bad. 80 scum." Caveman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Just now, Jetsfan80 said: lol. There was nothing subtle about it. I asked a question about whether it would be beneficial for us to have a random lynch Rather than deciding to talk about it, you jumped to an immediate, kneejerk, and incorrect conclusion. "Hey guys, instead of trying to find the scummiest person, how about instead we just put our hands in our pockets and play with our genitals while we leave it up to the Random Gods?" No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, Spoot-Face said: "Hey guys, instead of trying to find the scummiest person, how about instead we just put our hands in our pockets and play with our genitals while we leave it up to the Random Gods?" No. "Hey guys, since the deadline is on a Sunday at midnight, and we've had a lot of random lynches in JN games when idiotic deadlines are set, let's discuss the merits or downside of a random lynch, to see whether it's worth it to potentially out a cop or doc." Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Well you've made your viewpoint clear Spoot. What's say we let other people chime in? If anyone is around. On a weekend. With a Sunday deadline at midnight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: And I maintain it's very possible that a random lynch potentially hurts scum more than town, if it comes to that. Did you even consider the question? No. You said "Random lynch. Always bad. 80 scum." Caveman. Yes, it's possible, but the numbers indicate that it's most likely going to hit a Townie, and, because there's still more Town than Scum, their Lover is most likely going to be Town as well. Add in Scum's NK tonight, plus their Lover, and we're lookin at a net loss of 4 Townies. And it's "Captain Caveman", to you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, Spoot-Face said: Yes, it's possible, but the numbers indicate that it's most likely going to hit a Townie, and, because there's still more Town than Scum, their Lover is most likely going to be Town as well. Add in Scum's NK tonight, plus their Lover, and we're lookin at a net loss of 4 Townies. And it's "Captain Caveman", to you! We'll see. If I'm correct about scum only being lovers with townies, and not with each other, and there's 3 scum, that would mean there's a 6/12, or 50 % chance, that scum would be hit on a random lynch. Granted, that would also mean a 50/50 shot on lynches we control. But since scum knows which townies aren't paired with them, there's 6 players in particularly they would want dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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