Week 1: Jets @ 49ers

[Trotter]

23 minutes ago, nycdan said:

confetti....cannoli.... same thing.

Now I’m hungry - a cannoli with a cappuccino would be great right now

[bicketybam]

30 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

Put your money where your mouth is:

If the Jets win: I pay $50 to the charity of your choice.

If the Jets lose: You pay $50 to the charity of my choice.

He could get way better odds at a sportsbook. That a horrible bet.

[Mogglez]

34 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Sure.  you said Jets will get smashed.  Smashed to me is you lose by 3 or more tds.

So if youd like to bet the Jets will get smashed or not, you are on.

But you wont take the bet.  Who are we kidding?

Don’t move the goalposts because it just tells me that, deep down, you don’t think they’re going to win either.  I don’t care what smashed means to you.  Smashed could also mean the game is never close but the Jets score a garbage time TD to lose by 10 so anyone who didn’t watch thinks it was a tight game.

It’s a very simple bet:

Jets lose? You pay. 

Jets win? I pay.  

Take it, as is, or stop spewing your “Jets fans are a plague (edited to avoid the filter)” schtick all over the board to those of us that actually want to talk football objectively.  I’m dead serious about making this deal.  The charity of my choice is St. Jude.

[Mogglez]

20 minutes ago, bicketybam said:

He could get way better odds at a sportsbook. That a horrible bet.

He's been saying that it doesn’t matter who the 49ers have, that the Jets are winning this game easily and calling everyone who doesn’t agree with that notion “a plague (edited to avoid the filter)” for months.  If he’s that serious he’ll take the bet.  My guess is that he isn’t.

You don’t have to think the Jets are a bad team to think that the 49ers are still a step ahead of them and that they’re probably going to lose week 1.

[Joe W. Namath]

11 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

Don’t move the goalposts because it just tells me that, deep down, you don’t think they’re going to win either.  I don’t care what smashed means to you.  Smashed could also mean the game is never close but the Jets score a garbage time TD to lose by 10 so anyone who didn’t watch thinks it was a tight game.

It’s a very simple bet:

Jets lose? You pay. 

Jets win? I pay.  

Take it, as is, or stop spewing your schtick all over the board to those of us that actually want to talk football.  I’m dead serious about this.  Charity of my choice is St. Jude.

Moved the goalposts?  You're here spouting the Jets are going to get smashed.  Put your money where your mouth is.

Ill dropped smashed to 2tds.

But again you wont take the bet.  You'll just continue to whine about how the Jets are going to get smashed on Monday.

 

[Barry McCockinner]

5 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

He's been saying that it doesn’t matter who the 49ers have, that the Jets are winning this game easily and calling everyone who doesn’t agree with that notion “a plague (edited to avoid the filter)” for months.  If he’s that serious he’ll take the bet.  My guess is that he isn’t.

You don’t have to think the Jets are a bad team to think that the 49ers are still a step ahead of them and that they’re probably going to lose week 1.

bicketybam pulled this same sh*t on me when I challenged someone who was popping off to back their BS w/a bet. 

[slimjasi]

Just now, Joe W. Namath said:

Moved the goalposts?  You're here spouting the Jets are going to get smashed.  Put your money where your mouth is.

Ill dropped smashed to 2tds.

But again you wont take the bet.  You'll just continue to whine about how the Jets are going to get smashed on Monday.

 

 

14 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

Don’t move the goalposts because it just tells me that, deep down, you don’t think they’re going to win either.  I don’t care what smashed means to you.  Smashed could also mean the game is never close but the Jets score a garbage time TD to lose by 10 so anyone who didn’t watch thinks it was a tight game.

It’s a very simple bet:

Jets lose? You pay. 

Jets win? I pay.  

Take it, as is, or stop spewing your “Jets fans are a plague (edited to avoid the filter)” schtick all over the board to those of us that actually want to talk football objectively.  I’m dead serious about making this deal.  The charity of my choice is St. Jude.

Why not just bet the spread? Niners have to win by 5 or more. 

 

[bicketybam]

7 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

You don’t have to think the Jets are a bad team to think that the 49ers are still a step ahead of them and that they’re probably going to lose week 1.

That's fair and I tend to agree. I think they will lose a competitive game. Smashed is an entirely different story. Bad teams get smashed.

[Biggs]

12 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

He's been saying that it doesn’t matter who the 49ers have, that the Jets are winning this game easily and calling everyone who doesn’t agree with that notion “Jets fans are the bestd” for months.  If he’s that serious he’ll take the bet.  My guess is that he isn’t.

You don’t have to think the Jets are a bad team to think that the 49ers are still a step ahead of them and that they’re probably going to lose week 1.

I look at this game a lot like Detroit going to KC last year in week 1 and pulling out a win.  It probably didn't mean much to KC but it meant a lot to the Lions.  The Lions had a very good team last year but getting a signature win against a really good team probably changed the mind set for the season.

I think this game is much bigger for the Jets than the 49ers.   The Jets think they are contenders, the 49ers know they are contenders.  Big game for the Jets.  

This should be a tight game and how we finish is really important.  Should be a pretty even game.  Week 1 is not going to give you the best of either team or a lot of adjustments.

[Joe W. Namath]

2 minutes ago, slimjasi said:

 

Why not just bet the spread? Niners have to win by 5 or more. 

 

No.  Big mouth runs it about the jets getting smashed.  Then the bet is on the smashing.

A 3.5 dog on the road is a toss up.  Thats not a smashing.

[bicketybam]

2 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said:

bicketybam pulled this same sh*t on me when I challenged someone who was popping off to back their BS w/a bet. 

My dear Mr. Cock. I am just stating a fact. And in your case I was wrong, but here I am correct. A $50 ML bet on the Jets pays a profit of about $82. 

[Bobby816]

49ers no question are a great team. And that's A LOT bc of coaching with Shanahan. We should be able to gameplan to know what they're going to do IMO. And what do I think we all know they want to do? Get the ball out of Purdy's hand fast and try not to expose their OL that actually isnt that good.

 

So what do we need to make this game winnable? Tackle. We can't miss tackles. Expect screens to CMC, Quick hitters to Kittle and Deebo.

So I expect them to know they're at a disadvantage with their OL. So they make sure they're not exposed if they can.

Where we can attack here is try and score early to where they're forced to throw more. Making it harder to just do quick hitters.

[Barry McCockinner]

1 minute ago, bicketybam said:

My dear Mr. Cock. I am just stating a fact. And in your case I was wrong, but here I am correct. A $50 ML bet on the Jets pays a profit of about $82. 

First of all, thank you for properly addressing me. When someone starts making unreasonable statements and predictions with unlimited confidence the Vegas odds are not applicable IMO. They either believe what they're blabbing about or are full of sh*t. We don't need the Vegas odds regulation committee to chime in.

[slimjasi]

1 minute ago, Joe W. Namath said:

No.  Big mouth runs it about the jets getting smashed.  Then the bet is on the smashing.

A 3.5 dog on the road is a toss up.  Thats not a smashing.

You can still get it at 4 or 4.5 in some places, but either way,  don't you have the Jets winning? You're getting an extra 3.5 points. This should be easy, right? You're confident . . . right?  

[Joe W. Namath]

Just now, Barry McCockinner said:

First of all, thank you for properly addressing me. When someone starts making unreasonable statements and predictions with unlimited confidence the Vegas odds are not applicable IMO. They either believe what they're blabbing about or are full of sh*t. We don't need the Vegas odds regulation committee to chime in.

Correct.  So moggles should be giving me at minimum 21 points for this "smashing" he is predicting the jets are getting.

And I was nice enough to go down to 14 points.

He still wont take it though.  

[Joe W. Namath]

2 minutes ago, slimjasi said:

You can still get it at 4 or 4.5 in some places, but either way,  don't you have the Jets winning? You're getting an extra 3.5 points. This should be easy, right? You're confident . . . right?  

Do I think the Jets will win, yes.  Am I confident enough to put money on it, no.

Not sure where anyone is getting that ive been spouting off about an easy jet win monday night.  That has not been coming from me.

[Biggs]

4 minutes ago, Bobby816 said:

49ers no question are a great team. And that's A LOT bc of coaching with Shanahan. We should be able to gameplan to know what they're going to do IMO. And what do I think we all know they want to do? Get the ball out of Purdy's hand fast and try not to expose their OL that actually isnt that good.

 

So what do we need to make this game winnable? Tackle. We can't miss tackles. Expect screens to CMC, Quick hitters to Kittle and Deebo.

So I expect them to know they're at a disadvantage with their OL. So they make sure they're not exposed if they can.

Where we can attack here is try and score early to where they're forced to throw more. Making it harder to just do quick hitters.

Tackling is the key.  It's also the reason the 49ers are really good.  There WR's, TE and running back are very hard to tackle and their offense gets all of them the ball in space.  They create space and challenge you to tackle their skill guys with your skill guys in space.  

[Trotter]

How about you each donate $50 to st Jude and call it a day.

kind of like you each kicked the other in the nuts and now move on

you feel better, st Jude gets some money and no gambling is involved which is always good

[bicketybam]

1 minute ago, Barry McCockinner said:

First of all, thank you for properly addressing me. When someone starts making unreasonable statements and predictions with unlimited confidence the Vegas odds are not applicable IMO. They either believe what they're blabbing about or are full of sh*t. We don't need the Vegas odds regulation committee to chime in.

I can understand why you would want somebody to take on a bad bet and betting the underdog Jets on the road at even money is exactly that when you can make the same bet at +172 with a sportsbook. Like this. 

[Barry McCockinner]

3 minutes ago, bicketybam said:

I can understand why you would want somebody to take on a bad bet and betting the underdog Jets on the road at even money is exactly that when you can make the same bet at +172 with a sportsbook. Like this. 

Bruh

[bicketybam]

Just now, Barry McCockinner said:

Bruh

I like my odds.

[Mogglez]

Just now, Joe W. Namath said:

Moved the goalposts?  You're here spouting the Jets are going to get smashed.  Put your money where your mouth is.

Ill dropped smashed to 2tds.

But again you wont take the bet.  You'll just continue to whine about how the Jets are going to get smashed on Monday.

 

Again: smashed to me can be a game that isn’t really tight, but a garbage time TD makes it seem closer than it was.

Stop running and take the terms or cut the schtick.

[Mogglez]

22 minutes ago, bicketybam said:

That's fair and I tend to agree. I think they will lose a competitive game. Smashed is an entirely different story. Bad teams get smashed.

I’m glad we agree then.  I don’t think the Jets are a bad team by any stretch, so I’m guilty of using bad terminology, I guess.  As I have said, I think this is a game where they probably lose by 10, but it’s never really in reach despite, maybe, a late TD to make it closer.

[Joe W. Namath]

46 minutes ago, Trotter said:

How about you each donate $50 to st Jude and call it a day.

kind of like you each kicked the other in the nuts and now move on

you feel better, st Jude gets some money and no gambling is involved which is always good

What?  Some guy spouts off the jets are going to get smashed monday, then wont bet the jets will get smashed, and then I should donate to charity?

This is like crazy town.

 

[jamesr]

3 hours ago, Rhg1084 said:

 

Floyd vs Rodgers MNF Part 2

Which Eagle DE was it that put Purdy out of the playoff game with a damaged elbow?

Who now happens to (theoretically, anyway) be on the NY Jets?   

[slats]

11 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Correct.  So moggles should be giving me at minimum 21 points for this "smashing" he is predicting the jets are getting.

And I was nice enough to go down to 14 points.

He still wont take it though.  

 

2 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

Again: smashed to me can be a game that isn’t really tight, but a garbage time TD makes it seem closer than it was.

Stop running and take the terms or cut the schtick.

Why don’t you guys take this compelling argument to PMs? 

[Biggs]

Reddick is lossing a gazillion dollars a day and you guys are talking about a $50 dollar bet as putting your money where your mouth is. 

The Jets are winning.  Just because I can't phanthom the alternative just yet.  You pussey's who think SF is winning are going to be crying in the game thread if were down 3 with 5 minutes to go in the first quarter.

[Mogglez]

3 minutes ago, slats said:

Why don’t you guys take this compelling argument to PMs? 

If he’s going to send a picture of a germ with a thermometer because I don’t think the Jets are going to keep this one close, I’m not going to leave it unanswered.  There is a filter in place to prevent him from using his cute little saying and he skirted it.

I’ve said my piece and will leave it at that.  If he doesn’t want to take the bet, that’s fine.  If he wants to, sure Joe, PM me.  My terms stand though.

[Mogglez]

2 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Do I think the Jets will win, yes.  Am I confident enough to put money on it, no.

Not sure where anyone is getting that ive been spouting off about an easy jet win monday night.  That has not been coming from me.

Page 4 of this very thread:

[bicketybam]

1 minute ago, Mogglez said:

If he’s going to send a picture of a germ with a thermometer because I don’t think the Jets are going to keep this one close, I’m not going to leave it unanswered.  There is a filter in place to prevent him from using his cute little saying and he skirted it.

I’ve said my piece and will leave it at that.  If he doesn’t want to take the bet, that’s fine.  If he wants to, sure Joe, PM me.  My terms stand though.

There's a filter for that word? I had no idea 😄

I honestly don't understand why it's sets some people off the way it does. You can spam a thread with mocking posts about the team and no one says boo, but if Joe mentions that word the place loses their sh*t. I actually find it funny 😄

[Mogglez]

It’s probably been answered somewhere else, but when is Reddick’s check officially “forfeited?”  Thursday?

[Warfish]

A Team that intends to compete for a Super Bowl should be able to go to another contender's city and win.

So that's my standard of expectation/evaluation.  Does the Jets look like a team that can win against another SB competitor in their city.

Doesn't mean that they have to win, this is not a "must win" in week 1 (what a laughable idea), but it IS a statement game.  

Do the 2024 NY Jets announce their arrival, their "best roster", their intentions to really compete with a great game in week 1, come out firing, ready to go, not sloppy......or do they play like the same old Jets, and lose without ever being truly close.

It's not definitive, but this year, week 1 may say a lot about this team and this upcoming season.

We have many reasons for optimism as of now, let's hope we start seeing those reasons in real world ways on Monday night.

[Mogglez]

2 minutes ago, bicketybam said:

There's a filter for that word? I had no idea 😄

I honestly don't understand why it's sets some people off the way it does. You can spam a thread with mocking posts about the team and no one says boo, but if Joe mentions that word the place loses their sh*t. I actually find it funny 😄

Yeah if you use it, it turns it into:

”The Jets fans are the best”, lmfao

[Warfish]

3 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

Yeah if you use it, it turns it into:

”The Jets fans are the best”, lmfao

Better than the T-ippy word filter tbh. 

Constantly spamming/calling people a "D-isease" is pretty obviously against the site rules, and damn rude regardless.

Plus, we already have Same Old Jet (SOJ) as a stand-in for that mindset anyway, no need to get edgy.

[Biggs]

11 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

I’m glad we agree then.  I don’t think the Jets are a bad team by any stretch, so I’m guilty of using bad terminology, I guess.  As I have said, I think this is a game where they probably lose by 10, but it’s never really in reach despite, maybe, a late TD to make it closer.

I think the Jets are team with a mediocre at best HC and a QB who's best days are in the rear view mirror.  That said the season starts this week.  The Jets haven't played a game yet and neither have the 49ers.  There isn't a Jets fan on this board that hates the Jets more than I do.  Still I really believe they have a great shot to win this game.   

The Jets are healthy, the OL looks pretty good.  We have a great running back in Hall and a great WR in Wilson.  The D should be solid to very good.  

Most NFL games have pretty equal talent but real matchup problems that impact outcome.  I really don't see the big mismatches in SF favor this week.  I think Hall and Wilson are a big problem for the 49ers.   If we tackle well, which the d is capable of we have a great shot at limiting the mismatches that SF usually exploits.  I really think this is a toss up game on the road.