4HCrew Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 So what made Bryan Thomas a better player this year? coaching? scheme? combination of both? and would you rather have had Ed Reed on the team instead of him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 So what made Bryan Thomas a better player this year? coaching? scheme? combination of both? and would you rather have had Ed Reed on the team instead of him? I don't know for certain - but some good part of it would have to do with motivation and mental toughness. I think that goes to the coaching staff. Another year up doesn't hurt him either. I'd rather have him over Reed because I don't think Thomas has peaked yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Mac Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 So what made Bryan Thomas a better player this year? coaching? scheme? combination of both? and would you rather have had Ed Reed on the team instead of him?Coaching is what makes the scheme, and the Tuna Helpers always got the most out of marginal DL's. and DEFINITELY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachTsurfing Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 hell yeah I'd take reed. thomas has had a decent year. everyone has been kissing his butt because he finally showed up to play. ed has produced from day one. Thomas has had a year he was supposed to have his rookie season. Now, if he can continue to improve and be consistent I might change my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 The coaching staff has to get credit for this-putting a player in the right position to contribute to the team and hell no Ed Reed we miss you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn306 Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 I think it is alot of scheme. I want to see him do next year as well. As far as Reed is concerned. I would still take him in a heartbeat over Thomas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 It could be a mix of thing. He could've been coached up this season more than any other season that he's been in the league as well as he could've found his position as a 3-4 OLB at being able to stop the run, drop back into coverage and rush the passer and random times. As for if I'd want Reed or Thomas, give me Reed anyday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preston Howley III Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 So what made Bryan Thomas a better player this year? Maturity, coaching, desire. coaching? No doubt. He started to show signs of life last year, with Donnie Henderson and Denny Marcin. His first year, I think Cottrell and Carter were his coaches. scheme? Not sure, 'cos Bryan was never really given an opportunity to play in the 43 D. Last year was a n abberation, because the entire season was a train wreck with Herm preoccupied with manipulating his way out of town, so you couldn't really get a bead on his progress. would you rather have had Ed Reed on the team instead of him? Ed Reed would not be Ed Reed had he been drafted by the Jets. Ed Reed has been a member of a secondary that has had, and continues to have, one of the best defensive front seven in football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.I.MikeBleedsGreen Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 Thomas has played well this year "Finally" but if it came down to him or Reed I'll take Reed all day long, Reed is a baller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 wait a minute thar Babalouies-you mean to actually tell me anyone in their right minds would rather have Ed Frickin REED over BT? The same Bryan Thomas who has switched to LBer and recorded seven and a half sacks? ED REED???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boozer76 Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 wait a minute thar Babalouies-you mean to actually tell me anyone in their right minds would rather have Ed Frickin REED over BT? The same Bryan Thomas who has switched to LBer and recorded seven and a half sacks? ED REED???? Do you even know who Ed Reed is? You realize that on a team chock full of superstars Ed Reed won a defensive MVP? He is by far the most complete S in the NFL in terms of coverage, run support, tackling, and sacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetCane Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 would you rather have had Ed Reed on the team instead of him? Ed Reed would not be Ed Reed had he been drafted by the Jets. Ed Reed has been a member of a secondary that has had, and continues to have, one of the best defensive front seven in football. Ed Reed would still have been Ed Reed, IMO. His first year, 2002, was the same season the NYJ made the playoffs with Ellis, Abraham (10 sacks) Cowart, Donny Abe, and...I forgot who else. He would have stepped up the defense to another level like he did in Miami. He didnt have to be a pro-bowler in Baltimore to make the Ravens defense better. He could have been average or slightly above, and they still would have had a great D. He has given a lot of credit to Ray lewis for taking him under his wing and helping him with the transition from college to pro ball. I dont know who his mentor would have been in NY. Maybe Cowart. I think he would have been great in NY, and part of that was he would have eventually been the leader and captain of the D. More would have been expected of him, but I think he would produce no matter where he went. He would have made a great impact no matter where he played- he's a baller. edit. Reed and Dorsey were the true coaches of the 2001 team that won it all. His halftime speech during the fsu game goes down as a cherished moment in Cane history. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zb9cKXk1Mjk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 Do you even know who Ed Reed is? You realize that on a team chock full of superstars Ed Reed won a defensive MVP? He is by far the most complete S in the NFL in terms of coverage, run support, tackling, and sacks. duh I was thinking James Reed...nevermind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boozer76 Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 duh I was thinking James Reed...nevermind LOL, that makes more sense. I could at least try to listen to reasoning as to why someone might want Thomas over Reed even though I wouldn't agree, but I was flabberghasted that you called those who wanted Reed a bunch of Babbalouie's!! I thought you lost your marbles for a moment there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 A pass rushing DE is worth more than a safety. That is the only reason anybody could possibly give. However, BT has not shown me anything of brilliance. He is playing OK, but he's no dominating pass rusher. As far as I'm concerned he's basically just decent. Not a mandatory spot to upgrade (like Kimo) but I'd take somebody at the same position without blinking an eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steveg Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 So what made Bryan Thomas a better player this year? coaching? scheme? combination of both? and would you rather have had Ed Reed on the team instead of him? Bryan Thomas is a perfect "hybrid" player for a 3-4 scheme (in the Willie McGinest role). He can drop back into coverage and rush the QB. Also, he's healthy (remember he had some dietary problem). He's actually plays both DE and DT fairly well.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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