Jetkid94 Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 has any rookie coaches won a superbowl in recent history? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowmoe57 Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 I believe Seifert won in his first year as a 49ers coach -- But then again look at the team he inherited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 I believe Seifert won in his first year as a 49ers coach -- But then again look at the team he inherited. Yep. He is the only one I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 Bookmark this thread for this time next year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 Don McCafferty (Baltimore Colts 1970) and Seifert are the only ones to win a SB as rookie HCs. Tom Flores (Raiders), Joe Gibbs, and Brian Billick did it in their second year. Either Wisenhunt or Tomlin will join this group. Bill Walsh did it in his 3rd year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 Bookmark this thread for this time next year... Why? Siefert inherited a Superbowl caliber team with a Hall of Fame QB, WR an dprobably 4 or 5 others. Ryan inherited crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetkid94 Posted January 31, 2009 Author Share Posted January 31, 2009 Why? Siefert inherited a Superbowl caliber team with a Hall of Fame QB, WR an dprobably 4 or 5 others. Ryan inherited crap. ryan is inheriting a talented defense, and an average offense. its not like hes inheriting the lions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indygirl4jets Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 Bookmark this thread for this time next year... I hope you are right!!! Next season should be exciting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 Why? Siefert inherited a Superbowl caliber team with a Hall of Fame QB, WR an dprobably 4 or 5 others. Ryan inherited crap. LOL. Too bad that "crap" kept the Pats from making the playoffs. Oh well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 ryan is inheriting a talented defense, and an average offense. its not like hes inheriting the lions. Ok. He has some talented players, but your Pass D was pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetkid94 Posted January 31, 2009 Author Share Posted January 31, 2009 Ok. He has some talented players, but your Pass D was pathetic. have you ever thought about the fact of the setup mangini had? dont you think playing prevent for half a game will make your pass D look bad? under the right coach you dont see rhodes, and revis making a bigger impact? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 Ok. He has some talented players, but your Pass D was pathetic. And so was the Pats' Pass D. Get serious here. The Pats secondary has sucked for quite awhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 have you ever thought about the fact of the setup mangini had? dont you think playing prevent for half a game will make your pass D look bad? under the right coach you dont see rhodes, and revis making a bigger impact? With that front 7, Revis and Rhodes are wasted. And so was the Pats' Pass D. Get serious here. The Pats secondary has sucked for quite awhile. I agree a 110%. Make that 120%. That is why the mocks saying the Patriots are taken Cushing (LBer) from USC are funny. Just about all of them have someone taken DJ Moore from Vandy right behind the Patriots selection. He goes to Vandy so he is smart. He led the SEC in picks in 2007, was among the leaders in punt returns and saw time on offense. That is everything the Patriots look for. Smart and Versatile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 Why? Siefert inherited a Superbowl caliber team with a Hall of Fame QB, WR an dprobably 4 or 5 others. Ryan inherited crap. I think he was referring to the Broncos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 With that front 7, Revis and Rhodes are wasted. I agree a 110%. Make that 120%. That is why the mocks saying the Patriots are taken Cushing (LBer) from USC are funny. Just about all of them have someone taken DJ Moore from Vandy right behind the Patriots selection. He goes to Vandy so he is smart. He led the SEC in picks in 2007, was among the leaders in punt returns and saw time on offense. That is everything the Patriots look for. Smart and Versatile. I thought the Patriots just wanted players that have thick skin. This way the can better deflect the inevitable "Cheater" criticism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragmatic Bus Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 I hope you are right!!! Next season should be exciting! "interesting" would be the proper choice here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indygirl4jets Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 "interesting" would be the proper choice here Maybe so, but I prefer exciting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 With that front 7, Revis and Rhodes are wasted. . Wrong as usual. The problem with the Jets D last year was not a lack of talent on the front 7. The problem was scheme. In the first few games, while playing aggressively, Bryan Thomas had four sacks. For some reason, Mangini's ball shriveled up and the Jets stopped attempting to put pressure on the QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodWearsAGrayHoodie Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 LOL. Too bad that "crap" kept the Pats from making the playoffs. Oh well! No, that would be the Dolphins not the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryno the Jet Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Gruden won it all his first year with Tony Dungy's Buc's. He was not a rookie head coach, but he beat his old team, the Raiders, in the Super Bowl. The Raiders were coached by none other than Jets OL coach Bill Callahan, who was a rookie head coach at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 No, that would be the Dolphins not the Jets. Actually, no. If the Patriots handle their business AT HOME at beat the Jets, the Patriots win the division. End of story. Unfortunately, the Pats' aged defense crumble again in a big spot, just like they did against the Giants in the SB and the Colts in the AFC championship game. The Pats couldn't have had a better chance to win the division than facing the Jets at home. But the Pats blew it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 With that front 7, Revis and Rhodes are wasted. The front 7 was terrible towards the end of last season, but like Klecko said - It was largely down to the vanilla schemes employed by Mangini and Sutton. Calvin Pace is a very good pass rusher, as is David Harris. Yet they spent most of their time in coverage. It was ridiculous really. Our front 7 has talent. Kris Jenkins is one of the most dominant NT's in the league. If he could sustain that throughout the season then we'll be fine. He was the best defensive player in the league up until around week 12. We need to get some depth behind him or get some better players next to him (Coleman is garbage). If we can do that it will make a HUGE difference. Gholston needs to improve obviously and if there's anyone who can make that happen it's Rex Ryan. If he can be a consistent pass rusher next season, even if it's only on 3rd down then that would be ****ing great. If not then we're doomed to another year of Bryan Thomas. Our secondary has two studs, one incredibly inconsistent safety and then a string of players who at best are still a liability on the field. Either Lowery needs to improve in a BIG way or else we bring in an upgrade. Either way it's pretty tough to judge what next years defense will be like when you're basing it on this one. There is talent there and with a defensive guru like Ryan at the helm and a defensive co-ordinator with a very similar philosophy there is no way things are going to stay the same. I have high expectations for our defense, we do need to bring some people in but I'm confident we'll have a very strong group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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