gangreenman Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 I can't believe Marquette lost to DePaul! MU is looking to be very middle-of-the-pack this year with maybe a few more upsets left in the tank. Rutgers is CLEARLY going to be the cellar dweller of the Big East. Im sure they are looking to get that sour taste out of their mouths and put themselves right back into the thick of things on the road @ #5 Syracuse this Saturday... Dangerous game for Syracuse... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 So ya gotta think that UNC is on the bubble now, right? I think it's way too early to start thinking bubble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gangreenman Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 I think it's way too early to start thinking bubble. I don't. Doe UNC have more then 1 quality win this year? (Mich. St.) And that win was back in november. Yeah, there's still a month and a half in change left in the regular season... But you gotta think time is not on their side, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 I don't. Doe UNC have more then 1 quality win this year? (Mich. St.) And that win was back in november. Yeah, there's still a month and a half in change left in the regular season... But you gotta think time is not on their side, right? Also beat OSU, those are 2 better wins than any SU has if you want to talk quality wins. The Heels have played the toughest sched in the Country and only have one bad loss(Charleston). There's alot of time left, barring a complete collapse they'll make the Tourney. If they keep playing like they are they won't make the Tourney but I can't see this keeping up much longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gangreenman Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 Also beat OSU, those are 2 better wins than any SU has if you want to talk quality wins. The Heels have played the toughest sched in the Country and only have one bad loss(Charleston). There's alot of time left, barring a complete collapse they'll make the Tourney. If they keep playing like they are they won't make the Tourney but I can't see this keeping up much longer. Well, Cuse did beat you guys pretty handily the day after you beat Ohio State (granted, no longer as much of a quality win as I wouldve liked) and we also won on the road at West Virginia last week. I agree, you guys did play a tough schedule, I can make the argument that Oakland (Mi) played just as tough of a non-con schedule, but they lost all of their games. Point is, how tough of a schedule you play is meaningless if you dont win some big games. Michigan State and Ohio State were both very good wins, in november. What have they done since to prove they belong in the tournament? That was my only point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybroome Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 Go Big Blue!! The Kentucky Wildcats are #1!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gangreenman Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 My rankings prediction: 1 - Kentucky 2 - Kansas 3 - Villanova 4- Syracuse 5 - Duke (depending on game vs Clemson tonight) 6 - Michigan State 7 - Texas 8,9,10 - Pretty much anybody's guess... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 edit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uart Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 My rankings prediction: 1 - Kentucky 2 - Kansas 3 - Villanova 4- Syracuse 5 - Duke (depending on game vs Clemson tonight) 6 - Michigan State 7 - Texas 8,9,10 - Pretty much anybody's guess... I'll buy your top-4. That's pretty much what I would expect to happen. Texas has to drop out of the top-3 now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 The rankings will be: Kentucky Kansas Nova Cuse Duke I would rank them like this: Kentucky Nova Kansas Syracuse Duke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Now, it's time to focus fully on Syracuse. Big game tomorrow night vs. the Hoyas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gangreenman Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Now the the Jets season is over, lets talk about important stuff, like how pathetic Georgetown is running their "id rather watch paint dry" princeton offense under "3 NIT losses in 5 seasons" JTIII. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gangreenman Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 LOL, just found this gem on a Cuse forum... Allen Iverson will never win an NBA title because he's a Georgetown piece of ****. He can follow in Patrick Ewing's footsteps, who cannot read this. He can follow in Dikembe Mutumbo's footsteps, who smells of garbage and rotten milk. Or he can follow in Mike Sweetney's footsteps, and end up at Burger King, where he can get a large number 2, 3 and 7, with a large Dr. Pepper. :rl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uart Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 I would rank them like this: Kentucky Nova Kansas Syracuse Duke UK has to be #1 because undefeated is undefeated. That said, they played a pretty soft OOC schedule. Their best wins are UNC (who are now going to be unranked) and UConn (who are going to be ranked again, but are a similarly inconsistent team). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Well, Cuse did beat you guys pretty handily the day after you beat Ohio State (granted, no longer as much of a quality win as I wouldve liked) and we also won on the road at West Virginia last week. I agree, you guys did play a tough schedule, I can make the argument that Oakland (Mi) played just as tough of a non-con schedule, but they lost all of their games. Point is, how tough of a schedule you play is meaningless if you dont win some big games. Michigan State and Ohio State were both very good wins, in november. What have they done since to prove they belong in the tournament? That was my only point. But they did win some games. They played 5 teams in the top 21 of the current AP poll and won 2 of them. Only one of those games was at home w/ 1 on the road and 2 at "neutral" sites that were basically road games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gangreenman Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 But they did win some games. They played 5 teams in the top 21 of the current AP poll and won 2 of them. Only one of those games was at home w/ 1 on the road and 2 at "neutral" sites that were basically road games. That is a good point that I would be willing to discuss on most days, however today my attention is focused on way more important things, like how badly Georgetown sucks. Check out the interesting flowchart here... http://hoyasuxa.com/ --See 2nd article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 That is a good point that I would be willing to discuss on most days, however today my attention is focused on way more important things, like how badly Georgetown sucks. Check out the interesting flowchart here... http://hoyasuxa.com/ --See 2nd article I love rivalries. Good luck tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 Syracuse falls down 14-0 only to destroy Georgetown by 17. Nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uart Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 Georgetown's lack of depth is going to kill them in the Big East this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gangreenman Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 Georgetown's lack of depth is going to kill them in the Big East this year. Yeah, and their inability to play against Syracuse's zone is going to hurt them, too. Anyway, we were discussing this in depth over at a cuse forum I belong too, check out this thread...http://www.cuseorange.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11143 Funny stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uart Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 South Carolina... eh? Well, that should knock UK off the top. If K-State wins on Saturday, #1 will probably fall to either Villanova or 'Cuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gangreenman Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 South Carolina... eh? Well, that should knock UK off the top. If K-State wins on Saturday, #1 will probably fall to either Villanova or 'Cuse. I know its still about 8 games out and a lot of teams in the way on both sides, but how awesome would a 1 vs 2 matchup be on gameday primetime on feb 27th to likely determine the big east regular season champion? Not to mention a possible final four preview game as well. IF that we're to happen, we'd be seeing 36k+ in the dome for sure... smothering the on campus single game attendance record (currently owned by cuse, 33,633). At this point its still not much more then a pipe dream but man, would that be something else!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 Awesome game last night. Devan Downey is legit, he was doing everything last night. Anyway, UK continues to not impress me. They would get beat by any team in the top 5 IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 I know its still about 8 games out and a lot of teams in the way on both sides, but how awesome would a 1 vs 2 matchup be on gameday primetime on feb 27th to likely determine the big east regular season champion? Not to mention a possible final four preview game as well. IF that we're to happen, we'd be seeing 36k+ in the dome for sure... smothering the on campus single game attendance record (currently owned by cuse, 33,633). At this point its still not much more then a pipe dream but man, would that be something else!! That would be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 If ND starts making it's free throws, Nova won't be undefeated in the BE much longer. Let's Go Irish! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cr726 Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 Agreed! Wright is an overrated coach, he is an incredible recruiter, but coaching is avg. If ND starts making it's free throws, Nova won't be undefeated in the BE much longer. Let's Go Irish! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gangreenman Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 Agreed! Wright is an overrated coach, he is an incredible recruiter, but coaching is avg. Umm...I didnt see anyone say that. And I think he is a very good coach as well as an unbelievable recruiter. Nova would be very wise to hang onto him for as long as possible. As a rival fan, I think both he and Jamie Dixon of Pitt have a chance to both be great-HOF coaches for a long time at their two schools. Wouldn't be surprised to see those 2 develop into a coaching rivalry similar to that of Calhoun/Boeheim in the Big East after they both retire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 Agreed! Wright is an overrated coach, he is an incredible recruiter, but coaching is avg. He's led 'Nova to multiple Elite 8s, Sweet 16, the Final Four- what more do you want out of him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uart Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 Anyway, UK continues to not impress me. They would get beat by any team in the top 5 IMO. They live and die by John Wall. When he's picking up fouls and turning the ball over, they're not so unstoppable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uart Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 Agreed! Wright is an overrated coach, he is an incredible recruiter, but coaching is avg. I used to think that too. He's a little iffy on inbounds plays (as in, he doesn't have very many of them), but now that I understand his system and have seen some of the adjustments that he has made, I'm convinced. Jay Wright is actually a really good coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 I used to think that too. He's a little iffy on inbounds plays (as in, he doesn't have very many of them), but now that I understand his system and have seen some of the adjustments that he has made, I'm convinced. Jay Wright is actually a really good coach. I remember in last year's Big East thread, around January, you were going nuts with Wright. I was talking with my dad about this and we both agreed that Wright is a top-10 coach in the country, both recruiting and actual coaching. His system is amazing. The swarming defense and always attacking mentality. That's why Nova always does well, even with their small lineups. They have had the most aggressive team in the country the past few years from what I've seen. Uart, do you think Wright is the kind of coach that would stick around at Nova for a long time? Or would he get restless after a few more years, and move on to somewhere else? I personally would love having him stick around, that would help keep the overall quality of Big East hoops great for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cr726 Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 A National Title? This year has been his best coaching year, but he hasn't won the big game. This years team like every year is all guard play and zero points in the paint. Live and die by the 3 ring a bell? He's led 'Nova to multiple Elite 8s, Sweet 16, the Final Four- what more do you want out of him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cr726 Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 He is an elite recruiter, everyone thought when Fred Hill left so would the great recruits and that has not happend. I am a huge Big East fan and I love the Big 5. Nova has always been the snobby school when it comes to the Big 5 and Wright/Rollie have not helped in that area. I will be the first in line to admit I am wrong if Nova wins a National Title. I love Scottie Reynolds and his shot selection has been vastly improved this year! I used to think that too. He's a little iffy on inbounds plays (as in, he doesn't have very many of them), but now that I understand his system and have seen some of the adjustments that he has made, I'm convinced. Jay Wright is actually a really good coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 A National Title? This year has been his best coaching year, but he hasn't won the big game. This years team like every year is all guard play and zero points in the paint. Live and die by the 3 ring a bell? I was saying literally the exact same thing last year. They made the Final Four. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 A National Title? This year has been his best coaching year, but he hasn't won the big game. This years team like every year is all guard play and zero points in the paint. Live and die by the 3 ring a bell? what year should you have won a National Title and didn't? Even in '06 when you lost as a 1 seed you lost to a better Florida team. This year is your best shot, CBB is wide open and 'Nova has one of the best teams but it's hard to win a National Title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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