Vudu Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Kevin Mawae: Players know the issues, except “guys like Cromartie” Posted by Michael David Smith on February 13, 2011, 8:46 AM EST When Jets cornerback Antonio Cromartie said last month that he thinks leaders of both the NFL and the players’ union are “a–holes,” it was taken by some as a sign that there’s disunity in the ranks of the union. Now NFL Players’ Association President Kevin Mawae is using Cromartie as an example of a player who doesn’t understand the issues in the players’ looming labor battle with the owners. In an interview with the New York Post, Mawae said most of the players are on board with what the union is trying to accomplish. Then, unprompted, Mawae took a shot at Cromartie. “I think our players understand the issues,” Mawae said. “If you have guys like Cromartie who want to pop off because they don’t know what’s going on, they haven’t taken the initiative to understand the issues. I truly believe we’re more united than ever before. But the bottom line is that “guys like Cromartie” are members of the union, too. And if some members of the union, in Mawae’s view, haven’t taken the initiative to understand the issues, it’s going to be awfully difficult for the union to maintain solidarity once those union members have been locked out. So maybe instead of ripping Cromartie publicly, Mawae should see if he can get Cromartie on board by talking to him privately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garb Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Mawae isn't even a player anymore He needs to go to Law School Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Cromartie is a functional illiterate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Kevin Mawaes outburst shows why he shouldnt be a Union leader. Battling the people you represent in the press isnt good negotiating tactics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
war ensemble Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Kevin Mawaes outburst shows why he shouldnt be a Union leader. Battling the people you represent in the press isnt good negotiating tactics. +1 Politics and negotiations is all about keeping a straight face, keeping you in the "good" side of public image. Mawae's not helping the union's case here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbro22 Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 I'm siding with Cromartie because he answers my tweets sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 +1 Politics and negotiations is all about keeping a straight face, keeping you in the "good" side of public image. Mawae's not helping the union's case here... Disagree. He had to point out that Cromartie was the idiot exception and not part of a groundswell of idiot naysayers that wants to sign the first deal that comes across the table to keeps them in Escalades and almost current with their child support payments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Cromartie has got 9 child support payments! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
war ensemble Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Disagree. He had to point out that Cromartie was the idiot exception and not part of a groundswell of idiot naysayers that wants to sign the first deal that comes across the table to keeps them in Escalades and almost current with their child support payments. Actually, he proved the opposite. By saying "guys like Cromartie", that assumes there are others like him and that he is not the exception. A public rift between union members should be ended, rather than encouraged by the union head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelticwizard Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Mawae didn't say there were many guys like Cromartie. Maybe Mawae had private dealings with Cromartie before that were not productive, so he figured he would do some public damage control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattyandthejets Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 What is Mawae's deal? first he calls out Rex saying he wouldn't like to play for him, and now he calls out cro. I think someone is bitter that jets for moving on from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Bit Special Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 So Kevin, what are the issues the players are so concerned about? Guess what? Fans hate players and owners. because of you greedy scumbags its impossible for a normal person to afford going to games anymore. Now settle this sh*t and stop depriving us of football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serphnx Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 So Kevin, what are the issues the players are so concerned about? Guess what? Fans hate players and owners. because of you greedy scumbags its impossible for a normal person to afford going to games anymore. Now settle this sh*t and stop depriving us of football. It's because the fans are such sheep they can get away with this. They will only charge what the market can absorb. If you want prices to go down, just stop paying for everything. It's just a game. I love football as much as anyone, but I can go for years without watching it. I'm certainly not going to pay for things if I can help it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Cromartie is a dumbass and Mawae is an a$$hole... this is news? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Cromartie is a dumbass and Mawae is an a$$hole... this is news? Mawae rocks .. Merelynon the suspicion that he was behind the like sn egg back there comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 This little war of words between Mawae and Cro could just be the beginning to an end for the players union and how it fairs in this CBA agreement. Theres nothing worse than a battle amongst the workers during a union contract negotiations. Watch how quickly more players stop supporting the Union. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 I'm siding with Cromartie because he answers my tweets sometimes. Maybe he thinks your one of his? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bergen Jet Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 I think that we should have Bren duke it out with DLJ in the mud to settle this Mawae - Cromartie "fued" We just have to comvince DLJ that Cro is Braylon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjets Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Kevin Mawaes outburst shows why he shouldnt be a Union leader. Battling the people you represent in the press isnt good negotiating tactics. he's a dick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Bit Special Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 It's because the fans are such sheep they can get away with this. They will only charge what the market can absorb. If you want prices to go down, just stop paying for everything. It's just a game. I love football as much as anyone, but I can go for years without watching it. I'm certainly not going to pay for things if I can help it. Thats where Im at now. Didnt attend games for the first time in nearly 20 years. Didnt miss it a bit. And if they strike? Oh well. **** em all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boozer76 Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Rule 1 of negotiation is you reign in all of those on your side and present a united front. Even if your own players don't agree, you don't let the opposition see that. It's one thing when Cro pops off his mouth. It's another when the leader throws his own guys under the bus when trying to fight a battle against the opposition. Cro spoke out in the mind set of pretty much every FAN out there, Mawae throwing him under the bus does nothing to help their own cause and everything to fuel the anger of the fans and empower the owners. It only serves to show Mawae is as fit to be the players leader as I would be, which is not at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Rule 1 of negotiation is you reign in all of those on your side and present a united front. Even if your own players don't agree, you don't let the opposition see that. It's one thing when Cro pops off his mouth. It's another when the leader throws his own guys under the bus when trying to fight a battle against the opposition. Cro spoke out in the mind set of pretty much every FAN out there, Mawae throwing him under the bus does nothing to help their own cause and everything to fuel the anger of the fans and empower the owners. It only serves to show Mawae is as fit to be the players leader as I would be, which is not at all. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelticwizard Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Not true. A union leader does not have to take everything a player says about the union. Case in point, years ago during a long baseball strike some Mets players were actually publicly saying the owners' offer was reasonable and that the union was wrong in continuing to strike. The next day the Yankees' union leader publicly called those statements by the Mets' players "gutless". A few days later the strike was settled-on the players' terms. The "reasonable" proposal by the owners was not even part of the agreement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Rule 1 of negotiation is you reign in all of those on your side and present a united front. Even if your own players don't agree, you don't let the opposition see that. It's one thing when Cro pops off his mouth. It's another when the leader throws his own guys under the bus when trying to fight a battle against the opposition. Cro spoke out in the mind set of pretty much every FAN out there, Mawae throwing him under the bus does nothing to help their own cause and everything to fuel the anger of the fans and empower the owners. It only serves to show Mawae is as fit to be the players leader as I would be, which is not at all. I'd disagree, Booz. Cro is the owner's favorite player right now and representative of the type of guy--desperate, broke, retarded-- they're counting on to break the union. I think Mawae had to go out of his way to discredit him and make an example out of him so that the next guy who starts sweating out a big Cristal bill at 1Oak doesn't start chirping in public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbro22 Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Maybe he thinks your one of his? INCREDIBLE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 lockout or no, I don't see how the Jets give Cro long term money. the dude is a chucklehead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 The bigger issue is MaWae is without a team and I doubt anyone wants him, but Cro is top free agent that many teams want. Who stands to gain and lose more? MaWae is a washed up has been being the Union leader is all hes got left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaJetsFan Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Cromartie is a functional illiterate. So is Tom Shane, but we still let him post here ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted February 14, 2011 Author Share Posted February 14, 2011 I think that we should have Bren duke it out with DLJ in the mud to settle this Mawae - Cromartie "fued" We just have to comvince DLJ that Cro is Braylon. :P :P :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelticwizard Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 The bigger issue is MaWae is without a team and I doubt anyone wants him, but Cro is top free agent that many teams want. Who stands to gain and lose more? MaWae is a washed up has been being the Union leader is all hes got left. Not important. Marvin Miller was the head of the baseball union and broke the owners' power-when such a thing was considered outrageous-and he never played baseball in his life. His successor, Donald Fehr, also led a hugely successful strike and Fehr was a nonplayer. The difference is that the baseball players hung together while the football players, during their strike, fell out of line, first one by one then a flood. Mawae is absolutely correct in publicly making it clear that if anyone deserts his fellow players and turns his back on the union, he will NOT be accepted by his fellow players once the affair is settled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Cro needs the money. If he was head of the NFLPA he would take any offer as long as he got paid. Mawae was right in calling him out as Cro has no clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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