slats Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 LOL. I thought it was obvious I was scum, slatsy? A townie should not be so interested in blindly killing a guy claiming bulletproof at this point in the game. But Sharrow seems to have more invested right at this moment. So lets lynch Sharrow today and see how that goes. If the town is so concerned about me, then ask Aemon to investigate me. I'd suggest you (or the real doc, lol!) flip a coin on your protection tonight and hope for the best. Hopefully that will force them to look elsewhere than you(?) or Aemon. I'm going to come up town in that investigation, and then you can all worry about who's the GF between me, Pac, and Dan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharrow Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 Very well. Seeing as I already feel like scum know, yes, I am the doc. I self-protected until last night, when I protected Aemon to make sure we'd get the results. I didn't really like being forced to protect someone, but even if I hadn't protected him I wouldn't have saved either of our losses from last night so it really doesn't matter. The night JiF died, I couldn't decide how I felt on him, with the half-reveal. I ended up self-protecting over protecting him, though it didn't matter as I was roleblocked. Honestly thought I was dead when I got the PM. As for the first night with Aemon, I tried to make it appear that I completely bought in to Aemon as cop. I figured a small line might make scum think I'd throw protection his way, especially when I argued with slats that he was completely cleared then. Slats putting out there that Aemon wasn't for sure the cop seemed like bait to me, honestly, but that would mean he's scum, not the SK. That has a lot to do with why my first vote today went on him, and the more slats talks the more confident I feel. That's why I didn't want to reveal. I'm the doc, AVM is lying. Which is also why I was comfortable letting Aemon not release his results last night, because I was protecting him. unvote vote AVM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 That's why I didn't want to reveal. I'm the doc, AVM is lying. Which is also why I was comfortable letting Aemon not release his results last night, because I was protecting him. unvote vote AVM Haha! Who didn't see that coming? Now we need JC's reveal. unvote vote: JC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan. Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 Posting from phone ... havent read every post word for word but agree that there's no difference between mass revealing now and running up train after train to force reveals. Not seeing the logic in going after Slats at the moment with the position we're in. Have been feeling better about AVM than Sharrow or JC this game. Sharrow seems the most off his game right now. Think he would typically see the logic in keeping Slats around a bit longer. Not feeling great about his responses to Slats so far. Meanwhile JC has been floating by, contributing much more early on and then sitting back while the pool narrows down. With family right now ... want to have a chance to read more carefully before voting but will be back in a few hours! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan. Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 Whoa lots happened while Dan was typing that ... Definitely leaning towards AVM telling the truth over Sharrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 That's why I didn't want to reveal. I'm the doc, AVM is lying. Which is also why I was comfortable letting Aemon not release his results last night, because I was protecting him. unvote vote AVM The one game I DON'T pressure you all game, and you're scum again? Well done, Sharrow. This was the problem with calling for a mass reveal. Sharrow was, under no circumstance, revealing first. I probably should have tried to wait, but meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 Obviously, I want to kill Sharrow right now, but from a townie standpoint -- think about this. I said a little bit ago that the town can't afford to be wrong with the doc if there are 3 enemies(2 scum, 1 SK) the town is facing and not just 2 (which seems very obvious). If we can get a train going on Sharrow, I'm going to jump on -- obviously he's confirmed scum/SK (to me only), now. However, if I were scum, I'd do the exact same thing. Chance to take out the doc and take the town out of the game, essentially. The fact that Sharrow doesn't want to follow along to JC says a lot, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan. Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 The one game I DON'T pressure you all game, and you're scum again? Well done, Sharrow. This was the problem with calling for a mass reveal. Sharrow was, under no circumstance, revealing first. I probably should have tried to wait, but meh. Revealing was pretty much inevitable at this point ... believing your reveal more than Sharrow's anyway. let's see what Jetscode the SK comes up with, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
war ensemble Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 That's why I didn't want to reveal. I'm the doc, AVM is lying. Which is also why I was comfortable letting Aemon not release his results last night, because I was protecting him. unvote vote AVM If you're the doc, who did you protect each night? Were you ever targeted or role-blocked, etc.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharrow Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 The one game I DON'T pressure you all game, and you're scum again? Well done, Sharrow. This was the problem with calling for a mass reveal. Sharrow was, under no circumstance, revealing first. I probably should have tried to wait, but meh. If I was revealing as doc, why would I wait? The only reason to wait as scum would be to avoid a duplicate reveal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharrow Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 Posting from phone ... havent read every post word for word but agree that there's no difference between mass revealing now and running up train after train to force reveals. Not seeing the logic in going after Slats at the moment with the position we're in. Have been feeling better about AVM than Sharrow or JC this game. Sharrow seems the most off his game right now. Think he would typically see the logic in keeping Slats around a bit longer. Not feeling great about his responses to Slats so far. Meanwhile JC has been floating by, contributing much more early on and then sitting back while the pool narrows down. With family right now ... want to have a chance to read more carefully before voting but will be back in a few hours! Its only beneficial to keep slats around if you believe his reveal; which I don't. On top of that he's been begging to be investigated. With no way to confirm his role, it leads me to believe he's probably the Godfather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
war ensemble Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 The fact that Sharrow doesn't want to follow along to JC says a lot, IMO. What does this mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 If I was revealing as doc, why would I wait? The only reason to wait as scum would be to avoid a duplicate reveal. You're asking this to the guy who revealed first? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharrow Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 Obviously, I want to kill Sharrow right now, but from a townie standpoint -- think about this. I said a little bit ago that the town can't afford to be wrong with the doc if there are 3 enemies(2 scum, 1 SK) the town is facing and not just 2 (which seems very obvious). If we can get a train going on Sharrow, I'm going to jump on -- obviously he's confirmed scum/SK (to me only), now. However, if I were scum, I'd do the exact same thing. Chance to take out the doc and take the town out of the game, essentially. The fact that Sharrow doesn't want to follow along to JC says a lot, IMO. Where did I say I didn't want to follow along to JC? He can't afford not to reveal right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
war ensemble Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 Its only beneficial to keep slats around if you believe his reveal; which I don't. On top of that he's been begging to be investigated. With no way to confirm his role, it leads me to believe he's probably the Godfather. I've been getting that vibe, too. I think he's been trying to balance the obviousness of that by saying that one of him, dan or pac would be godfather. I want you to clarify your reveal and want to wait for Jetcode's reveal before voting anyone... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan. Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 Obviously, I want to kill Sharrow right now, but from a townie standpoint -- think about this. I said a little bit ago that the town can't afford to be wrong with the doc if there are 3 enemies(2 scum, 1 SK) the town is facing and not just 2 (which seems very obvious). If we can get a train going on Sharrow, I'm going to jump on -- obviously he's confirmed scum/SK (to me only), now. However, if I were scum, I'd do the exact same thing. Chance to take out the doc and take the town out of the game, essentially. The fact that Sharrow doesn't want to follow along to JC says a lot, IMO. Yeah, Sharrow is usually more careful and thorough than this. Maybe he's the SK working without benefit of teammates' input, hehe. Btw if you're lying you have played excellently this game. Need to wait to see what JC says ... Dan is being so rude on her phone right now. Be back later this afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharrow Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 If you're the doc, who did you protect each night? Were you ever targeted or role-blocked, etc.? Myself, and then Aemon the past two nights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharrow Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 Yeah, Sharrow is usually more careful and thorough than this. Maybe he's the SK working without benefit of teammates' input, hehe. Btw if you're lying you have played excellently this game. Need to wait to see what JC says ... Dan is being so rude on her phone right now. Be back later this afternoon. There's no need for me to be careful. And I've been plenty thorough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
war ensemble Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 The pretty damn clearly confirmed: 1. Song of Ice and Fire - other half of mason team, confirmed by SMC's death 19. war ensemble - uncountered victim of scum daytime attack, limited bulletproof The uncountered cop and friends: 18. Aemon Kristen - uncountered cop 5. Dan X - PR, cleared by cop 8. Pac2566 - PR, cleared by cop I get my own category: 13. slats - claimed same role as WE in D1, unconfirmed The complete unknowns: 4. AVM 11. Jetscode1 16. Sharrow Going back to this list...we're pretty much ****ed if we lynch the wrong person, regardless of whether Slats is really a one-time bulletproof or we lynch the doc. So I don't think anything related to that is a good defense for not choosing a certain person... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharrow Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 Also notice that AVM said he protected himself until last night. If he was really the doc, then he would have protected Aemon the last 2 nights, because he revealed before the Crusher lynch. Now who isn't being thorough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 What does this mean? Slats showed our situation if there are 2 scum and 1 SK left. A mislynch today would mean (without a succesful doc protection, or SK/scum targeting the same player, or going after someone thats BP) tomorrow we wake up 2 town - 2 scum - 1 SK. IF you have two doc claims, and the wrong one is lynched, obviously you know who to lynch the next day but you have 0 protection against NK's with the doc gone. So you're either 2-1-1, or 2-2 (2-2 would mean game over). In other words, you lynch the doc today and the game is over for the town barring something rather unforeseen, or if it's 2-1-1 the SK NK's scum or scum NK the SK. This really makes me think JC is the SK, and scum knows it. They need him tonight, and even with a confirmed scum in Sharrow, it's better to get rid of the extra NK from the SK. A townie knows this, and especially if he thinks I'm the GF it makes more sense to go after JC right now. With that said, votes go on Sharrow and I'll follow -- but I'd REALLY rather take out JC. He dropped that convenient vote on Doggin as well, and truth be told I find it hard to believe both JT and JC, as scum, would have done that so close together as low activity players. JC was really active as the cop/scum last game -- now he's flying under the radar. Why? Third party. He has to survive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 Nevermind, he said he thinks slats is the GF. My mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 And I already told you why I did what I did. I was already known as doc by scum, as JVoR RB'd me, and I've gotta feel pretty confident that JT/CTM investigated me as well. I felt VERY confident that if they felt they could take me out, they would (if they thought I was doc). It was the obvious play, IF I BELIEVED AEMON, to protect him. By throwing out there that he was for sure town, it became obvious to not take a shot at him as either the SK or scum. I have always played extremely straight forward, and felt I could use that to my advantage by switching it up, throwing the protect on me, and maybe saving us a NK. For all I know, they took a shot at slats, or both the SK and scum went after I28. After JiF and JVoR died, I even thought maybe I was targeted early on and that'd give them even more reason to believe I was doc. However, the longer I've thought about it, it's just as likely that, if slats is town, they targeted him, or were RB'd by JiF, or targeted the same guy as the SK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
war ensemble Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 Nevermind, he said he thinks slats is the GF. My mistake. Yeah...why didn't you protect Aemon the night after he revealed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
war ensemble Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 After JiF and JVoR died, I even thought maybe I was targeted early on and that'd give them even more reason to believe I was doc. However, the longer I've thought about it, it's just as likely that, if slats is town, they targeted him, or were RB'd by JiF, or targeted the same guy as the SK. If Slats has the same role as me, he would know when he was attacked and we would also get a failed kill scene. Someone was either role blocked or they targeted the same person. Also, disregard the post before this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 If Slats has the same role as me, he would know when he was attacked and we would also get a failed kill scene. Someone was either role blocked or they targeted the same person. Also, disregard the post before this one. So more than likely, I was targeted that 2 nights ago. Keep in mind I've played with JVoR and Vic a couple times now as scum (actually never been scum when Vic wasn't) -- so once they were confirmed but dead, I still know how they'd be playing, and I felt REALLY good they'd take a shot at me if they thought I'd protect Aemon. About as close to 100% as can be. If they still took a shot at him and essentially called my bluff, then I'd tip my hat to them and shoulder the loss for the town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 Aemon -- your thoughts? And just for the record, I'm leaving to drive home in a bit here so I won't be checking back in until this evening sometime, and then I may disappear again tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 Aemon -- your thoughts? And just for the record, I'm leaving to drive home in a bit here so I won't be checking back in until this evening sometime, and then I may disappear again tonight Why not put a vote on JC now, then? I'm waiting on his reveal to decide to keep it there or move somewhere else. And yeah, I'd like to hear from Aemon, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 Why not put a vote on JC now, then? I'm waiting on his reveal to decide to keep it there or move somewhere else. And yeah, I'd like to hear from Aemon, too. It is, I switched it last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aemon Kristen Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 I've felt that Slats play has not been town and I have voiced those thoughts before. With two people claiming Doc, we cannot lynch either of them. To me that leaves us with JC and Slats as viable lynches today. Slats has claimed bullet proof, so it would be unwise to lynch him today. That leaves me with only 1 option... UNVOTE VOTE JC The information from his lynch should help us in determining tomorrow's lynch as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetscode1 Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 Did I call you scummy earlier in the game? That was the monkey, friend. You've become "less confident" after two nights of two NK's. Now you're completely ignoring the idea somehow, saying there are two scum is the three of us, ones the doc, then good game. Earlier in the game you seemed confident there were 6 players the town had to deal with. Now you're not so sure? Less confident...Slats looks more paranoid... @ Slats...you sure you didn't smoke the weed you mentioned to I-28? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetscode1 Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 Lol, Slats. I'm town. I was suspicious of JC for the same reasons I didn't like JT, because of his timing jumping on Doggin. He's also really flown under the radar this game. And to answer your earlier question, yes, Sharrow is obviously on the list too. Fact is there isn't much to go off of on either one, and jumping on the Doggin train is the best I've got. We'll see where this goes. Unvote, Vote: Jetscode Wow...really...not sure what to make of it...you questioning the timing of my Doggin vote...I didn't favor testing him...or lynching him until it was that or let it go randon...if you noticed: I-28, me, and SMC all posted at 10:14...are you suggesting we all coordinated our votes...three townies...not likely... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetscode1 Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 Don't be stupid, you moron. Let Aemon investigate me, then the town can worry about about whether you, me, or Dan is the GF (if there is one) tomorrow, because that investigation will come up town on me. Let's have AVM, Sharrow, and JC reveal, and lynch the scummiest one. 2/3 of them are scum. My midnight shift is almost over. I'm going home and going to bed. See you around lunchtime. Hopefully someone puts together an actual case before you do the wrong thing and lynch me. Lol! You begging for the investigation implies you could be the GF...just as likely as Pac or Dan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetscode1 Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 So we're finally playing again? Anyway, after going through Vic's posts, I didn't get much out of it that's still relevant, but two posts stood out to me. Could be distancing or could be him casting doubt on her character since most people thought she was the Rock at the time, which would be a good guy. For now, it makes me feel a little better about her paired with the innocent investigation. Bretts train at it's peak was brett (6) - war ensemble, Jets Things, doggin, JiF, slats, SMC Maybe he was just protecting JT, but he tried to bus him on day 2, could have been protect Slats too, imo. Its definitely at least 1 of AVM, JC, Slats, and me. I also think that includes an SK. Out of the 2nd night kills, the JVOR kill made sense, but both SMC and JF80 were confirmed townies, and there's no reason a vig would have shot either, imo. There are some other ideas I have, but they're far fetched (WE or Pac as SK with 1 time vest or PR, Dan as Godfather faking PR) but those can wait until after we take care of the investigated players. I'm going to vote:slats Looking back on the Vic/JT bus attempt after seeing the Brett train thing, two of his posts after Vic revealed, but before I28 countered him seem scummy in retrospect. Trying to set up I28 after JT flipped scum, and protect Vic from the next lynch at the same time. Also, now that we know they were going all out to bus JT to make Vic look innocent, I'm guessing that they had more than 2 players on his train before I28 countered. Here is what it looked like after Vic's reveal, but before I28 countered him. Jets Things (6) - Vic, AVM, Dan, Slats, Crusher, JVOR Also looking back, I doubt he's bulletproof. Revealing that just to back up War when neither of them had any real pressure on them is strange. A townie with a 1-time vest keeps it secret hoping to get attacked at night. 1. No...doubt there is an SK...more likely an overactive vig. 2. I'm beginning to think the bulletproof...was BS...as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetscode1 Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 Haha! I hope the townies are taking notice how easily the votes are coming towards the guy claiming bulletproof! The problem is most do not believe your bulletproof... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.