Integrity28 Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 The Broncos pulled Kyle Orton and made Tim Tebow their starting QB over their bye week. After a game or two, they realized they needed to install a totally different offense, so in between regular game weeks - they did just that. We just lost to a green QB, who can't throw, and who plays on a team that had its offense installed 2-3 weeks ago. Now here we sit with our 3rd year blue-chip QB, struggling in the same offense that Pennington and Favre struggled in. With fans telling me for the past 5 years that "we can't fire an offensive coodinator mid-season, because it takes too long to install an new offense". Really? We just lost to a team that did just that. They installed a completely new offense mid-season. We have no option but to roll with Sanchez... however, I'm tired of watching this coaching staff do nothing to help him improved. I could understand it if he wasn't committed, but the kid is a student of the game. We know that. He isn't being groomed at all. He makes mistakes, he is told "make less mistakes" but it appears he still doesn't have someone explaining to him the sequence leading up to these mistakes, and I say this because he keeps making the same mistakes. Over, and over, and over. So, what I'd like to see happen is we relieve Schottenheimer of his role with this team. We promote an OC from within, and let that person use the next 10 days to install a new offense. 10 days. It should be MORE than enough time to have our offense in position to do at least more than what Schotty has gotten out of them this season. 10 days. If you can't fix it, you have to replace it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJets90 Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Strip play calling duties from sh*tty and give them to Callahan tomorrow morning. Let him open things up, maybe let Sanchez try a pass deeper than 7 yards with more than 3 minutes left in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 LETS GO RANGERS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 We have no option but to roll with Sanchez... however, I'm tired of watching this coaching staff do nothing to help him improved. I could understand it if he wasn't committed, but the kid is a student of the game. We know that. He isn't being groomed at all. He makes mistakes, he is told "make less mistakes" but it appears he still doesn't have someone explaining to him the sequence leading up to these mistakes, and I say this because he keeps making the same mistakes. Over, and over, and over. So he's a student of the game, but the mistakes aren't his fault because no one's sufficiently explaining them to him? Enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 We can beg until we're blue in the face, Rex isnt firing Shotty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted November 18, 2011 Author Share Posted November 18, 2011 So he's a student of the game, but the mistakes aren't his fault because no one's sufficiently explaining them to him? Enough. You can be the most diligent and studious kid in the world, but if you don't have a proper mentor to guide your studies, you aren't going to effectively "learn" anything that can be applied to the task at hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted November 18, 2011 Author Share Posted November 18, 2011 We can beg until we're blue in the face, Rex isnt firing Shotty Not Rex's job to fire him... but I do agree. Schotty's got nake pics of somebody... perhaps Mike T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoping4ASuperBowl Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain_the_foe Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 You can be the most diligent and studious kid in the world, but if you don't have a proper mentor to guide your studies, you aren't going to effectively "learn" anything that can be applied to the task at hand. Dude, you're making sense. That doesnt compute with everyone. Schotty is the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 You can be the most diligent and studious kid in the world, but if you don't have a proper mentor to guide your studies, you aren't going to effectively "learn" anything that can be applied to the task at hand. He needs a mentor? Give me a ******* break. In addition to Schottenheimer, he has Brunell hand picked to be his mentor and Cavanaugh who Rex brought in as QB coach. I'm sure nobody is keeping Callahan from "mentoring" him either. If anything he needs less mentors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyHector Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 You can be the most diligent and studious kid in the world, but if you don't have a proper mentor to guide your studies, you aren't going to effectively "learn" anything that can be applied to the task at hand. What a complete crock of sh*t. You sound like one of the morons at work who want to be spoonfed every last bit of information, when the reality is that they're just not any good at their job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharrow Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 He needs a mentor? Give me a ******* break. In addition to Schottenheimer, he has Brunell hand picked to be his mentor and Cavanaugh who Rex brought in as QB coach. I'm sure nobody is keeping Callahan from "mentoring" him either. If anything he needs less mentors. You can only learn so much from people. I'm sure there are coaches out there who can teach him different things that these guys haven't or can't. He's obviously learned as much as he can from the people coaching him now. If we're sticking with him, it's time to bring in some new perspectives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkiss24 Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Sean Payton and Charlie Weis each had playcalling duties stripped. They are far better coaches than Schitty. Lets go, strip him, he cant call a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 What a complete crock of sh*t. You sound like one of the morons at work who want to be spoonfed every last bit of information, when the reality is that they're just not any good at their job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Makes sense. But it is not happening. I get a feeling Rex is playing the Herm game. Fire the co-ordinator at the end of the season and get a fee pass for failure and get to coach another season! Rex realizes he does not have enough talent on the receiving corps and his top 2 runningbacks are banged up. So making a chnage now does not have a huge probability of success. So he will go with Schotty and fire him at the end of the season. Upgrade this offense during the off season and then come out looking like a genius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 rex doesnt need a free pass, the guy literally made us a good team, with an identity, fire shotty now, this guy is ******* horrible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted November 18, 2011 Author Share Posted November 18, 2011 He needs a mentor? Give me a ******* break. In addition to Schottenheimer, he has Brunell hand picked to be his mentor and Cavanaugh who Rex brought in as QB coach. I'm sure nobody is keeping Callahan from "mentoring" him either. If anything he needs less mentors. You might be right. What a complete crock of sh*t. You sound like one of the morons at work who want to be spoonfed every last bit of information, when the reality is that they're just not any good at their job. Well, that's hardly the case. I'm probably just making excuses because I know that if Sanchez doesn't matriculate into a good NFL QB, this franchise is doing take anothe 12-15 years to find another window where they "might" be considered a contender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted November 18, 2011 Author Share Posted November 18, 2011 You can only learn so much from people. I'm sure there are coaches out there who can teach him different things that these guys haven't or can't. He's obviously learned as much as he can from the people coaching him now. If we're sticking with him, it's time to bring in some new perspectives. This. All I'm thinking is that Sanchez needs someone who can get through to him. This group of coaches can't. It's not as through Sanchez has no talent and no willingness to improve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Not Rex's job to fire him... but I do agree. Schotty's got nake pics of somebody... perhaps Mike T I'm sure he has them of Rex's wife, then again, so does most of the internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyHector Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Well, that's hardly the case. Obviously, I didn't mean you, because how the hell would I know if you're any good at your job... I meant the excuses you were making on Sanchez's behalf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted November 18, 2011 Author Share Posted November 18, 2011 Obviously, I didn't mean you, because how the hell would I know if you're any good at your job... I meant the excuses you were making on Sanchez's behalf. Well you did say "you sound like one of the morons at work..." So, I took it as such. Either way, not important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 You can be the most diligent and studious kid in the world, but if you don't have a proper mentor to guide your studies, you aren't going to effectively "learn" anything that can be applied to the task at hand. There's a point in everyone's life/career when you have to do things for yourself, take matters into your own hands, and hold yourself accountable for your actions. I was the first person in my family to graduate from college...I never had a mentor. I took it upon myself to figure it out and make it happen while working 40/hrs a week to pay my way through school because my parents were broke. This worthless pos has had mentors since he was Qb in Pop Warner. In college he had what...Carroll, Chow and Sarkisian all on the same team? Please, he's a mental midget and he is absolutely horrible at Qb'ing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boozer76 Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 An NFL offense is not like Madden, where you pick a play that all WR's are predicated on running one route based off the playcall. The playcall entails the formation, blocking assignment,. whether it's a pass or run, and each individual route run by the receivers. We don't need revamp the language of the offense, we just need a new playcaller that can send these WR's out on more sensible and diverse routes. On the pick 6, if you noticed there was a replay where you could see every other receiver, and they all ran the same exact route. None of these routes are designed off each other to get a man open or 1 on 1, they're all just individuals on the field running routes to specific spots on the field, sometimes in instances where two receivers end up in pretty much the same spot. You never see these guys running routes in conjunction with each other, where a crossing route comes underneath a go route to draw the safety into a decision to cover one or the other and leave a receiver 1 on 1. It's just bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Just to be clear, it's now 9 days and everyone who was employed by the NY Jets yesterday is still employed by them today. I have no idea why, but that's the current situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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