villain_the_foe Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 16. New York Jets: Riley Reiff, OT, Iowa. The team has reportedly tried to trade starting right tackle Wayne Hunter in the past. Reiff could fill in at that spot right away if Rex Ryan finally finds a taker before, during or after the draft. If Barron isnt available I would have no problem with the pick. We do need a RT, however, I would like to trade down if we dont get Barron. 47. Jets: Alshon Jeffery, WR, South Carolina. Jeffery's size and length nicely complement the speed of Santonio Holmes. I think this could be 1 of the 2 best picks in the draft. Jeffery is a BIG target for Sanchez, but more important is his hands. Many complain about Sanchez accuracy, well Jeffery seems to be able to catch everything, but more importantly its the catches away from his body that really impressed me when looking at video. This guy I believe is a good enough reason to pass on Floyd in the 1st round. He makes every difficult catch look effortless, and though he wont blow the top off defenses he's a big target with enough speed and will certainly come in handy in the redzone area. Very Brandon Marshall-esque the way he catches the ball away from his body. I want this guy, but to be fair I have to mention that some analyst view Jeffery as a potential draft bust given his lack of consistent hard work, concentration and very average route running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain_the_foe Posted April 25, 2012 Author Share Posted April 25, 2012 77. Jets: Bruce Irvin, OLB/DE, West Virginia. Pass-rush specialist who gets his shot as a 3-4 linebacker after being miscast as a DE at West Virginia. Questionable to me. Granted, he looks good as a pass rusher, however, though other vids I've seen him get stood up and he couldnt shed the block. Another thing is I really dont like the transition from DE 4-3 to OLB 3-4, hence some of my troubles with the 3-4. It seems rather difficult to find a LB with the right size to speed to coverage ratio. I think this kid could be a very good DE in the 4-3 but I have no clue about his coverage skills which he will need to have playing OLB. We already have OLB that can rush but cant cover in Aaron Maybin, we dont need another one. I could be wrong here given that the NFL thinks that his DE position was a miscast. 154. Jets: Ronald Leary, OG, Memphis Depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain_the_foe Posted April 25, 2012 Author Share Posted April 25, 2012 187. Jets: Brandon Marshall, LB, Nevada http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riZtFfyeni0 Now this is the 2nd pick that I think will work greatly in the favor of the Jets. It seems like Marshall has dealt with injury in his college career but he broke out last year when finally healthy. This guy has speed, he has long arms, sheds blocks consistently, uses those long arms to create space between him and the blocker so he can see the ball handler and decide which way he will shed. He always seems to take a good position on the field, he's very good in coverage. This guy is a well rounded LB, and maybe im jumping out the window alittle here but I havent seen a more impressive highlight vid from any other LB. This kid seems to be the real deal just at a small school. I do not believe this kid will be on the board in the 6th round. We need to get him in the 4th or 5th. If we passed on Bruce Irwin and got this kid instead I'd be content with that. 202. Jets: Coryell Judie, CB, Texas A&M Depth, though im not really impressed. Good on special teams though. Pretty good returner from other vids I saw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain_the_foe Posted April 25, 2012 Author Share Posted April 25, 2012 203. Jets: Evan Rodriguez, FB/TE, Temple No. 232. Jets: Jerron McMillian, SS, Maine This is why we need to trade back in the draft if we dont get Barron. We cannot wait until the 7th to get a Safety. Trade back and pick one up in the 2nd or 3rd round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Alshon Jeffrey is fat. I'd rather take a different WR. Really any different receiver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain_the_foe Posted April 25, 2012 Author Share Posted April 25, 2012 Alshon Jeffrey is fat. I'd rather take a different WR. Really any different receiver. Because he's "fat"? does he have any fat pictures on google or something? yeah he lost like 15 pounds for the combine but that lets me know that if he can lose it then he can keep it off, specially when dealing on the pro level. You seem not to like Jeffery outside of those 15 pounds. Any receiver, really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Because he's "fat"? does he have any fat pictures on google or something? yeah he lost like 15 pounds for the combine but that lets me know that if he can lose it then he can keep it off, specially when dealing on the pro level. You seem not to like Jeffery outside of those 15 pounds. Any receiver, really? Well not ANY receiver. I don't want Hill either. I think if we want an impact WR out of this draft, then you take Floyd, but I don't see that happening and I don't see a receiver happening before round 4 either. That's not how these Jets operate. It'll be defense and O-Line and maybe a running back. And yes, he is fat. The fact he had to lose 15 pounds between the season and the combine tells me he is pretty lazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Sign me up. Jeffrey killed Alabama, didn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Alshon Jeffrey is fat. I'd rather take a different WR. Really any different receiver. Does he look like a D lineman? Strategies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor99 Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Alshon Jeffrey is fat. I'd rather take a different WR. Really any different receiver. Remember when people thought Hakeem Nicks was fat? Good times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Because he's "fat"? does he have any fat pictures on google or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 That picture makes me laugh out loud....what a fattie for wideout.....lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Alshon Jeffrey is fat. I'd rather take a different WR. Really any different receiver. Was fat...what he is is arguably the most talented WR in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Sign me up. Jeffrey killed Alabama, didn't he? Killed pretty much everyone, including Alabama. Had he done the offseason the ideal way he'd be the only guy in this drsft you can compare to other elite WR prospects...Well, him and Blackmon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain_the_foe Posted April 25, 2012 Author Share Posted April 25, 2012 He's such a fat a$$. lol. I'd still draft him though. He's he was able to do damage like that while being the fattest guy outside of the linemen on the field this kid would be scary with an NFL body. Thor mentioned Hakeem Nicks and how people thought he was fat, now you see him winning SB's and doing "Got Milk" commercials. For the record, you did find some fat picks on google though lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain_the_foe Posted April 25, 2012 Author Share Posted April 25, 2012 Was fat...what he is is arguably the most talented WR in the draft. I believe ^. From what I see his fatness has nothing to do with the talent he's displaying. He has tremendous skill, and the bust rumors could be true, but it certainly wont be because he doesnt have the skillset. This is different from Gholston, which was just a freak of nature in college but obviously didnt have the skillset to make it in the pros. You can see that this guy is a pure wide receiver. And he has a natrually powerful body in order for him to be able to play at such a level with such fat. Let him develop an NFL body and I believe in 2-3 years we will outshine Blackman and Floyd in the long run. This guy hands are phenomenal and when he battles CB's for position, CB's lose. This is the type of WR we need and I think that if Barron isnt available, which with the cowboys I dont think he will be we need to trade down to the bottom of the 1st or very high 2nd round and pick this guy up. We can develop him while picking up Braylon on the cheap. Having braylon blow off the top having Holmes run tight routes and Jeffery abusing 3nd string CB's will be serious. And dont forget Kerley. On paper thats a good core of wr's. More importantly we will already have two WR's that can grow with Sanchez in Jeffery and Kerley. Lastly, if his work ethic is an issue then what better person to have him around than Sparano? From what I hear he gets the best out of all his players and his players loved him for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain_the_foe Posted April 25, 2012 Author Share Posted April 25, 2012 Whats do you guys think of this LB from Nevada Brandon Marshall. I really like what I see from this guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 That one SI pictorial opened the door for Mike Williams comps....Ignore that Williams didn't play football at all the year he was drafted. Like him better than Floyd...probably significantly more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Was fat...what he is is arguably the most talented WR in the draft. There isnt an argument when he's fat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 There isnt an argument when he's fat. Good thing he' got down to 215 then when it was time to stop being a stud for free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Good thing he' got down to 215 then when it was time to stop being a stud for free. He's going to blow up like Mike Williams, leave the NFL and try to comeback as TE. Fatty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanBe_Tweetin Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Alshon Jeffery at his pro day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorge o8 Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 77. Jets: Bruce Irvin, OLB/DE, West Virginia. Pass-rush specialist who gets his shot as a 3-4 linebacker after being miscast as a DE at West Virginia. Questionable to me. Granted, he looks good as a pass rusher, however, though other vids I've seen him get stood up and he couldnt shed the block. Another thing is I really dont like the transition from DE 4-3 to OLB 3-4, hence some of my troubles with the 3-4. It seems rather difficult to find a LB with the right size to speed to coverage ratio. I think this kid could be a very good DE in the 4-3 but I have no clue about his coverage skills which he will need to have playing OLB. We already have OLB that can rush but cant cover in Aaron Maybin, we dont need another one. I could be wrong here given that the NFL thinks that his DE position was a miscast. i think he need to get a bit more muscle but a great pick in the 3rd love to see him in green and white mean fast and can get to the qb 154. Jets: Ronald Leary, OG, Memphis Depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain_the_foe Posted April 26, 2012 Author Share Posted April 26, 2012 Alshon Jeffery at his pro day Which shows his discipline to get right for the pro level. If the beat up on him was his weight then the Jets would be stupid to pass on this dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 I like the Bruce Irvin pick. The kid has a lightening-fast get off. A really impressive one at that. At first I disliked the fact that he only has one move, the out-side rush. But...he's so good at it, that he either 1: beats his man, or 2: gets his OT to follow him out of the pocket. I think having Thomas back (with Pace) means that we can stop the run on the first two downs....Then put in our 3rd-down blitz package featuring Maybin and this kid...and really be on to something. Worst Case: Maybin and Irvin blitzing takes both OTs out of the pocket. That leaves 3OL to block our 3DL all of whom would command a double team anyway. Toss in a blitzing safety, and BOOM...3 & out recipe for days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain_the_foe Posted April 26, 2012 Author Share Posted April 26, 2012 I like the Bruce Irvin pick. The kid has a lightening-fast get off. A really impressive one at that. At first I disliked the fact that he only has one move, the out-side rush. But...he's so good at it, that he either 1: beats his man, or 2: gets his OT to follow him out of the pocket. I think having Thomas back (with Pace) means that we can stop the run on the first two downs....Then put in our 3rd-down blitz package featuring Maybin and this kid...and really be on to something. Worst Case: Maybin and Irvin blitzing takes both OTs out of the pocket. That leaves 3OL to block our 3DL all of whom would command a double team anyway. Toss in a blitzing safety, and BOOM...3 & out recipe for days. Thats true. I still question his coverage game and his ability against the run. That will be great for a 4-3 defense. But in a 3-4 he needs to be able to hold a block, if he's on the line, which he looks too small to be on the line in a 3-4. So that leaves him an OLB spot which requires more than speed. We have maybin for that. We need a OLB that can cover a potential receiver and get alot of tackles for losses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Thats true. I still question his coverage game and his ability against the run. That will be great for a 4-3 defense. But in a 3-4 he needs to be able to hold a block, if he's on the line, which he looks too small to be on the line in a 3-4. So that leaves him an OLB spot which requires more than speed. We have maybin for that. We need a OLB that can cover a potential receiver and get alot of tackles for losses. no no no.... you're suggesting a 3-down linebacker. We're not getting "him" in the third round. Irvin would simply be a blitzing backer. Him and Maybin come in on third down. The other team knows whats coming...ideally it's third and long...and we simply challenge opposing teams to complete passes with a blitzing duo of Maybin and Irvin. Good luck completing a slant or screen in under 3 seconds, with Harris/Scott/Landry manning the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain_the_foe Posted April 26, 2012 Author Share Posted April 26, 2012 no no no.... you're suggesting a 3-down linebacker. We're not getting "him" in the third round. Irvin would simply be a blitzing backer. Him and Maybin come in on third down. The other team knows whats coming...ideally it's third and long...and we simply challenge opposing teams to complete passes with a blitzing duo of Maybin and Irvin. Good luck completing a slant or screen in under 3 seconds, with Harris/Scott/Landry manning the middle. Good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 77. Jets: Bruce Irvin, OLB/DE, West Virginia. Pass-rush specialist who gets his shot as a 3-4 linebacker after being miscast as a DE at West Virginia. Questionable to me. Granted, he looks good as a pass rusher, however, though other vids I've seen him get stood up and he couldnt shed the block. Another thing is I really dont like the transition from DE 4-3 to OLB 3-4, hence some of my troubles with the 3-4. It seems rather difficult to find a LB with the right size to speed to coverage ratio. I think this kid could be a very good DE in the 4-3 but I have no clue about his coverage skills which he will need to have playing OLB. We already have OLB that can rush but cant cover in Aaron Maybin, we dont need another one. I could be wrong here given that the NFL thinks that his DE position was a miscast. 154. Jets: Ronald Leary, OG, Memphis Depth. test Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Good point. test Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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