Smashmouth Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 AVM visited Leelou. Willing to lynch him or Dan. Also Ape for aesthetic reasons obviously. Oh and my vest is gone. Vote: Dan well if you got a guilty on AVM then the vote is AVM not DAN since that vetts you right ?? Unless your full of sh*t and AVM will put you down tonight or tomorrow. Unvote Vote AVM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 AVM visited Leelou. Willing to lynch him or Dan. Also Ape for aesthetic reasons obviously. Oh and my vest is gone. Vote: Dan Cool. So if we lynch you, you flip town, then we have both scum identified. Game over, town wins as long as we don't leave JVOR alive until the end... right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWWombat Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 well if you got a guilty on AVM then the vote is AVM not DAN since that vetts you right ?? Unless your full of sh*t and AVM will put you down tonight or tomorrow. Unvote Vote AVM Both are scum. I will vote either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Both are scum. I will vote either. yeah thats nice but we need to go with your direct investigation not guesses. If AVM is scum your still not 100 % vetted BUT if AVM is town you die for sure tomorrow. The only way i can see you pushing a DAN lynch now is to get rid of our watcher and thats not happening until we get result on AVM. AVM is the best option right now folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Cool. So if we lynch you, you flip town, then we have both scum identified. Game over, town wins as long as we don't leave JVOR alive until the end... right? yeah but i think we need to go AVM first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 AVM visited Leelou. Willing to lynch him or Dan. Also Ape for aesthetic reasons obviously. Oh and my vest is gone. Vote: Dan Yet you vote Dan? LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWWombat Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 yeah thats nice but we need to go with your direct investigation not guesses. If AVM is scum your still not 100 % vetted BUT if AVM is town you die for sure tomorrow. The only way i can see you pushing a DAN lynch now is to get rid of our watcher and thats not happening until we get result on AVM. AVM is the best option right now folks. Seeing as Dan lied to try to get me lynched, it's not exactly a guess. But like I said, I'm down with either. unvote Vote: AVM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 yeah but i think we need to go AVM first I'm working out scenarios. Hang on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 yeah but i think we need to go AVM first Only not. As I said earlier, the scum between Dan/Wom has to lie sooner rather than later. It was looking pretty good he's the first choice between he and Dan. What's the downside to claiming I visited Leelou? He either gets lynched as he already was, or he gets me lynched and buys himself an extra day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Think of it this way: You lynch me: I'm town -- you know Wombat is scum/Dan town, and essentially know nothing else. I'm scum -- you know Dan is scum as well. If there's one more, it's JVoR. Game essentially over. You lynch Wom: Wom is town -- you know Dan and I are scum. Game over. Wom is scum -- you've already lynched scum in Wombat/can trust Dan as watcher, know nothing else essentially. Unless someone wants to tie me to anyone left in the game, or Wom to someone other than Dan, it's essentially a push. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWWombat Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 If you lynch me, then town has no way of tracking kills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted February 19, 2013 Author Share Posted February 19, 2013 Official Vote Count: Wombat (3) - Dan, Nolder, Hess AVM (2) - Smash, Wombat With 9 alive, it takes 5 roundhouse kicks to knock out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 If you lynch me, then town has no way of tracking kills. Scum fear mongering /ape'd But seriously though...town tracker wouldn't feel the need to say this, imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 btw -- vote: Wombat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Might get to do my first mod kill. Have to think about ramifications etc. Someone is having a meltdown. Pussy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Should have taken Crush with you. #1 -- he'd be able to decide what was the best. #2 -- they'd give you the cake for free to get him out of there Cake? Please? Yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Cool. So if we lynch you, you flip town, then we have both scum identified. Game over, town wins as long as we don't leave JVOR alive until the end... right? Yep. Just thinking out loud...9 left, if we lynch town and say JVOR and Scum both NK town only 6 players left, 3 town. We lynch scum...then 5 players left into night. If JVOR and Scum get two more NKs on town. Only 1 town, 1 scum and JVOR.... I love the SK role and always root for it but maybe we just lynch JVOR. It would leave 7 players left tomorrow with 2 scum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 If JiF stole the shot he would have been lynched today as clear scum as he agreed not to steal it. So worst case today, we would have been sitting with two dead town (same net dead town) but would of had two clear scum in JiF and the other of Dan or Wombat, if we had mis-lynched the prior day. Hey dumbass you were the one still talking about yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Think of it this way: You lynch me: I'm town -- you know Wombat is scum/Dan town, and essentially know nothing else. I'm scum -- you know Dan is scum as well. If there's one more, it's JVoR. Game essentially over. You lynch Wom: Wom is town -- you know Dan and I are scum. Game over. Wom is scum -- you've already lynched scum in Wombat/can trust Dan as watcher, know nothing else essentially. Unless someone wants to tie me to anyone left in the game, or Wom to someone other than Dan, it's essentially a push. Heres the deal AVM its not personal it just makes sense....... either DAN or WOM are a power role rather than take a chance at losing a power role we lynch you and let your death tell us which one of the so called power roles is lying. This way no matter how you flip our power role lives another day no matter how trivial that might be at this point its the only move that makes sense. You should be fine with this scenario as a townie. APE you can run the numbers all you want they always come up the same with the three players currently involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 so basically we have to lynch scum today or this is going down to the wire. LOL, good game Pac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted February 19, 2013 Author Share Posted February 19, 2013 Official Vote Count: Wombat (4) - Dan, Nolder, Hess, AVM AVM (2) - Smash, Wombat With 9 alive, it takes 5 roundhouse kicks to knock out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 If Wom is town we know AVM and Dan are scum. So if JVOR is the "vig" he shoots one of them. If not he's SK. If Wom is scum, we only have one to go. JVOR should still not shoot tonight...if he were the "vig". Or we should at least vote to for his kill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Heres the deal AVM its not personal it just makes sense....... either DAN or WOM are a power role rather than take a chance at losing a power role we lynch you and let your death tell us which one of the so called power roles is lying. This way no matter how you flip our power role lives another day no matter how trivial that might be at this point its the only move that makes sense. You should be fine with this scenario as a townie. APE you can run the numbers all you want they always come up the same with the three players currently involved. Considering they would have gotten the extra lynch they supposedly need, no. They'll kill Dan tonight and Wom gets lynched tomorrow. You'll still have no power role to watcher/tracker potential targets/killers. I follow what you're saying, but town will not have a power role tomorrow and you've got to see that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Here's what I came up with. The are other scenarios, but I can't sit and do them all. ------ Lynch AVM first, he is scum, and Wombat town: lynch avm/scum = 6 / 1 / 1 nk town, sk town = 4 / 1 / 1 lynch dan/scum = 4 / 0 / 1 nk town, sk town = 2 / 0 / 1 lynch sk = 2 / 0 town wins Lynch AVM first, he is scum, and Wombat is scum (BUS): lynch avm/scum = 5 / 2 / 1 nk town, sk dan/town = 3 / 1 / 1 lynch wombat/scum = 3 / 0 / 1 sk town = 2 / 0 / 1 lynch jvor/sk = 2 / 0 / 0 town wins Lynch AVM first, he is town, and Wombat is scum: lynch avm/town = 5 / 2 / 1 nk town, sk wombat/scum = 4 / 1 / 1 lynch jvor = 4 / 1 / 0 nk town = 3 / 1 / 0 lynch town = 2 / 1 / 0 (worst case) nk town = 1 / 1 scum wins ------ Lynch Dan first, she is scum, and Wombat town: lynch dan/scum = 6 / 1 / 1 nk town, sk town = 4 / 1 / 1 (if JVOR is vig, he'll shoot AVM and that's game) lynch avm/scum = 4 / 0 / 1 nk town, sk town = 2 / 0 / 1 lynch sk = 2 / 0 town wins Lynch Dan first, she is town, and Wombat is scum: lynch dan/town = 5 / 2 / 1 nk town, sk wombat/scum = 4 / 1 / 1 lynch jvor = 4 / 1 / 0 nk town = 3 / 1 / 0 lynch town = 2 / 1 / 0 (worst case) nk town = 1 / 1 scum wins ------ Lynch Wombat first, he is scum: lynch wombt/scum = 6 / 1 / 1 nk town, sk town = 4 / 1 / 1 lynch town = 3 / 1 / 1 (worst case) nk town, sk town = 1 / 1 / 1 lylo for town Lynch Wombat first, he is town: lynch wombat/town = 5 / 2 / 1 nk town, sk dan/scum = 4 / 1 / 1 lynch avm/scum = 4 / 0 / 1 sk town = 3 / 0 / 1 lynch jvor/sk = 3 / 0 / 0 town wins same if JVOR shoots town next: lynch wombat/town = 5 / 2 / 1 nk town, sk town = 3 / 2 / 1 lynch avm/scum = 3 / 1 / 1 nk town, sk town = 1 / 1 / 1 lylo for town Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted February 19, 2013 Author Share Posted February 19, 2013 Here's what I came up with. The are other scenarios, but I can't sit and do them all. ------ Lynch AVM first, he is scum, and Wombat town: lynch avm/scum = 6 / 1 / 1 nk town, sk town = 4 / 1 / 1 lynch dan/scum = 4 / 0 / 1 nk town, sk town = 2 / 0 / 1 lynch sk = 2 / 0 town wins Lynch AVM first, he is scum, and Wombat is scum (BUS): lynch avm/scum = 5 / 2 / 1 nk town, sk dan/town = 3 / 1 / 1 lynch wombat/scum = 3 / 0 / 1 sk town = 2 / 0 / 1 lynch jvor/sk = 2 / 0 / 0 town wins Lynch AVM first, he is town, and Wombat is scum: lynch avm/town = 5 / 2 / 1 nk town, sk wombat/scum = 4 / 1 / 1 lynch jvor = 4 / 1 / 0 nk town = 3 / 1 / 0 lynch town = 2 / 1 / 0 (worst case) nk town = 1 / 1 scum wins ------ Lynch Dan first, she is scum, and Wombat town: lynch dan/scum = 6 / 1 / 1 nk town, sk town = 4 / 1 / 1 (if JVOR is vig, he'll shoot AVM and that's game) lynch avm/scum = 4 / 0 / 1 nk town, sk town = 2 / 0 / 1 lynch sk = 2 / 0 town wins Lynch Dan first, she is town, and Wombat is scum: lynch dan/town = 5 / 2 / 1 nk town, sk wombat/scum = 4 / 1 / 1 lynch jvor = 4 / 1 / 0 nk town = 3 / 1 / 0 lynch town = 2 / 1 / 0 (worst case) nk town = 1 / 1 scum wins ------ Lynch Wombat first, he is scum: lynch wombt/scum = 6 / 1 / 1 nk town, sk town = 4 / 1 / 1 lynch town = 3 / 1 / 1 (worst case) nk town, sk town = 1 / 1 / 1 lylo for town Lynch Wombat first, he is town: lynch wombat/town = 5 / 2 / 1 nk town, sk dan/scum = 4 / 1 / 1 lynch avm/scum = 4 / 0 / 1 sk town = 3 / 0 / 1 lynch jvor/sk = 3 / 0 / 0 town wins same if JVOR shoots town next: lynch wombat/town = 5 / 2 / 1 nk town, sk town = 3 / 2 / 1 lynch avm/scum = 3 / 1 / 1 nk town, sk town = 1 / 1 / 1 lylo for town I'm the mod and I don't know what any of this means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 so basically we have to lynch scum today or this is going down to the wire. LOL, good game Pac. We lynch 3/4 of scum during the days, and we barely have room for a mistake. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Yep. Just thinking out loud...9 left, if we lynch town and say JVOR and Scum both NK town only 6 players left, 3 town. We lynch scum...then 5 players left into night. If JVOR and Scum get two more NKs on town. Only 1 town, 1 scum and JVOR.... I love the SK role and always root for it but maybe we just lynch JVOR. It would leave 7 players left tomorrow with 2 scum. lynch jvor = 6 / 2 / 0 nk town = 5 / 2 / 0 lynch wombat/town = 4 / 2 / 0 nk town = 3 / 2 / 0 lynch dan/scum = 3 / 1 / 0 nk town = 2 / 1 / 0 lynch avm/scum = 2 / 0 / 0 town wins If we lynch JVOR now, and wombat next EVEN if he flips town, we win. lynch jvor = 6 / 2 / 0 nk town = 5 / 2 / 0 lynch wombat/scum = 4 / 1 / 0 nk town = 3 / 1 / 0 lynch town = 2 / 1 / 0 (worst case) nk town = 1 / 1 / 0 scum wins If we lynch JVOR and wombat ends up being scum, we would still have to mis-lynch twice (edit: once) after that to lose. My premise the other day was correct, the extra kill is a problem. We should have just killed JVOR instead of JIF though, LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 I'm the mod and I don't know what any of this means. Obviously it's altered binary with all the numbers, mostly 0's and 1's. Ape is obviously symp, hinting that he is like CTM and trying to betray the town. Ape is the final scum unvote vote Ape AwesomeVM ftmfw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Based on my last post, Unvote Vote JVOR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 And yes, that was a joke...don't flip **** Ape Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Think of it this way: You lynch me: I'm town -- you know Wombat is scum/Dan town, and essentially know nothing else. I'm scum -- you know Dan is scum as well. If there's one more, it's JVoR. Game essentially over. Untrue, wombat could be busing you. You lynch Wom: Wom is town -- you know Dan and I are scum. Game over. Wom is scum -- you've already lynched scum in Wombat/can trust Dan as watcher, know nothing else essentially. Unless someone wants to tie me to anyone left in the game, or Wom to someone other than Dan, it's essentially a push. I responded inline, but the assumption that if you are scum = Dan is scum is short-sighted, and feels like you are pushing a bus agenda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Cake? Please? Yes? Seriously, you are making me not want to play this game with you again. Non-contributing pig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Based on my last post, Unvote Vote JVOR Are you out of your ******* mind ? no way in hell we do this now. AVM is the way to go here . If AVM is scum Dan Dies If AVM is town Wombat dies Keep in mind if Dan is town she still might have some protection and live through the night. Please stop this silly nonsense and vote AVM please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWWombat Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 lynch jvor = 6 / 2 / 0 nk town = 5 / 2 / 0 lynch wombat/town = 4 / 2 / 0 nk town = 3 / 2 / 0 lynch dan/scum = 3 / 1 / 0 nk town = 2 / 1 / 0 lynch avm/scum = 2 / 0 / 0 town wins If we lynch JVOR now, and wombat next EVEN if he flips town, we win. lynch jvor = 6 / 2 / 0 nk town = 5 / 2 / 0 lynch wombat/scum = 5 / 1 / 0 nk town = 4 / 1 / 0 lynch town = 3 / 1 / 0 (worst case) nk town = 2 / 1 / 0 lynch town = 1 / 1 / 0 (worst case) scum wins If we lynch JVOR and wombat ends up being scum, we would still have to mis-lynch twice after that to lose. My premise the other day was correct, the extra kill is a problem. We should have just killed JVOR instead of JIF though, LOL. If you lynch JVoR and he's actually the vig, wouldn't that make it 5 townies, not 6? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWWombat Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 I also don't get how it's better for town that I flip town than that I flip scum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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