NCJETSFAN Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 This was just reported Jets still haven't offered extensions to any of the at least half-dozen asst. coaches on staff, and they're now free to talk to other teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eboozer Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 WR coach, DB coach, ST coach AND Player Development Coordinator. One article I read (ESPN I think) mentioned the Jets as the healthiest team in the league. Shout out to the strength and conditioning coach. Considering how often the Jet "D" was on the field this season, I'm glad we had no significant injuries.... especially on the D line. Sheldon is an animal. To be a rookie and come in and make that kind of impact and blasting through the "Rookie Wall" (about 12 games) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 This was just reported Jets still haven't offered extensions to any of the at least half-dozen asst. coaches on staff, and they're now free to talk to other teams. marty is under contract though,,right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eboozer Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 marty is under contract though,,right? I believe he got a 2 yr. contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowmoe57 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 This was just reported Jets still haven't offered extensions to any of the at least half-dozen asst. coaches on staff, and they're now free to talk to other teams. Schefter of Facebook is actually a pretty good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eboozer Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Maty's under contract, thank heavens! In a December 27 article, The Great Cimini indicated the following coaches were going to be free agents: Soon-to-be free agents include Mike Devlin (offensive line), Karl Dunbar (defensive line), Ben Kotwica (special-teams coordinator), Sanjay Lal (wide receivers), Anthony Lynn (assistant head coach/running backs) and Dennis Thurman (defensive coordinator), sources said. It is not clear whether any of these guys actually will be retained, but one would think the Jets would have been more proactive if they had intentions to keep them. Devlin's and Kotwica's units did little to impress in their first year at a new job. Lal might be happy to move on considering what the Jets gave him to work with. Dunbar would be a loss. Thurman would also be an interesting departure. He has been a key part of Rex Ryan's game-planning since the Baltimore days. After losing Mike Pettine a year ago, it would be the second straight season a part of the Rex defensive brain trust left Florham Park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 He's my coach...kinda! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonehands Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 These guys are unsigned because you aren't going to extend them for longer than the Head Coach's contract. Once Rex's extension is done, these guys will be signed. They probably have verbal promises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 idzik is letting them fire themselves so what does he do with the guys who stay ? I like dubar, hope he stays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 These guys are unsigned because you aren't going to extend them for longer than the Head Coach's contract. Once Rex's extension is done, these guys will be signed. They probably have verbal promises. real offer >>>>>> promise it would be colossally stupid to let them get to the point where you bring in competition from other jobs. how complex could rex's extension be ? why isn't it done ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eboozer Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 I like dubar, hope he stays Those DLinemen love coach Dunbar! They'd be crazy to let him go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCJETSFAN Posted January 11, 2014 Author Share Posted January 11, 2014 Those DLinemen love coach Dunbar! They'd be crazy to let him go. He's basicly a free agent ! And they are always looking to a long contract so if gruden calls and says he will give him 3 years he prob will go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Dunbar definitely needs to be brought back. Could see arguments for Devlin and Lynn as well, but also wouldn't see a problem with going in a new direction for either. Thurman should only be considered IF they think he can actually be a real DC as opposed to... whatever he was this year. Lal absolutely needs to be gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eboozer Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 He's basicly a free agent ! And they are always looking to a long contract so if gruden calls and says he will give him 3 years he prob will go If you're Dunbar, who would you rather coach? Mo, Snacks, Sheldon, Coples, Ellis...with $50 mil cap space and 12 picks, OR a Redskin unit losing Orakpo, no 1st round pick, in cap hell, with an owner like Snyder? Contracts being somewhat equal, I think he stays with a Defensive minded coach in Rex and 3 potential All-Pros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 if any of these guys can get a promotion with another team, Rex isn't gonna stand in their way. Otherwise yeah its probably all depending on Rex's deal getting done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 if any of these guys can get a promotion with another team, Rex isn't gonna stand in their way. Otherwise yeah its probably all depending on Rex's deal getting done. that's a 5 step process between two parties that have daily contact. what could be taking so long ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eboozer Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 that's a 5 step process between two parties that have daily contact. what could be taking so long ? $$$$ X #/yrs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 It's quite possible that Rex doesn't get an extension this year. That he doesn't want to sign a one year deal, and that the front office isn't ready to give him more than that. If he's just going to coach out his remaining deal, that's probably a complication in getting these assistants done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 I think there is a good chance management will be pushing for hiring a more legit DC than Thurman, putting Rex in a better position to act as more of a HC. This alone is a good reason for not immediately re-signing anyone (even Dunbar) on that side of the ball. On the offensive side, did MM inherit the staff or hire them himself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 One article I read (ESPN I think) mentioned the Jets as the healthiest team in the league. Shout out to the strength and conditioning coach. Considering how often the Jet "D" was on the field this season, I'm glad we had no significant injuries.... especially on the D line. This has been true for the better part of a decade, which means it probably has more to do with the training staff than the S&C guys. Goes without saying that we need to pay whatever it takes to keep Dunbar. None of the rest would be a particularly big loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCJETSFAN Posted January 11, 2014 Author Share Posted January 11, 2014 If you're Dunbar, who would you rather coach? Mo, Snacks, Sheldon, Coples, Ellis...with $50 mil cap space and 12 picks, OR a Redskin unit losing Orakpo, no 1st round pick, in cap hell, with an owner like Snyder? Contracts being somewhat equal, I think he stays with a Defensive minded coach in Rex and 3 potential All-Pros. Well if ur head coach is on a 1 year extension and u can get more years from someone else. U leave . It's not about who ur coaching for assistants it's about guarantee money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eboozer Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Well if ur head coach is on a 1 year extension and u can get more years from someone else. U leave . It's not about who ur coaching for assistants it's about guarantee money Contracts being somewhat equal, I think he stays with a Defensive minded coach in Rex and 3 potential All-Pros. I don't think you read everything I wrote. If someone else is offering more years and more guaranteed $ of course he takes it. I'm saying he would stay with the Jets over Wash. if $ was close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCJETSFAN Posted January 11, 2014 Author Share Posted January 11, 2014 Contracts being somewhat equal, I think he stays with a Defensive minded coach in Rex and 3 potential All-Pros. I don't think you read everything I wrote. If someone else is offering more years and more guaranteed $ of course he takes it. I'm saying he would stay with the Jets over Wash. if $ was close. Well of course but the jets prob a Only want 1 ur deals with most Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eboozer Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Well of course but the jets prob a Only want 1 ur deals with most Sheldon, Mo and Snacks LOVE Dunbar. Why have them start over with a new line coach when they had a very successful yr? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Sheldon, Mo and Snacks LOVE Dunbar. Why have them start over with a new line coach when they had a very successful yr? Because you don't want to stick your next head coach with a position coach he may not want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eboozer Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Because you don't want to stick your next head coach with a position coach he may not want? Maybe? I think they'd be crazy not trying to keep him. Has there been any word on Rex's contract? Are they holding him to his contract or doing an extension? The very picture of a lame duck coach. How do you upgrade your assistants if your coach is in this situation? No one will want to come here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Maybe? I think they'd be crazy not trying to keep him. Has there been any word on Rex's contract? Are they holding him to his contract or doing an extension? The very picture of a lame duck coach. How do you upgrade your assistants if your coach is in this situation? No one will want to come here. Tis a mystery, and a mess right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eboozer Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Tis a mystery, and a mess right now. Agreed. Unfortunate, because they finished the season so strong. I hope this all gets worked out this week so we don't have to be talking about this for the next 4 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 $$$$ X #/yrs. step 1 - friendly openers, basic framework step 2 - initial offer from jets step 3 - counter offer from rex's agent step 4 - revised offer from jets step 5 - iron out the wording with two parties that are currently contractually bound to each other, with no possible outside influences or bidding, this is a 3 day process Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eboozer Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 step 1 - friendly openers, basic framework step 2 - initial offer from jets step 3 - counter offer from rex's agent step 4 - revised offer from jets step 5 - iron out the wording with two parties that are currently contractually bound to each other, with no possible outside influences or bidding, this is a 3 day process Hopefully, like players, "Coaches Love Playing for Rex" and Dunbar sticks around for a couple of years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Hopefully, like players, "Coaches Love Playing for Rex" and Dunbar sticks around for a couple of years. agreed, dunbar needs to stay. it's really strange. things are quiet. its like when a few 7 year olds are playing in the other room and its quiet. that's when you go check on them, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 It's quite possible that Rex doesn't get an extension this year. That he doesn't want to sign a one year deal, and that the front office isn't ready to give him more than that. If he's just going to coach out his remaining deal, that's probably a complication in getting these assistants done. Bingo! That's exactly it. In answer to Larz question "how complex could Rex's extension be ?" This is a very complex situation. They are probably offering Rex a one year extension. I'm sure he wants 2-3 year extension. If you live outside NY you hear on, in my case, So Florida talk radio, what an outstanding job Rex did, wish he was here. Rex's agent is aware of this. Rex has complete confidence in himself. The Jets have, as we all know, 40-50 million in cap space, and 12 draft picks, If Smith doesn't sh*t the bed again, the Jets have a very high likelihood of going to the playoffs. If Rex is a lame duck when this happens his price goes way up, with a lot of competition to sign him. Now fast forward to Dunbar. He is one of the best DL coaches in the NFL. Anyone who doesn't think he is a major part of the development of a player like Richardson, I believe you are mistaken. Why should Dunbar except a one year contract when I'm sure other teams are willing to offer him a 3-5 year contract. He might bolt. That would be a very stupid move by the Jets. The solution is simple. Give Rex his 2-3 year extension. If the Jets don't make the play offs, fire him and eat the 3-7 million. Chump change in a 1,000,000,000 + dollar investment. With the talent of this DL Dunbar will accept the 2-3 year extension over a 3-5 year deal with a team that just fired their HC because they suck. This DL could be the spring that launches him to a HC job in a year or two. That's every coaches goal. At worst it might lead to DC's job. To leave a coach like Dunbar in limbo while they haggle over a few million dollars with Rex, is very SOJ FO like. If they want to get this team out of the crap hole, give both Rex and Dunbar their extensions. To lose Dunbar is stupid. This might be one of the first decisions to determine if Idzik is a good winning GM, or a bean counter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Because you don't want to stick your next head coach with a position coach he may not want? Lol. Idzik named Rex his coach next season totally planning to replace him in 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eboozer Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Bingo! That's exactly it. In answer to Larz question "how complex could Rex's extension be ?" This is a very complex situation. They are probably offering Rex a one year extension. I'm sure he wants 2-3 year extension. If you live outside NY you hear on, in my case, So Florida talk radio, what an outstanding job Rex did, wish he was here. Rex's agent is aware of this. Rex has complete confidence in himself. The Jets have, as we all know, 40-50 million in cap space, and 12 draft picks, If Smith doesn't sh*t the bed again, the Jets have a very high likelihood of going to the playoffs. If Rex is a lame duck when this happens his price goes way up, with a lot of competition to sign him. Now fast forward to Dunbar. He is one of the best DL coaches in the NFL. Anyone who doesn't think he is a major part of the development of a player like Richardson, I believe you are mistaken. Why should Dunbar except a one year contract when I'm sure other teams are willing to offer him a 3-5 year contract. He might bolt. That would be a very stupid move by the Jets. The solution is simple. Give Rex his 2-3 year extension. If the Jets don't make the play offs, fire him and eat the 3-7 million. Chump change in a 1,000,000,000 + dollar investment. With the talent of this DL Dunbar will accept the 2-3 year extension over a 3-5 year deal with a team that just fired their HC because they suck. This DL could be the spring that launches him to a HC job in a year or two. That's every coaches goal. At worst it might lead to DC's job. To leave a coach like Dunbar in limbo while they haggle over a few million dollars with Rex, is very SOJ FO like. If they want to get this team out of the crap hole, give both Rex and Dunbar their extensions. To lose Dunbar is stupid. This might be one of the first decisions to determine if Idzik is a good winning GM, or a bean counter. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Now fast forward to Dunbar. He is one of the best DL coaches in the NFL. Anyone who doesn't think he is a major part of the development of a player like Richardson, I believe you are mistaken. Why should Dunbar except a one year contract when I'm sure other teams are willing to offer him a 3-5 year contract. He might bolt. That would be a very stupid move by the Jets. If Dunbar likes working with Rex, and likes working with the talent he has with the Jets, and has confidence in himself, there's no reason not for him to accept a one year extension. He'll be in the same boat as Rex next year, and if the front office brings in talent, it'll be a good boat to be in. The team, defense, and DL should all have a good year. Either they'll make their money with the Jets in 2015, or they'll make it somewhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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